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Leinster v Ulster Build Up Thread

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stephen_n

awec wrote: »

I accept reality.

Our team is not as bad as results and performance suggest.

Kiss is hopeless and clueless and should feel free to fcuk off any time soon. As for the idea that he doesn't deserve this sort of message, I'd say catch a grip and look at Ulster's performances and results under his tenure.

Backwards at a rate of knots. He doesn't have a clue.

Did we not establish the results are the best since Anscombe?

awec

swiwi_ wrote: »

Your team has crap forwards. A coach made from a mixture of Schmidt, Jones, and Hansen would barely do any better imo.

Time to accept reality.

I accept reality.

Our team is not as bad as results and performance suggest.

Kiss is hopeless and clueless and should feel free to fcuk off any time soon. As for the idea that he doesn't deserve this sort of message, I'd say catch a grip and look at Ulster's performances and results under his tenure.

Backwards at a rate of knots. He doesn't have a clue.

Squidgy Black

Personally I'd prefer to see Larmour left out of the 6 nations squad (but included in the training camps).

Could really do with him for the Scarlets games. With Rob gone, and more than likely Joey (depending on his recovery timeframe and if he gets gametime in the next couple weeks) we could be really scarce at 15.

awec

Larmour is every bit as good as Stockdale, the big difference is Larmour has coaches that aren't hopeless. I can only imagine what Stockdale would be like if he was coached by someone semi-competent.

DevonDionne123

Savage stuff from Leinster 1-23 really all had their moments

Larmour is simply incredible to watch, probably still too green to break into Irish 23 and although will probably be in 6 nations wider squad another series of games with Leinster could do him good

Delighted for Ferg, really playing well and Daly was good too
Henshaw imo is the crucial lynch pin to everything Leinster do well in attack and Defense

Pack was really good and pleasantly suprised by Josh Murphy( my first time really seeing him) in all areas and controlled the play
Novenas were said when Furlong went down so hopefully he's ok...Tracy didn't look so good so door open for Cronin but who knows what his story is

Ulster plugged hard but turned the ball over so many times and just looked dis-organised
Best back was a plus but he failed to make an impact really
Thought Trimble actually looked good but I still can't get over why they played full strength with such huge European games coming up

jacothelad

thomond2006 wrote: »

I hope Larmour gets into the 6N outer squad.

Me too. Sometimes - rarely - a guy arrives and demands inclusion simply be the power of their performances and their obvious ability. Larmour is it. Is just too good to ignore. He seems to have the vision to go with pace and power. Get him in and let the opposition worry about him.

thebaz

thomond2006 wrote: »

I hope Larmour gets into the 6N outer squad, with a view to getting capped in Oz.

Ireland is rich in young back three players right now.

I think he will - he is a Joe type player

irishfan9

Buer wrote: »

The best thing that could happen to Ringrose from a Leinster perspective is that he is left out of the Irish 23 which is quite likely at this point. Let him get his confidence and groove back in the Pro14 carving open some teams. He is improving but still isn't close to the guy that many tipped to go on the Lions tour.

Larmour is a complete joy to watch in attack. The speed and fluidity of step is something that BOD (Lions 2001 try) and Fitzgerald (Croke Park 2009 try) had when they were 21 or 22 but lost very shortly thereafter through injury and bulking up. Hopefully he retains that ability because his step is probably the best of all.

assuming ringrose is healthy

thomond2006

I hope Larmour gets into the 6N outer squad, with a view to getting capped in Oz.

Ireland is rich in young back three players right now.

Buer

The best thing that could happen to Ringrose from a Leinster perspective is that he is left out of the Irish 23 which is quite likely at this point. Let him get his confidence and groove back in the Pro14 carving open some teams. He is improving but still isn't close to the guy that many tipped to go on the Lions tour.

Larmour is a complete joy to watch in attack. The speed and fluidity of step is something that BOD (Lions 2001 try) and Fitzgerald (Croke Park 2009 try) had when they were 21 or 22 but lost very shortly thereafter through injury and bulking up. Hopefully he retains that ability because his step is probably the best of all.

Bridge93

Clegg wrote: »

I think he's brilliant and his rise is being overlooked somewhat due to the emergence of so many other talented young players. He's a generational talent in an Irish context imo. Does so many things right on the pitch. Still needs to work on his tackling. It's been rather patchy since his comeback.

Yeah his defence and defensive reads were pretty good pre-injury so hopefully it's just a confidence thing given he's had surgery on both shoulders

Clegg

Bridge93 wrote: »

Clegg wrote: »

Larmour is a back three player for me. Preferably a full back where he can roam the backline looking to cut lines. It'd be so much harder for him to cut in and out playing at 13. In terms of the footwork required for that position I think Ringrose has the better of him.

Besides, I think it comes down the best use of resources. With that in mind you keep midfield as is and Larmour stays at FB. Stick Joey in at 10 and baby we got a stew going.

Garry has a rugby intelligence I can't remember seeing from a young Irish back in my time of watching. He doesn't possess any of the physical attributes that are almost mandatory to make a breakthrough these days be it speed, size or whatever. He reminds me so much of a Conrad Smith

I think he's brilliant and his rise is being overlooked somewhat due to the emergence of so many other talented young players. He's a generational talent in an Irish context imo. Does so many things right on the pitch. Still needs to work on his tackling. It's been rather patchy since his comeback.

Bridge93

Clegg wrote: »

Larmour is a back three player for me. Preferably a full back where he can roam the backline looking to cut lines. It'd be so much harder for him to cut in and out playing at 13. In terms of the footwork required for that position I think Ringrose has the better of him.

Besides, I think it comes down the best use of resources. With that in mind you keep midfield as is and Larmour stays at FB. Stick Joey in at 10 and baby we got a stew going.

Garry has a rugby intelligence I can't remember seeing from a young Irish back in my time of watching. He doesn't possess any of the physical attributes that are almost mandatory to make a breakthrough these days be it speed, size or whatever. He reminds me so much of a Conrad Smith

Bridge93

leinster were excellent across the board. But then they have been for a while. Which is why Garry Ringrose, who had been a bit slow on recovery from injury, was my highlight. Turns out he's also the lowlight with that ankle injury. Hopefully it's nothing given he walked off

Clegg

Larmour is a back three player for me. Preferably a full back where he can roam the backline looking to cut lines. It'd be so much harder for him to cut in and out playing at 13. In terms of the footwork required for that position I think Ringrose has the better of him.

Besides, I think it comes down the best use of resources. With that in mind you keep midfield as is and Larmour stays at FB. Stick Joey in at 10 and baby we got a stew going.

stephen_n

I just hope his legs hold up, that style of rugby has to take its toll, his step is incredible, barely seems to decelerate at all.

thebaz

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

He wont. Henshaw always was a centre through age grade and was built up to be a centre with connacht. Larmour always has played further out when not in Andrews where he played in midfield/10 because he had to in the school.

full back certainly suits - but he looks more a centre than wing to me

The Lost Sheep

thebaz wrote: »

players drift position these days - but takes time to adapt to full back , he's doing exceptional - could move to centre like henshaw and payne

He wont. Henshaw always was a centre through age grade and was built up to be a centre with connacht. Larmour always has played further out when not in Andrews where he played in midfield/10 because he had to in the school.

irishfan9

thebaz wrote: »

players drift position these days - but takes time to adapt to full back , he's doing exceptional - could move to centre like henshaw and payne

cant see him playing centre anytime soon bar as covering from the bench.

thebaz

irishfan9 wrote: »

a lot easier to be that electric from fullback than 13..

players drift position these days - but takes time to adapt to full back , he's doing exceptional - could move to centre like henshaw and payne

irishfan9

thebaz wrote: »

watching Ringrose come through was pretty exciting , but Larmour is something else again - I remember when BOD retired I never thought I'd see his like for leinster - overall the acedemy production line seams stronger than ever

a lot easier to be that electric from fullback than 13..

thebaz

watching Ringrose come through was pretty exciting , but Larmour is something else again - I remember when BOD retired I never thought I'd see his like for leinster - overall the acedemy production line seams stronger than ever

mfceiling

Thankfully my daughter had the good sense to turn off the power to the horizon box at 17 - 0.

Forwards lose matches and until we get some we will be losing matches on a regular basis.

If McFadden had have looked beside him when he broke it would have been another try and if he hadn't have slipped when he did it would have been another try.

Cheers ferg.

Synode

Porter's wrecking ball run. Starts at 0.37 secs. Good times for Leinster. Ferg looks delighted

https://twitter.com/leinsterrugby/status/949721944215228416

irishfan9

durkadurka wrote: »

Larmour was beefy enough a year and a half ago the first time I saw him so you might be right

yeah he's always been big for his size

durkadurka

errlloyd wrote: »

This might have nothing to do with it. (Greg Jones is quite slight), but the St Andrews SCT coach, David Jones is obsessed with S&C. Porter came through that programme.

Larmour was beefy enough a year and a half ago the first time I saw him so you might be right

Stheno

irishfan9 wrote: »

yeah.. not as atheltic back then

Makes sens e when I said he reminded me of Healy it was the leaner Healy who just barrelled through people

irishfan9

Stheno wrote: »

Seriously?

He reminded me of Healy earlier

yeah.. leaned up since u20

Squidgy Black

He's leaned down quite a bit from u20 believe it or not. Supposed to be an absolute monster in the gym, a few of the senior players have spoken about it in interviews

Stheno

irishfan9 wrote: »

porter was bigger at u20 level.. they had to slim him down for conditioning etc.

Seriously?

He reminded me of Healy earlier