GARDAI are investigating a string of stabbing attacks this morning that has left one man dead and two others injured. The incidents took place in Dundalk, Co Louth. One man has died after he was attacked and stabbed on Avenue Road. He is understood to be of Asian descent. His age is as yet unknown. The man was pronounced dead at the scene. It is understood that two other men - both understood to be Irish - were subsequently injured in separate attacks. Gardaí who were called to the scene confronted and disarmed the attacker. He has been arrested on suspicion of murder and is being detained at Dundalk Garda Station. He can be questioned for up to 24 hours. It is understood that the attacker is originally from Syria.
tomwaterford wrote: » Tbf were on a slippy road....if we start handing out different sentences based on name/nationality/or sex even for that matter IMO they should irrelevant when it comes to the law
Spanish Eyes wrote: » Can he be tried without any verifiable identity.
ArthurDayne wrote: » There seems to be a persistent inference in this talk of 'incompatibility of cultures' that people from cultural backgrounds all think the same way. There are 1.3 billion Muslims on the planet -- they are not all hooked up to some Muslim Mainframe where they are all programmed to think and act in the exact same way and to react to Western norms in the same way. I keep having to reiterate that Muslims living in Europe do so peacefully and law abidingly -- the proportion of them engaged in terrorism is microscopic while the ones who partake in general crime has more to do with socio-economic factors than by virtue of what religion they are. The Muslim population has continued to grow in Europe and there has been no correlating slide in Europe's freedoms and intellectual progress.
You say it is not racist or evil to say that one person's cultural background simply is not compatible with yours. Fair enough. But in times like this we have to look back at any point in history where people decided that people of one 'culture' should just be seen as undesirable as a collective. The Jews in Europe, the African Americans, Apartheid etc etc. The point is, you may feel that an exercise of generalising people by their cultural background is 'pragmatic' -- but historic precedent has shown us time and time again that it simply never works out well.
For Muslims living here currently in Ireland, if you think they are so incompatible with us, then you should be consistent in your views, seek them out, and say it to their faces. Tell them directly that they just don't belong with us. If that would make you uncomfortable, then think about why that is.
I'm not going to call you a racist at all -- but you fail to see that the idea you are espousing, however well-meaning you think it is, is the first classic step towards racism/sectarianism etc : generalise based on race/religion and just decide that an entire strata of people should just be viewed as being 'incompatible' with us.
ArthurDayne wrote: » How does she have to accept them? The law is the law in France -- as it is here (it is even more secular than here in fact). There are plenty of white Frenchmen who abuse, beat and rape women -- it does not mean that France is a country that tolerates the abuse of women, nor does a video showing some Muslims attempt to boss a woman around suggest that multiculturalism expects women to tolerate "middle eastern norms".
ArthurDayne wrote: » As for your point about avoiding parallel societies -- that is the very thing I am passionate about avoiding. The trend has been towards multiculturalism over the past few centuries -- human beings now regularly travel and settle far away from their native lands. That is the reality -- there is no going back to a world where we all live on monocultural islands. We have to make multiculturalism work or we will simply sow the seeds of segregation, hatred and conflict ---- as we have seen repeated over and over again in history. We never seem to learn.
splinter65 wrote: » Odhinn will now answer you with a post regarding the price of free range eggs in Hungary.
Harry Palmr wrote: » Have (has?) ISIS claimed anything about this yet?
Verpiss dich wrote: » You know what I can see this person being let out at some stage.
DanMurphy wrote: » The pendulum that is Irish public opinion will eventually swing in this lads favor. The first sign to watch for is the print media, who will begin using his first name, and calling him 'a teen' to soften any ill feelings which linger once the poor Japanese lad is buried, RIP. Maybe our own Ibraheem will be 'called in' to council the lad? Followed with the usual guff I've heard already today in town. Age (only) 18, a mere child, alone in a foreign country, and far from family and friends. Confused, probably mentally ill and / a sexual abuse victim / or a gay Muslim youth (despite his denial) and terrified of his sexuality being discovered by his peers? Could be any one of our sons...God help us... 'Living is a disused shed... in this weather, in a modern country like ours.' 'No wonder he went 'off the head!'
Verpiss dich wrote: » Can't claim to have read even half the posts in this thread. It has been repeated a number of times however ISIS only claim an attack if the attacker dies in the attack. Did you miss that?
recedite wrote: » First of all, that is nonsense. Maybe you are getting mixed up with something else; jihadis only go to paradise and get the 72 virgins if they die in the attack. Secondly, ISIS were destroyed last year and their capital Raqqa was overrun by Kurdish Peshmerga fighters. So don't hold your breath waiting for the next ISIS press release :pac:
ArthurDayne wrote: » What does this prove? What's your point?
recedite wrote: » Secondly, ISIS were destroyed last year
p_singh wrote: » He was from Egypt and not Syria. Attempted asylum in UK, didn't get it.. crossed over illegally to ROI and perhaps just went bat**** crazy. At the end of the day, an illegal immigrant killed a legal one. He should have been dealt with the first time when he was caught without papers by Garda.
Doltanian wrote: » Yes because because what happened in Dundalk wasn't barbaric at all. All scum and terrorists like this should pay the ultimate penalty, I'd be perfectly fine with giving him an injection of Nembutal and I've watched animals be put to sleep to end their suffering and it is a peaceful a death as you could give an animal. This guy is not even an animal as animals are shown to have empathy. The Death Sentence is what he needs and it should be introduced and used often for all murder and a host of other crimes.
fxotoole wrote: » No. We should hold ourselves to a higher standard than these animals, otherwise we become just as bad as them.
Strazdas wrote: » I believe he was stopped on New Year's Day. It might possibly explain how he might somehow have slipped through the system : a public holiday and everywhere closed that day. It's possible he came up with some sob story that threw the Gardai off the scent.
Kivaro wrote: » And then you will have the likes of Minister Zappone getting involved to protect his rights .........
Grayson wrote: » So on one page we have people whinging about cultures/people that don't respect human rights and then we have people complaining that someone might stand up for his rights.
Verpiss dich wrote: » And in the real world two badly injured and one killed. But excuse me do go on. Edit your posts combined with the two posters I quoted two pages ago adds up to 42,306 posts. That is a lot of hot air. I could do with a cool refreshing breeze.
Grayson wrote: » isn't that what you right wingers call virtue signalling?
Verpiss dich wrote: » When did I say I was right wing?
Grayson wrote: » Sorry. I'm playing xbox and posting at the same time.
