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D&D Subforum / Pen & Paper RPG Discussion Thread

Fourier

Posted this in the tabletop forum, but it was suggested some here might be interested:

Anybody interested in an online play-by-post game of some tabletop RPG. I've been finding Roll20 difficult to schedule as most players are in different time zones and so would prefer an Irish crowd.

No experience required and it'd be relaxed enough in pace.

Games I'd be interested in running:

1st Edition D&D, but with one of the modern adventures (award winning ones published in the last few years).

Cyberpunk 2020 Blade Runner-ish, also going to be made into a game by the lads who made the Witcher games

Rippers Resurrected High action Victorian horror, like a lighter Penny Dreadful

All of these have very cheap pdf options.

EDIT: Another possibility is Vampire: The Masquerade.

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Fourier

More levelling up and multiclassing tomorrow. I'm off.

Necro

Just an FYI to others, there's a WW game starting this Sunday so might be slightly quieter around here till Friday as a result....
If you do want to know what all the talk re: Werewolf is about I still have 2 slots remaining.... just sayin'.

OldGoat

Necrominus wrote: »

Just an FYI to others, there's a WW game starting this Sunday so might be slightly quieter around here till Friday as a result....
If you do want to know what all the talk re: Werewolf is about I still have 2 slots remaining.... just sayin'.

REPORTed to the forum mods for spamming. :P

Necro

OldGoat wrote: »

REPORTed to the forum mods for spamming.

:(:(:(:(

Fourier

Multiclassing is fairly simple. You can split your XP and spend it on another class's progression ladder.

The limit is that you can be no more than three classes. Also Hit Die are halved. The AEC has the example of Thief/Fighter. If the character goes up a level in thief, they only get 1d4/2 extra health.

Details are on p.24 of the AEC, but there really isn't much else.

Note the forbidden combinations:
Dwarf/Fighter, Halfling/Fighter, Elf/any class, Paladin/any class, Monk/any class

Technical note: Here Dwarf/Fighter means you can't combine the Dwarf racial class with the Fighter class. However Race: Dwarf, Class: Fighter is allowed.

I'm going to make a post now about the final class and race layouts.

Banjo

Do you round the halfed hit die up or down?
Is this retroactively applied to previous rolls?

For the hybridised among us (Necro and myself) does our current state count as one class or two?

If you choose say Magic User / cleric, do you get 2 sets of spells a day? Do you need to spend 2 hours a day learning (or 16 hours asleep!?)

Necro

Banjo wrote: »

Do you round the halfed hit die up or down?
Is this retroactively applied to previous rolls?

For the hybridised among us (Necro and myself) does our current state count as one class or two?

If you choose say Magic User / cleric, do you get 2 sets of spells a day? Do you need to spend 2 hours a day learning (or 16 hours asleep!?)

Two laddie. I need 1.5 times the XP of a normal dwarf to level up after level 6.... not sure if that affects you or not

Fourier

Banjo wrote: »

Do you round the halfed hit die up or down?

Down, but the .5 is "stored" as it may combined with a later .5

Is this retroactively applied to previous rolls?

No.

If you choose say Magic User / cleric, do you get 2 sets of spells a day? Do you need to spend 2 hours a day learning (or 16 hours asleep!?)

Only eight hours sleep, as this is the time for both your internal magical stores to recharge (Magic-User) and a requirement of the gods (Cleric).

Two hours to prepare. One hour to pray and another to memorise spells.

Answer to your other question will be in the detailed post on classes and races.

Banjo

Necrominus wrote: »

Two laddie. I need 1.5 times the XP of a normal dwarf to level up after level 6.... not sure if that affects you or not

No idea. I suspect finding out will involve Othegre being paralysed, imminent death and then an explosion. Just a hunch

Fourier wrote: »

Answer to your other question will be in the detailed post on classes and races.

BUT I DONT WANNA WAIT!!!

OldGoat

Magic user / assassin. Right up my current characters street. Let me be an alchemist too and I'll poison the World - or whatever remains of it after I let it burn with magical apocryphal 'splosions.

Fourier

Just to note, when I say "Race" I'm referring to a mechanical concept from the AEC. BandyLegs is of course a Dwarf, but he has no race mechanically, just the Dwarf Class. For this reason I've given "None" as a race below. In brackets next to each class are the races who can take it. It seems like a massive list, but they're all from Labyrinth Lord officially, except for Gold Dragon that I took from a Magazine and Vampire that comes a class popular at conventions.

Races:
None**
Human
Dwarf
Elf
Halfling
Gnome
Half-Orc
Half-Elf
Ancient Elf**
Ancient Human
Deep Dwarf
Hobbit
Vampire**

*None must start with one of the following classes: Dwarf, Elf, Halfling, Dragon.
**These races have to multiclass, they don't have the choice. Vampire has Blood Magic User for free when multiclassing.

Classes:
Assassin (Human, Elf, Dwarf, Gnome, Half-Elf, Half-Orc, Vampire, None)
Cleric (Human, Dwarf, Elf, Gnome, Half-Elf, Half-Orc, Vampire, None)
Druid (Human, None)
Fighter (Human, Dwarf, Halfling, Half-Elf, Half-Orc, None)
Illusionist (Human, Gnome, None)
Magic-User (Human, Elf, Half-Elf, None)
Monk (Human, None)
Paladin (Human, None)
Ranger (Human, Half-Elf, None)
Thief (Human, Dwarf, Elf, Gnome, Halfling, Half-Elf, Half-Orc, None)
Dwarf (None)
Dwarven Cleric (None)
Elf (None)
Halfling (None)
Samurai (Human, None)
Ninja (Human, None)
Gold Dragon (None)
Fighting Man (Ancient Human, Ancient Elf, Deep Dwarf, Hobbit)
User of the Old Magic (Ancient Human, Ancient Elf)
Cleric of the forgotten gods (Ancient Human)
Blood Magic User (Vampire)

Multiclassing restrictions:
The following class combinations are not allowed.

Dwarf/Fighter, Halfling/Fighter, Elf/any class, Paladin/any class, Monk/any class

Fourier

Necrominus wrote: »

Two laddie. I need 1.5 times the XP of a normal dwarf to level up after level 6.... not sure if that affects you or not

Your state is:
Race: Vampire
Class: (Multiclassing) Blood Magic User, Cleric

BandyLegs is:
Race: None
Class: Dwarven Cleric

sKeith

When multi-classing, can you lvl up which ever class you wish, or does your original class stay on hold until new class catches up?

Necro

Fourier wrote: »

Your state is:
Race: Vampire
Class: (Multiclassing) Blood Magic User, Cleric

BandyLegs is:
Race: None
Class: Dwarven Cleric

Can I just be of dwarven race then :P Probably not a good idea picking Elf or Halfling Dwarven Cleric...

OOOOHHHHH

DRAGON Dwarven Cleric. Make it happen

sKeith

Necrominus wrote: »

Can I just be of dwarven race then :P Probably not a good idea picking Elf or Halfling Dwarven Cleric...

OOOOHHHHH

DRAGON Dwarven Cleric. Make it happen

You are race 'none' , the only race that can be a dwarven cleric!

'None' can multi-class dwarven cleric and golden dragon

Banjo

Necrominus wrote: »

Can I just be of dwarven race then :P Probably not a good idea picking Elf or Halfling Dwarven Cleric...

OOOOHHHHH

DRAGON Dwarven Cleric. Make it happen

That would explain Citras interest in you. Because any dragons in our party as PCs are here kids...

It also means you should be able to swing us a free train ride

Fourier

sKeith wrote: »

When multi-classing, can you lvl up which ever class you wish, or does your original class stay on hold until new class catches up?

Once you multiclass, I award two (or three) sets of XP to your character, one for each class.

Fourier

Necrominus wrote: »

Can I just be of dwarven race then :P

I'll have a short post soon comparing:

Race: None
Class: Dwarven Cleric

and

Race: Dwarf
Class: Cleric

Just out of interest.

Banjo

Fourier wrote: »

Your state is:
Race: Vampire
Class: (Multiclassing) Blood Magic User, Cleric

BandyLegs is:
Race: None
Class: Dwarven Cleric

Wait, I'm already a blood magic user? Damn, I was going to multiclass as a blood magic user...

Ok, you need to pm me my actual XP because I've been levelling up as a cleric

(Well, not "need". I'd appreciate it if you would, as I've been cheating for months!)

Fourier

Banjo wrote: »

Wait, I'm already a blood magic user? Damn, I was going to multiclass as a blood magic user...

It's the class giving you your Vampiric powers.

Fourier

Banjo wrote: »

Ok, you need to pm me my actual XP because I've been levelling up as a cleric

Vampire is an unusual race. You have several weaknesses, but in return you multiclass for free.

Banjo

Fourier wrote: »

It's the class giving you your Vampiric powers.

Shhhhhh! They're a secret!

Necro

sKeith wrote: »

You are race 'none' , the only race that can be a dwarven cleric!

None can multi-class dwarven cleric and golden dragon

Shut up and maybe he'll forget :pac::pac::pac::pac:

sKeith

Necrominus wrote: »

Shut up and maybe he'll forget :pac::pac::pac::pac:

Should have put second none in quotes too.
The race 'none' can multi-class DC + GD

Necro

sKeith wrote: »

Should have put second none in quotes too.
The race 'none' can multi-class DC + GD

Dragon Dwarven Cleric it is!! Bandylegs is the spawn of a dwarf and a dragon... this explains so much!!!

Fourier

sKeith wrote: »

Should have put second none in quotes too.
The race 'none' can multi-class DC + GD

Ah, indeed. Note added. There was actually an article about this in one of the 80s issues of Dragon magazine, i.e. can 'None' multiclass

Necro

You mean I could actually become a Dragon Dwarven Cleric??

O. M. G.

My dreams are coming true!!

sKeith

Necrominus wrote: »

You mean I could actually become a Dragon Dwarven Cleric??

O. M. G.

My dreams are coming true!!

Note added to above post saying none cannot multi class..

Need to remember that if choosing golden dragon for reroll.

Necro

Fourier wrote: »

Ah, indeed. Note added. There was actually an article about this in one of the 80s issues of Dragon magazine, i.e. can 'None' multiclass

sKeith wrote: »

Note added to above post saying none cannot multi class..
Need to remember that if choosing golden dragon for reroll.

Fourier

(None, Dwarven Cleric) vs (Dwarf,Cleric):

1. (None, Dwarven Cleric) goes up to Level 20, (Dwarf,Cleric) goes to Level 8

2. (None, Dwarven Cleric) has better saving throws

3. (Dwarf,Cleric) can multiclass, as the Dwarf race can

4. (Dwarf,Cleric) has access to destructive spells

5. (Dwarf,Cleric) levels at the rate of Cleric. (None, Dwarven Cleric) levels at the rate of 1.5 x (None, Dwarf). So (None, Dwarven Cleric) is about twice as slow at leveling.