ccazza wrote: » The circular for Post Primary schools has finally been published. https://www.education.ie/en/Circulars-and-Forms/Active-Circulars/cl0003_2018.pdfNot much of an alleviation.
Icsics wrote: » It's not so much the alleviation thats interesting but the content of this circular & what will be in these posts. It's as if the JMB wrote the circular....!
Merrick Prickly User wrote: » God I dread the cutthroat backstabbing crap we will have to endure over the coming weeks. There won't be enough posts to cover all the people doing year head, TY coordinator, SEN coordinator etc unpaid in my school. And all but a handful have a Masters in management and leadership. It's going to be toxic.
MrJones1973 wrote: » Then perhaps its best to sit back and assume you will get nothing. Make your money elsewhere. If you get it great but no point building a mental torture chamber for yourself.
Merrick Prickly User wrote: » I will be resigning my position and leaving teaching at the end of this year. I'm not interested in posts. It won't stop the escalation in people walking all over each other to get ahead before I leave though. It's not only those involved in the competition who have to put up with the fallout!
thefasteriwalk wrote: » Can I ask why? Are you just fed up? Sadly, I see myself taking this decision in the next few years too.
spurious wrote: » 1300 posts is roughly 2 per school. I know in my old school it would barely refill a third of the posts lost through retirement etc.. The spin is strong on this one.
Merrick Prickly User wrote: » Mostly for financial reasons. But also because I feel trapped in a school where I don't see any prospects for myself. And if I have to take a risk on starting from scratch in order to move on, then I feel I might as well give something with better financial potential a shot. I suppose I can always do some subbing if I have to anyway. But I just don't think teaching offers a sufficient standard of living in the Dublin area unless you can rely on a partner or family.
liverpool lad wrote: » How are schools dividing out the new POR's in your school? Are you having meetings or are there SIP posts being created?
ASISEEIT wrote: » Schools have become all about PR and therapy. Its all about obesity week or literacy week Its all about dealing with the latest buzz whether its transgender or about helping kids do what they have done for a millennium ie begin first year. Its all PR In the end has all this PR guff actually improved results? We all know ho chi quinn had his literacy bull-and lo and behold results improved before it had got off the ground (FACT) Why because kids doing the exam after Quinn took power were told to take the exam seriously this time. So scramble my darlings for these stipends. There is easier money elsewhere than selling your souls for the latest piece of PR Bottom line is the teacher who works outside the classroom ,as opposed to inside the classroom will triumph
ASISEEIT wrote: We need year heads to deal with the significant issues. We also need guidance counsellors. However there is an unrealistic streak of social engineering going on in dept of education. At present we have to teach kids how to eat ,avoid drugs and have safe sex. Im sure others could add ti the list. All of this assumes you as a teacher have it all together. I.e you are a paragon of virtue All of this assumes kids will listen and ignore the messages they get outside of school. One wonders what the hell their parents teach them. What society teaches them. A lot of the plans drawn up in schools are booker prize entries and not worth the ink they are printed on. It would be better if posts were designed to support academic achievement rather than more dubious social engineering or PR weeks. Has there ever been any evaluation of these weeks ? Nada
Wanderer78 wrote: » There's a lot more to life than 'academic achievements', kids require support and guidance in life, amongst other things, including academic guidance, but not exclusively. There's too much academia in the world of academia, it's also important to note, some kids are simply not designed for it, and that's ok to, society still requires them, but an educational system that's heavily weighted towards the world of academia, can and does pose a problem for these individuals. We should be creating a system that includes rather than excludes, society requires all to function better, excluding creates dysfunction in society, inclusion reduces dysfunction. Many parents are in fact highly stressed due to the failures of modern society, including the need for both to work full time etc, our educational system addresses these issues badly, and in some cases not at all, and we wonder why complex social issues occur, and indeed why complex problems such as mental health issues are increasing!
judeboy101 wrote: » What's the union stance on existing posts being converted to these new ones. My reading of it is that if you have been hired as a year head, then under the new circular your post can be taken from you and you could end up for example as IT, haven't never turned on a computer in your life. I know that in extremis but nothing in circular says that it can't happen as all posts are now competency based not skill based.
TheDriver wrote: » judeboy101 wrote: » What's the union stance on existing posts being converted to these new ones. My reading of it is that if you have been hired as a year head, then under the new circular your post can be taken from you and you could end up for example as IT, haven't never turned on a computer in your life. I know that in extremis but nothing in circular says that it can't happen as all posts are now competency based not skill based. A school review of posts has always been an option and goes on in most schools.
