nav[aria-label="Primary Navigation"] { padding: 0; & ul { list-style: none; width: 100%; display: flex; flex-direction: row; justify-content: start; align-items: start; gap: 30px; padding: 0; & li { margin: 0; } & ul li { list-style: none; } } }

Child Item

BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day

BorneTobyWilde

Modnote - Thread moved to new thread because the other one was near 10k posts.

Bangernomics part 5 here
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057493741

Bangernomics rules:
Under €2000
Valid NCT
Something you'd actually drive yourself
VRT paid
__________

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-bmw-520i-nct-05-18/15133222

YzVkMDVkZTU5ZjMxNzRkODZhNGI1YjczYzAxNmI2NDXXbbW5Dfnv4SYH_euhh6QZaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b183MTc1NjYwMnx8fDYwMHg2MDB8fHx8fHx8fA==.jpeg

YzVkMDVkZTU5ZjMxNzRkODZhNGI1YjczYzAxNmI2NDXXbbW5Dfnv4SYH_euhh6QZaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b183MTc1NjYwMnx8fDYwMHg2MDB8fHx8fHx8fA==.jpeg

nct 5/18
2005

Find more posts tagged with

Quick Links

Comments

Quazzie

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I'd agree that those Octavias are hardy and the engines aren't particularly problematic but a petrol Corolla/ Civic would probably be cheaper if/ when something does go wrong as the likelihood of an injector/ EGR/ turbo/ flywheel etc failing in that diesel is still present and these are failures that are far less likely in a petrol engine.

I'm not saying I'd let that alone put me off the Skoda by any means but if we are discussing reliability and nothing else, the Jap petrol is probably still a whisker better.

Petrol Octavia - best of both worlds.

Toyotafanboi

I'd agree that those Octavias are hardy and the engines aren't particularly problematic but a petrol Corolla/ Civic would probably be cheaper if/ when something does go wrong as the likelihood of an injector/ EGR/ turbo/ flywheel etc failing in that diesel is still present and these are failures that are far less likely in a petrol engine.

I'm not saying I'd let that alone put me off the Skoda by any means but if we are discussing reliability and nothing else, the Jap petrol is probably still a whisker better.

acronym Chilli

selectamatic wrote: »

Relatively simple, reliable and tunable A series tdi engine
Cheap and simple suspension setup
A whole raft of super cheap 2nd hand parts and panels (things like nice seats would be a very cheap yet major comfort upgrade.)

in terms of an easy car to keep on the road (straight-forward servicing, robust design, good general reliability, and ease of maintenance when jobs are needed), how would one compare these with e.g. Corollas or Civics of similar vintage?
(I'm hunting for a cheap second car for family)

1874

marklazarcovic wrote: »

Would it not have a 2 year cert no? If it's new test

Id have thought so too, maybe they let it pass the 10 year mark before getting it tested. Looking at the reg, I dont know if its a UK import? maybe that had something to do with the timing of the NCT and age?

1874

selectamatic wrote: »

I think those cheap tax mk1 Octavia's are a fine buy mind you I'd be aiming for the 1500 mark.

Relatively simple, reliable and tunable A series tdi engine
Cheap and simple suspension setup
A whole raft of super cheap 2nd hand parts and panels (things like nice seats would be a very cheap yet major comfort upgrade.)
Competant mechanics can sort any niggley issues with their eyes closed.

The dated look is really the only drawback, it is a big one though.

I only started seeing that mentioned here recently, (that they look dated), I guess Im one for odd looking cars, but Ive always thought they looked ok (after the facelift). Ive found mine economical, mostly relatively simple to work on, just replaced some rear suspension parts, moderately handy. Ive a facelifted version 7 years older than that red car but with less miles and was immaculate on the inside when I got it, its got a fairly high spec with lower miles), I consider them recommended, if I was looking right now (and for sure if it was an estate), Id hop on that 08 Mk1, mine was a UK import, so if that one is? Id check the underside for rust, that might even be applicable here, but its still only a 10 yo car..
I still get great mpg, and if I could pay out 280 tax annually instead of 190 per quarter Id consider that great, looking back, if I knew how reliable and was looking at the time, Id have bought when they were still selling Mk1s up till 09? if I had the money.

acronym Chilli wrote: »

What are they like with respect to water ingress, or any electrical issues?

Haven't had any myself, one of my keys recently doesnt operate the central locking anymore and the front passenger door lock always pops back up when you operate central locking from inside the car, I might take off the door card and see if there are any loose connections, I replaced all other cables for the rest of the electric windows except that one, regarding water ingress might also be dependant on what the car has put up with regarding usage, I dont have any.
One thing, mine is a pre dpf, I consider that an advantage as I dont do sufficient mileage in conventional wisdom to justify a diesel, but I still get as good if not better mileage (and its capable of fantastic mpg on long runs) than a petrol for not much more motor tax, not sure if that red one is a PD diesel, but if its had the correct oil, Im sure they are just as good,

I consider highly recommended for a reliable (fingers crossed) cheap to maintain and run car, my insurance has creeped up over the years with the usual crap about age etc, but Ive managed so far to avoid crippling increases by doing a lot of phoning around and changing providers, not sure how much longer that will get me, before that and the tax justify changing, which is mad as otherwise it (they) I consider are a great car.

johndaman66

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-octavia/17720130

2008 Mk 2 Octavia 1.9 TDI;
NCT 08/18 and taxed 08/18 were told - as we are told it is 100% mechanically (as opposed to 97%?)
Motor tax €270;
The next NCT is a long way off to be making such predictions now (one of Kim Jongs bombs might have blown it to bits in the meantime) and don't like the fact that mileage is not marked it - I find it very offputting in fact.
Asking €2,100.
To be honest I'd be more drawn to the previous Mk1 I provided.

acronym Chilli

166man wrote: »

Those Octavias are superb cars and I think they're brilliant.

Why?

Because they're exactly what a Skoda should be. Reliable basic functional transport. They don't pretend to be up market like the newer Skodas with people spending 50k on a Skoda.

I had one for a while - thing was a tank.

What are they like with respect to water ingress, or any electrical issues?

marklazarcovic

Would it not have a 2 year cert no? If it's new test

166man

Those Octavias are superb cars and I think they're brilliant.

Why?

Because they're exactly what a Skoda should be. Reliable basic functional transport. They don't pretend to be up market like the newer Skodas with people spending 50k on a Skoda.

I had one for a while - thing was a tank.

elperello

I know a chap who had one of those older models, he loved it.
He came under pressure from his OH to upgrade to a modern 1.6 version this year.
He is still crying over his beloved 1.9!

(incidentally I agree with johndaman in that the new one isn't all that much to look at. In fact I'd hazard a guess that people who are not interested in cars wouldn't know the old ones are so old only for the plates)

selectamatic

Just to clarify I'm not at all saying the ex taxi example I used was a better buy/car (checked my DD saved history and it had a price drop to 1250 before selling) I'm merely saying 2k or a touch lower is the price of clean saloon ones of them and at that they are a good solid bangernomics buy but not an absolute bargain.

One I had saved in Galway was listed at 2250 private black Irish car with low owners, big test and a G reg and it took over 20 days to sell so id wager it went for sub 2k. There's also a silver one in tip that's been for sale by a dealer for the past 6 or 7 months he started at over 3k and it's currently at 2650 and I'd be thinking it won't sell until he lists it at much closer to 2k. There's another one in Galway at 3k that's been up for 33 days that hasn't a hope of selling without a big price drop too.

If 2k was a bargain then that octavia would have sold the day it was posted on dd hence I implied if buying one a man would want to be aiming for the 1500 mark. Perhaps meet in the middle at 1750? Your not out to make friends buying cheap 2nd hand cars. I'm always overly polite and accommodating but the price is there to be negotiated on if a car isn't appearing to be in demand/selling at the owners desired asking price.

Oddly enough the estates are making much stronger money circa 2.5k as a selling price. I suppose it's down to their practicality and rarity.

CharlieCroker

It's an import and that older model was very popular as a taxi (hence why they continued to offer it) so I wouldn't be surprised if it had a history as a UK minicab before it got on the ferry.

Duke O Smiley

Theres something very appealing about that Octavia. I imagine it would give many years and many many thousands of km's of relatively hassle free motoring. I like the idea of a "new" car with old technology.

johndaman66

selectamatic wrote: »

You certainly won't get that one for 1500 unless it remains unsold for the next month. But I've seen a few rougher examples still with a long test going for the sub 2k Mark.

Had my eye on an ex taxi one in dub with big mileage, decent test and some taxi tax left which was listed at €1400 before Xmas as I knew someone looking for an insurable diesel beater but he couldn't get over the image aspect.
Despite the fact that for a 1st time driver they were the cheapest cheap tax diesel over 1.5 to insure by a mile. Liberty were throwing out quotes of €2100 for a driver with 1 year named experience and 2 parents named on the policy which I thought was decent.

Obviously there's still dealers looking for 3k for them but they'll never sell them at that.

Horses for courses, the fact that its a high mileage ex taxi makes it worth less anyway and a lot more people instantly just wont be interested. Taxi tax left on it would be irrelevant if you were to do things by the book. Obviously it would be necessary to view each and judge them on their merits and flaws but I'd be inclined to go for the one I linked to rather than the ex taxi you mention, all other things being equal. Also, there are private sellers never mind dealers asking €3k or more for them and see a dealer has one on at €4k. Having said that there are good bargains to be had with ex taxis that come up from time to time if you buy right and go in eyes wide open. I wouldn't be so quick as to instantly turn my nose up at one as a cheap runaround as some would.

Anyway the whole motor insurance thing is a funny one and getting funnier all the time. A lot of people still seem to thing engine size is the big factor when it comes to the car but would suggest make and model plays a much bigger part than people realise. Depends on the insurance provider and the drivers particulars too of course.

colm_mcm

That Octavia would be a bargain at €2000.

selectamatic

You certainly won't get that one for 1500 unless it remains unsold for the next month. But I've seen a few rougher examples still with a long test going for the sub 2k Mark.

Had my eye on an ex taxi one in dub with big mileage, decent test and some taxi tax left which was listed at €1400 before Xmas as I knew someone looking for an insurable diesel beater but he couldn't get over the image aspect.
Despite the fact that for a 1st time driver they were the cheapest cheap tax diesel over 1.5 to insure by a mile. Liberty were throwing out quotes of €2100 for a driver with 1 year named experience and 2 parents named on the policy which I thought was decent.

Obviously there's still dealers looking for 3k for them but they'll never sell them at that.

johndaman66

Do you really reckon you'd get a 2008 model on the cheaper tax for €1,500 though selectamatic? I like your optimism but am highly doubtful myself. Something tells me the seller is going to be hell bent on the €2k mark. You might be lucky but if you do manage to track one down for €1,500 then I would think it may be worth spending the extra €500 as what you will get will most likely be a very high mileage shed or at least something serious enough that needs to be put right. Go back to 2007 and I have no doubt there will be an abundance of similar and decent ones for €1,500 though.

Dated yeah, the design has being around these shores since around 1997/98. It wouldn't bother me too much though if I was in the market for a cheap runaround and many more will no doubt be in the same boat. Its not as if its replacement model is any oil painting anyway.

selectamatic

I think those cheap tax mk1 Octavia's are a fine buy mind you I'd be aiming for the 1500 mark.

Relatively simple, reliable and tunable A series tdi engine
Cheap and simple suspension setup
A whole raft of super cheap 2nd hand parts and panels (things like nice seats would be a very cheap yet major comfort upgrade.)
Competant mechanics can sort any niggley issues with their eyes closed.

The dated look is really the only drawback, it is a big one though.

johndaman66

Bangernomics is moving on. If your looking for a family car, willing to spend close to the €2k mark and not after anything overly exotic then you should probably be aiming for a 2008 model upwards for the chape tax etc etc.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/08-skoda-octavia-1-9-tdi-cheap-tax/17665598

2008 Octavia 1.9 tiddly diddly eye.
148K Miles;
NCT 09/2019
Asking €2,150;
Chape motor tax @ €280 p.a.

Extremely dated for 2008 but to many who are just after cheap transport and have their eye firmly fixated on the motor tax figure that wont matter a damn. Would I drive it? - all day long

johndaman66

Hal1 wrote: »

Or this one...
I do like the way the owners taken time to list all the works that have been done. Looks like a fair bit has been spent to get it right, and all the bits you'd expect to be serviced. Nct until august and a bit of tax to do until February....

NCT TILL END OF AUGUST 2018
TAX TILL END OF FEBRUARY 2018

€1950 takes her home.

On paper this one would be my choice of the two irrespective of the €650 extra, considering all that has being spent on it in the last while. The months extra motor tax and year up on other softens blow too. I wouldn't take the seller at his word though, would want to see the receipts in front of me (once or twice too often went to view a car on the premise of this and that being promised only to be told they were mislaid when I went to view. Would really urge a potential buyer to check insurance first though as not everyone will insure them so easily.
I wonder is 32mpg a realistic expectation though, even if drove with a light right foot?

Cantona's Collars

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-opel-vectra-new-nct-01-2019/17711633

2008 Vectra with new NCT.

Homer

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/seat-cordoba-1-4tdi-2005-nct-08-18-1-owner/17702412

Seat Cordoba
One lady owner, great body.

Oooooh matron

bear1

zweton wrote: »

Looks nice, any link? What model is most reliable in these? Petrol or diesel? What size engine is good?

Click the photo.
Personally I'd go for a turbo petrol if I was buying a saab.
Don't expect great economy though so if that's all you want then look for a tid.
Wouldn't bother with the 1.8 and stick to the 2.0

zweton

Looks nice, any link? What model is most reliable in these? Petrol or diesel? What size engine is good?

Hal1

Or this one...
I do like the way the owners taken time to list all the works that have been done. Looks like a fair bit has been spent to get it right, and all the bits you'd expect to be serviced. Nct until august and a bit of tax to do until February.

YmY2YWU1MGFhNDY3MzcwZmI4ODhhOTkwMzQwZDFmODSS9eFbVv7da9A7uPsf_PbZaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b184OTYyMDMzOXx8fDYwMHg2MDB8fHx8fHx8fA==.jpeg

NCT TILL END OF AUGUST 2018
TAX TILL END OF FEBRUARY 2018

€1950 takes her home.

Hal1

ZjY1ODJjNmJmNzZiOGE3NWQyY2RhYjYzNjcwMTVmNTNFZMkr1c3hFmbTKQr5ZceaaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b185MTQ3MTM0NHx8fDYwMHg2MDB8fHx8fHx8fA==.jpeg

Aero 9-3, nct 7/18, tax 1/18. €1300.

biko

passatman86, you have posted in the sales thread already. Don't post about your car in this thread any more.

colm_mcm

I don’t think anyone would be too fussed on a 8 owner car that’s only changed ownership before Christmas whether the old disc was there or not. They’re either in the market for such a car or not. That said it would be silly to just throw it away if it’s there.

Top Dog

Maggie Marie wrote: »

Bin the old nct cert, what is with the arousal for showing or keeping old nct certs anyway.

It shows the owner cared enough for the car to keep paperwork and history. More often than not, if a car has a nice bit of old paperwork it suggests its been looked after. I got a heap of paperwork with our current car - old MOT's, receipts for tyres, copy of paperwork for VRT, old NCT certs - I was delighted as it gave me an idea of the history of the car and also backed up the mileage displayed on the odometer.

Can only be a good thing IMO

colm_mcm

08 1.5 Swift
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-suzuki-swift-nct-10-2018-/17138100