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Playstation 5 when?

jones

Sorry if there was a relevant thread for this but i couldnt find one so created this.

Folks just wondering when does everyone think the next Playstation will arrive? I think its a given that there will be one but the timing is what is interesting for me. I presume we won't see one in 2018 but 2019 should have something i assume.

Thoughts? and would people be interested in it?

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The Specialist

Retr0gamer wrote: »

If you own a gaming PC then it's a very limited console. I've been let down by a lot of the exclusives like Uncharted 4 and Last Guardian which I just didn't like. bloodborne is a classic and Yakuza series is great. Outside of Gravity Rush nothing else has excited me but I'm waiting for the new uncharted to bottom out in price.

The latest batch of exclusives isn't really interesting me either. Spiderman looks like a bad Batman clone and I don't like Batman, Detroit is David Cage so will be god awful, God of War look interesting but I'll wait for reviews and Days gone looks awful. TLOU2, as long as it isn't another misstep for naughty dog like U4 was then it should be good.

I'm hoping for an influx of Japanese exclusives to make the console more interesting but the majority seem to all come to PC these days.

Maybe you just aren't as much a fan of Western games as you are for Japanese titles? I only played 2 Jap games last year - Yakuza 0 which I absolutely loved, and The Last Guardian which was an absolute pile of **** with a hairy cat. Played the demo of Gravity Rush but it was utter ****e IMO, only lasted 20 mins before I deleted it again.

Spiderman looks like it could be a sleeper for GOTY (depending if it plays as good as it looks & RDR 2 slips to next year

). David Cage has had a couple of missteps (BTS being one of them) but the games are generally engrossing experiences - wouldn't call him god awful by any stretch and Detroit looks surprisingly decent. No interest in GOW or Days Gone so can't comment on those, TLOU 2 of course has big shoes to fill but it's in safe hands.

kunst nugget

s8n wrote: »

how was U4 a misstep ??

It's pretty bloated with endless jumping around cliff sections that are monotonous.

kunst nugget

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Doubt we will see it soon. The PS4 is keeping pace with the PS2 in sales so sony will want to ride that wave for as long as they can.

Honestly I don't want to see a PS5 any time soon. I feel the PS4 has been a total disappointment so far and hasn't really hit it's stride. I'm hoping it will recover in the next year or two and turn itself around like the PS3 did because as it stands, I feel the 400 euro I put down on the PS4 wasn't worth it yet and don't really want to put another 400 down on another console until the previous one has shown its worth.

Why do you buy the console at full price when they chances are you know you're going to be critical of it? Would you not just hold off until the price drops?

s8n

Retr0gamer wrote: »

If you own a gaming PC then it's a very limited console. I've been let down by a lot of the exclusives like Uncharted 4 and Last Guardian which I just didn't like. bloodborne is a classic and Yakuza series is great. Outside of Gravity Rush nothing else has excited me but I'm waiting for the new uncharted to bottom out in price.

The latest batch of exclusives isn't really interesting me either. Spiderman looks like a bad Batman clone and I don't like Batman, Detroit is David Cage so will be god awful, God of War look interesting but I'll wait for reviews and Days gone looks awful. TLOU2, as long as it isn't another misstep for naughty dog like U4 was then it should be good.

I'm hoping for an influx of Japanese exclusives to make the console more interesting but the majority seem to all come to PC these days.

how was U4 a misstep ??

Retr0gamer

If you own a gaming PC then it's a very limited console. I've been let down by a lot of the exclusives like Uncharted 4 and Last Guardian which I just didn't like. bloodborne is a classic and Yakuza series is great. Outside of Gravity Rush nothing else has excited me but I'm waiting for the new uncharted to bottom out in price.

The latest batch of exclusives isn't really interesting me either. Spiderman looks like a bad Batman clone and I don't like Batman, Detroit is David Cage so will be god awful, God of War look interesting but I'll wait for reviews and Days gone looks awful. TLOU2, as long as it isn't another misstep for naughty dog like U4 was then it should be good.

I'm hoping for an influx of Japanese exclusives to make the console more interesting but the majority seem to all come to PC these days.

kwestfan08

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Doubt we will see it soon. The PS4 is keeping pace with the PS2 in sales so sony will want to ride that wave for as long as they can.

Honestly I don't want to see a PS5 any time soon. I feel the PS4 has been a total disappointment so far and hasn't really hit it's stride. I'm hoping it will recover in the next year or two and turn itself around like the PS3 did because as it stands, I feel the 400 euro I put down on the PS4 wasn't worth it yet and don't really want to put another 400 down on another console until the previous one has shown its worth.

With the exclusives coming down the pipe in 2018/19 im very excited for the tail end of the PS4 era. God of War, Days Gone, Detriot: Become Human, Spiderman and TLOU 2 all have to come out in the next 18 months or so. Some quality titles there along with the previously released exculsives make the PS4 a great console in my opinion.

Retr0gamer

Doubt we will see it soon. The PS4 is keeping pace with the PS2 in sales so sony will want to ride that wave for as long as they can.

Honestly I don't want to see a PS5 any time soon. I feel the PS4 has been a total disappointment so far and hasn't really hit it's stride. I'm hoping it will recover in the next year or two and turn itself around like the PS3 did because as it stands, I feel the 400 euro I put down on the PS4 wasn't worth it yet and don't really want to put another 400 down on another console until the previous one has shown its worth.

kwestfan08

I'd imagine some sort of reveal at E3 in 2019 with a release in time for Christmas. That would leave it 6 years from the release of the ps4 which is plenty time for a console lifecycle.

[Deleted User]

sugarman wrote: »

Maybe not in the next gen of consoles, but I can see consoles moving towards cloud based systems similar to the GeForce Now service.

Essentially just buying a cheap console with limited low performance hardware to connect to their service to stream games.

I don't think the internet is good enough for that in certain parts of the world still unfortunately, a lot of countries still use dial up/isdn or close to it, yet have PS4s...

WarpAsylum

That's not so much backwards compatibility though. You could allow the PS5 to play PS4 games, no problem.
The issue would be if the PS4 had to be able to play PS5 games.

But I do get what you're saying. The full potential of the Pro and the X is hindered as things stand at the moment.

grogi

Launching frequently defeats the advantage of consoles really.

It took 7 years to release PS4, without any significant hardware upgrades for PS3. I don't think it will be shorter now, especially that we have the Pro... So 2020 the earliest. Sony is under no pressure to release a successor - their main source of revenue are sales of games, not the hardware...

jones

One thing i never get is the big fuss about backwards compatibility. I like it to a point and as a feature but when it starts holding consoles back i'm all in favour of ditching it. I think the X will be held back so much by the original one so i hope Sony have a good jump between the pro and the PS5 and dont need to take into account the Pro's vulnerabilities (i.e. cpu)

jones

Yeah i think the big increase will be in the CPU side which is really the bottleneck for the new consoles as far as i can see.

[Deleted User]

6 years with Pro at the midpoint seems reasonable. So launched end of 2019 in time for holiday sales.

The Specialist

I think we will start seeing a much longer timeframe between generations now that we've reached the PRO/One X & 4k Gaming. What could a new console realistically offer that we don't already have, apart from increased processing power for physics etc?

kunst nugget

heebusjeebus wrote: »

2019 at the earliest but more than likely 2020.
I read somewhere that it will need to be the next gen AMD chip (Ryzen in an APU I thnk) but that may not be affordable for home consoles for a while yet.

The next gen will definitely need beefier CPU's. We've seen this generation struggle with frame-rates compared to a PC, and this is mainly tied to low power processors.

EDIT:
This is probably out of date now but it goes through the options for a possible PS5. No chance we'll be seeing it this year though.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-could-sony-release-ps5-in-2018-in-theory

I can't see anything being released before November of next year.

heebusjeebus

2019 at the earliest but more than likely 2020.
I read somewhere that it will need to be the next gen AMD chip (Ryzen in an APU I thnk) but that may not be affordable for home consoles for a while yet.

The next gen will definitely need beefier CPU's. We've seen this generation struggle with frame-rates compared to a PC, and this is mainly tied to low power processors.

EDIT:
This is probably out of date now but it goes through the options for a possible PS5. No chance we'll be seeing it this year though.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-could-sony-release-ps5-in-2018-in-theory