Wibbs wrote: » Nope and I never said it was just the newcomers. It's people, on both sides. Colour, religion doesn't matter. They only signify to others differences. We only have to look north on our own island and the history of Ireland in general. All "white", basically the same religion and pretty much similar cultures, but different enough to have caused centuries of strife and death. The Troubles which lasted for what thirty years, had a death toll of 3000 men women and kids, on top of the general nastiness. Outside of ex colonies Multculturalism does not work(and it's not exactly roses within them). I'm still waiting for the pro "diversity" side to a) give me examples of where it has worked and b) what makes them think it'll work here? On the latter a few like yourself have noted that it's not the fault of people coming in and that "locals" have difficulty adjusting and I agree. So again why jump to copy every single other example where problems have arisen? Not when we have the opportunity to nip it in the bud before a generation on we're looking at the same crap as other European nations. It makes zero bloody sense to me. And no, "because diversity" isn't an answer.
"Odhinn wrote: » The problems are often exaggerated. America works, flawed as it is, as does Britain, the Netherlands and so on. .
Striving for ethnic homogenity is both pointless and doomed to fail
Wibbs wrote: » Now you really must be having a laugh... Those examples all prove my point not yours. Maybe you want ghettos marginalisation civil unrest and armed police on the streets of Ireland. .
Wibbs wrote: » says you. The Japanese have largely managed it. We managed until recently. And I don't see why it's pointless. Unless you're Into white/Irish self flagellation. .
Odhinn wrote: » We already had that. By stereotyping and so on. You've learned little from it by the looks of things.
Truly, truly pathetic.
We "managed" largely because there was fuck all to come here for.
Wibbs wrote: » Yep there's the sniff of Irish self loathing I expected alright. It's almost a given trait of pro multicultural folks.
Wibbs wrote: » the only place we had that on this island was where two cultures clashed.......
weldoninhio wrote: » Lusk almost got a dose of multiculturalism last night. Thankfully the Gardai were tipped off and stopped a gang of 40 or so youths from getting to the town. I wonder if the Gardai were being racist or if they knew the gang.
Odhinn wrote: » Dignifying any discussion with your lot with the term "debate" isn't something I'd do.
Odhinn wrote: » Jesus yeah, theres no stereotyping in this state based on accent, area or anything else.
Wibbs wrote: » My "lot" eh? And what "lot" is that, pray tell? Do please enlighten us.
Odhinn wrote: » Well, you're the one wanting to keep a ethnically homogenous state. Classify thyself.
As for rebuttals, you aren't worth that much of my time, as the more intellectual pretension some things dress up in, the less funny they are.
Bubbaclaus wrote: » What?
Odhinn wrote: » multiculturalism was less likely to work in ex colonies, as one group were placed above another - indians/pakistanis in Uganda for instance. The problems are often exaggerated. America works, flawed as it is, as does Britain, the Netherlands and so on. Striving for ethnic homogenity is both pointless and doomed to fail.
The Fake Sheikh wrote: » Supposedly a huge gang of black teens were escorted back on to a train to Balbriggan from Lusk by Gardaí after causing trouble. I don’t know if that’s a fact but that’s what I’m hearing locally. There’s video of it that I’m sure will surface eventually.
Sand wrote: » Ethnic homogeneity being largely maintained for several hundred years if not several thousand, predating the state. You apparently want to end it in the space of 50-100 years. You have no idea what will replace it and all the warning signs are flashing red and amber. Yours is the more radical and inexplicable proposal. I think the onus is on you to justify and explain why ethnic homogeneity should be ended. But 'your lot' never can and never will justify or explain yourselves.
Herb Powell wrote: » YEah, that's a complete myth.
Dr Brown wrote: » Things are heating up in Blanchardstown.https://www.thesun.ie/news/2048259/schoolboy-gangs-who-are-terrorising-west-dublin-locals-and-targeting-taxi-drivers-being-left-to-run-amok-by-gardai/
Sand wrote: » Yeah, its really not.
Herb Powell wrote: » In Ireland? Yes it is. Our history is a series of different ethnic groups settling on the island. There is nothing "pure" about us.
Bambi wrote: » Not really, People like to ****e on about waves of vikings normans and hugoenots etc but they never really settled in large numbers which is why we absorbed them and why we're still a fairly uniform group in terms of our DNA We've only really had one major ethnic settlement in our history, the plantations...and seeing how that worked out..
baylah17 wrote: » Wow The Irish Sun An impeccable source that would never exaggerate the facts in order to garner a headline A comic from the same publishing group as the now defunct News of the World , closed after its illegal activities came to light
