FrancieBrady wrote: » Well Leo doesn't seem to have a problem with it and doesn't think it will lose him any votes. That tell you anything? When a FG Taoiseach is talking positively about it, something is afoot, be assured of that
The Golden Miller wrote: » Being opposed to a United Ireland in principle is unpatriotic by definition. For example, how could a Scottish person be patriotic if he supported the annexation of Scotland? Goes against the definition of patriotism. Of course, there are those who are 26 county nationalists, so they would see themselves as patriots of the "Republic of Ireland". Clowns in otherwords
All My Stars Aligned wrote: » WTF???? Your posts here are absolutely idiotic. On a scale of 1 - 10 the above is ****ing off the charts. When asked to provide some evidence as to how the ROI would financially support NI you can't. Why? Because the ROI cannot financially support itself in any sort of sustainable way. As other posters have said, our entire economy revolves around property and tax breaks to foreign multinationals. The EU would in no way want or allow one of its member states taking on a financial sinkhole like NI. Pease do us all a favour and crawl back under your Bobby Sands duvet cover.
wotzgoingon wrote: » My personal view is we should round up every protestant and tell them to hell or to england.
end of the road wrote: » eventually it's going to get to the stage where what the majority want or don't want won't matter. reunification will happen and it will be forced. britain wants out of NI and they will reduce spending on it accordingly and both it and the EU will force both north and south together via trade embargo's and sanctions if needs be. so people would be stupid not to vote for reunification as what britain and the EU will do if reunification doesn't happen would damage the country more then reunification ever could. reunification is going to happen, it would be better if it is voted for then forced.
blanch152 wrote: » Do you agree with him that a united Ireland requires cross-community support in the North?
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Should patriotism be considered a virtue in the first place?
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » ... and if they politely decline both options in favour of staying put?
wotzgoingon wrote: » Do you not know your own history we kill them to hell. That's what the whole to hell or to england means.
SeanSouth wrote: » United Ireland will never happen as a stand alone event. I don't want it and nobody that I know, wants it. The unionists don't want it and dare i say that most of the catholic community in NI doesn't want it. SinnFein and the British government want it !! The only sensible progression would be to unite the entire island of Ireland with the entire island of Britain. We need the Britts to sort out the political messes in this country. How long more can our gombeen politicians be entrusted with the failed health service, the failed police force, the homeless crises, the infrastructure crisis etc etc etc.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » you dont think he is actually serious, do you?
FrancieBrady wrote: » A FG Taoiseach being 'serious'? No, not at all, FG politicians will play games with northern Ireland people and use it as a bandwagon. He is indeed being mercenary. What do you think is motivating his comments? He's climbing onto a bandwagon which is heading inexorably to where he wants to be and he knows it.
Jawgap wrote: » I think you mean incendiary :D:D
end of the road wrote: » i have to disagree. protestants aren't the problem. 99% of them are good decent people. extreme loyalists are the problem and would be the candidates for your solution. those people would be in a small minority and don't even have support from their own community, who would gladly see the back of them.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Another question is: why world the unionists want to be a part of a United Ireland?
FrancieBrady wrote: » Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Another question is: why world the unionists want to be a part of a United Ireland? Well their name should give you a clue. They are British Unionists. Of course they would prefer to stay in the UK. But northern Ireland has always been a contested space and unionists as well as nationalists signed up to the GFA. That agreement states that both sides will agree to abide by the majority decision.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Question was 'why'? My point is: it's a bit rich to decry people for not being patriotic and then to steamroll over someone else's patriotism simply because they're in a minority.
All My Stars Aligned wrote: » From about 1986 onward the PIRA did not have the support from their own community and never had the support of the people of the ROI. This didn't stop the murdering terrorists though. BTW, there's a difference between having support and being feared. And as for your theory about the US and GB forcing UI, you are talking through your hoop.
Obi_Wan_Kenobi wrote: » Absolutely not, I'm Irish and would not want the 6 counties back. The amount of hassle it would cause and the cost !! NAh, keep them in the UK thanks.
end of the road wrote: » the provos who were freedom fighters (bar the few elements who did commit terrorism via targeting civilians) had a lot of support from people in the ROI. plenty of people supported them, even if they didn't admit to it. the theory that the EU and britain would "encourage" reunification isn't "talking through one's hoop" but a very possible theory. the loyalist extremists are not going to be able to sustain a campaign like that of the troubles. the cost would be small. it's blown out of proportion and dragged out as a last ditch attempt as to barely scrape together an argument against reunification is there is no argument against it.
Fr_Dougal wrote: » They were terrorists, not freedom fighters.