Simpla wrote: » What do ye think of the sexual harrasment stories in the media. Mainly from men against women? Any thoughts?
Bijan Ebrahimi: An innocent man thrown to the mob Bijan Ebrahimi was beaten unconscious, dragged from his home and his body set alight. How could this happen on a British street?
When he attempted to take photographs of youngsters destroying the flowers in his pots and hanging baskets to show the police he was branded a paedophile. He turned to the police for help and phoned them on July 11. But instead Mr Ebrahimi was arrested on suspicion of a breach of the peace in front of a mob of around 20 children and adults who screamed “paedo, paedo” as he was led away. He was released without charge the next day. But rumours continued to circulate and two days later some of his neighbours came for him. Last month, a spokesman for Avon and Somerset police reiterated Mr Ebrahimi’s innocence: “We can categorically state he had not taken any indecent images and that nothing of concern had been found on his computer.”
Over the past few months there have been numerous vigilante-style incidents in Britain, where anonymous online “hunters” attempt to name and shame suspected paedophiles regardless of concrete evidence. Some groups active in the Midlands – where suspects are confronted on camera and the films then posted on the internet – have led to a handful of convictions. Other innocent people, though, have reported having their lives destroyed and being hounded out of communities due to false claims. Earlier this year, a 29-year-old engineer, Gary Cleary, hanged himself days after being confronted in public in Leicester by a now disbanded group called Letzgohunting for supposedly grooming a child over the internet. He had not been charged with any offence.
iptba wrote: » I wasn't sure which thread to post this on. I think men are at increased risk of a false accusation of being a paedophile.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10420713/Bijan-Ebrahimi-An-innocent-man-thrown-to-the-mob.html --- --- Also in Irish Examiner today: http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/report-finds-man-murdered-after-wrongful-paedophilia-accusation-failed-by-british-police-and-council-819224.html
iptba wrote: » https://twitter.com/HSE_HR/status/949674621426651136 Doubt the HSE/the account would encourage males to "remember to support each other and 'press for progress'".
citytillidie wrote: » Well well the met police in big troublehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42431171 Basically 2 rape cases have collapse in a week because the police did not had over evidence that would have proved both guys innocent. I wonder how many more there is
iptba wrote: » "The ‘Illuminate Herstory’ initiative began in Ireland as an annual light festival designed to celebrate females from all over the world. In pursuit of Ogilvy’s commitment to gender equality, we are shining a light on female figures."
A woman tricked me to become pregnant and I am devastated It’s been one of the most terrible situations, I almost ended my life because of it
iptba wrote: » From today's Irish Times:https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/a-woman-tricked-me-to-become-pregnant-and-i-am-devastated-1.3348395
Calhoun wrote: » Well lets be fair, the guy in this story was very reckless one for believing her but then two from the perspective of his own health. He was tricked on one level but there is an element of personal responsibility that he is leaving out. Like what kind of sex ed are they teaching in school these days, even being on the pill isnt 100%.
It is obvious this woman just wanted a baby with someone and didnt really want the help in raising said baby. Hypothetically had she done what she did and was looking to be supported that would be a different situation altogether.
silverharp wrote: » I know it must be rare enough but we only know about this case cos she contacted him after, how often might it happen when they don't?
Wibbs wrote: » Yeah he comes across as a whiney little manboy to me. "traumatic" "devastated" "almost ended my life" wah! wah!. Sack up man FFS. Jesus.
seamus wrote: » And then we ask ourselves why men have difficulty opening up and seeking help when they're in trouble :rolleyes:
For someone I ordinarily respect, your response is no less than, "If she didn't want a baby, she could have kept her legs closed. She made her bed, now she can lie in it and stop whining". Very disappointing.
The man feels genuine reverence for the reproductive process, takes his part in it and obligations seriously, and your response is to tell him to "sack up".
Men to miss out on €40 per week after Doherty's pensions 'fix'
Wibbs wrote: » I understand where you're coming from S, but TBH I'm kinda sick to the molars with the near constant tinnitus of usually self inflicted victimhood we're exposed to on a daily basis. You see, again this boils down to choices and he made them. Total stranger(older woman apparently, though why that's in play. Probably mid 30's woman. They've got baby brain y'know) comes on strong looking for sex. Doesn't want kids? He made the choice to have sex with a complete stranger. Doesn't want kids? He made the choice to not wear a condom. Doesn't want kids? He made the choice to believe a total stranger he just met and go in bareback. Sex makes babies. That's a risk(among others). Adults make choices to reduce that risk(and others). This is not the pill failed/condom broke scenario. it's also a little different regarding the reversal of the genders. It would be a better comparison if a woman met a stranger one night who came on strong looking for sex, a stranger who told her he had a vasectomy and she believed this total stranger and had sex with him without protection. Making those choices along the way. Sure you'd have some sympathy, but I would also I'd see them as at best naive, at most bloody stupid. I would still see the perps as being utter ****. No debate there. "genuine reverence"? His last relationship broke up because of his "commitment issues", likely because - and it is his right - that he didn't want kids with her. If he felt that strongly he would have wrapped up when having sex with a complete stranger. He chose not to. It wasn't a virgin birth. The woman was majorly in the wrong, but he bears some responsibility and as is the fashion he's looking to shirk that by pulling the victim angle. And no doubt the support and counselling will back that angle up. Again all to common these days. Rather than saying "look she was a wagon, but yes you screwed up and that's OK. We all do, but you can and will own it and move on from that and then you can deal with whatever the realities of this bring down the line. Here's how to help deal with them..." That's an active response and plan of action, rather than the passive "it's someone else's fault, you're the victim". Which would you prefer? I'd bet a fair chunk of change that you of all folks wouldn't go the victim route.
Ryann Bald Wage wrote: » You choose to expose yourself to people's personal problems though. It's easy not to read agony aunt columns or whatever else you're consuming.
Guy in article sounds like he was distressed by his own father's absenteeism, and is troubled to find somehow he's become an absentee father himself. Natural to feel a need to look after his own kid. Natural to feel deeply troubled at being blocked from them.
Reducing that to 'His genes get to go on and he doesn't have to lift a finger' is bizarre. His genes will go on anyway, he shares them with loads of other people.
She said that "in the old days" women would "slap down" men who assaulted or harassed them, explaining: "In the old days, there were movies - the Carry On comedies, for example - which always had a man leering after women. And the women always outwitted him - he was a fool. "We weren't afraid of him and we weren't afraid to slap him down. "If you spread your legs because he said 'be nice to me and I'll give you a job in a movie' then I'm afraid that's tantamount to consent, and it's too late now to start whingeing about that," said the feminist writer.
py2006 wrote: She claims that women have 'spread their legs ' for a role in a Weinstein movie.
py2006 wrote: Not sure if this is about men's rights or sexism against men but refreshing all the same
py2006 wrote: » Not sure if this is about men's rights or sexism against men but refreshing all the same She claims that women have 'spread their legs ' for a role in a Weinstein movie.https://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/feminist-germaine-greer-takes-aim-at-whingeing-metoo-campaign-36528552.html
Calhoun wrote: » Metoo campaign fundamentally is very dangerous, it is refreshing to hear female actress explain a bit of the quid pro quo that goes on in Hollywood but there was definitely abuse and coercion.
Calhoun wrote: » True that if it was a quid pro quo position then its not so bad, if he coerced women though there is a distinction and that fundamentally is wrong. However the line on this one is razor tight.
py2006 wrote: However, I don't believe he raped and or abused EVERY woman who wanted to become an 'actress' or be part of his success. I believe plenty of women were more than willing to play the game to get a role and earn some big money. Kinda using each other.
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