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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 5) Read Mod Note in Post 1

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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 5)

The last thread was nearing the 10k post limit where boards explodes so here's part 5.

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Mellor wrote: »

That's the nature of fighting in Russia.
Does it mean his early record is padded? Yes.
Does a padded record mean he isn't legit? No. He can only beat whoever they put in front of him.

15th fight is hardly early. It's 60% into his career.

Anyone doing well in the UFC is legit so when I say he's overrated i'm not saying he's crap. But people are going overboard with their praise of Khabib. He has a handful of impressive wins, he's fought four times in four years and all of a sudden he is the second coming of Jesus and people are saying he's going to maul Conor.

ASOT

DrPhilG wrote: »

Haven't been in this thread for a while so haven't gone reading everything. Apologies if this has been covered.

Is there no sign of the UFC stripping Conor? Obviously he's the golden goose and has them by the balls but approaching 14 months now for a fit and able fighter not defending his title is absolutely taking the pis$.

The interim champ is injured, he wont be stripped until they try get that fight sorted.

Zero-Cool

Gonad wrote: »

Anyone see Tony Mcgregor giving Khabib abuse on Twitter haha

No, I saw khabib's manager Ali getting involved tho. He's a cringey/sleazy mother****er.

Gonad

Anyone see Tony Mcgregor giving Khabib abuse on Twitter haha

DrPhilG

Haven't been in this thread for a while so haven't gone reading everything. Apologies if this has been covered.

Is there no sign of the UFC stripping Conor? Obviously he's the golden goose and has them by the balls but approaching 14 months now for a fit and able fighter not defending his title is absolutely taking the pis$.

thewheel2.0

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Khabib is good no question but he was fighting a guy who's main weapon is kick and can't really box,
It made it easier for him to close the distance you just have to worry about the one big kick once your past it then your on, When kicking is your only game against a top notch wrestler your in trouble ,
With McGregor he has to worry about someone who can drop him with punches its a different ball game,

I was screaming at the TV for Barboza to box, Khabib was standing right in front of him, asking for it. Very disappointing outing from Barboza.

For me the intrigue in Conor v Khabib is if Conor can KO him like he did Aldo. If Khabib gets just one take down, it is 100% over due to Conor loosing the KO pop from fighting the takedown/groundwork.

Tazzimus

Urindanger wrote: »

He was rocked by Diaz, albeit whilst tired. Diaz has horrific punch technique and has very little venom in his shots yet he rocked him. Solid but not iron. Mendes's striking troubled Conor more than Johnson or Edson troubled Khabib, take from that what you will... Point being Conor isn't invincible on the feet and can get got.

It doesn't have to be a power shot to wobble you, just has to be precise.
Actually takes very little power to knock someone out, just a punch/kick in the right area of the face.

Conor walked through Mendes shots like they were nothing, it was the wrestling that caused him hassle.

Johnson and Barboza both hurt Khabib, just couldn't follow it up properly. Conor would punish him for those 7-8 minutes, if it went that long.

yourdeadwright

clsmooth wrote: »

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I'm not a huge Connor fan but its pretty obvious you can't walk down Connor, Barboza was loading up on kicks its 100 times easier to walk someone down like that than someone who punches like Connor does, Connor doesn't have to set himself like Barboza does and can throw combinations on the move, Plus he has the power to hurt you with hands, you can't just walk him down

It'll be a much better fight than the one the other night,

i’d disagree with that, Diaz was walking down and landing at will in the first fight. Mayweather walked him down easily, McGregor himself said it after the fight, if he could change anything about the camp it would have been to have train with a sparring partner who walked him down as he struggles with it. It’s the blueprint to beat him IMO

You are 100 % correct, I should have said without good boxing,
I wont take anything from the Mayweather fight into MMA conversation its just to different but Diaz can box and also has a Zombie like chin, He got hit hard and often and took it, Khabib can't take them shots ,

Urindanger

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Never KO'd not even dropped. Fairly solid chin if you ask me

Mendes striking did not trouble him, not one bit. The wrestling did. Who won that fight by KO in round 2 actually??

He was rocked by Diaz, albeit whilst tired. Diaz has horrific punch technique and has very little venom in his shots yet he rocked him. Solid but not iron. Mendes's striking troubled Conor more than Johnson or Edson troubled Khabib, take from that what you will... Point being Conor isn't invincible on the feet and can get got.

Lukker-

It'd be interesting to see who's pressure was more effective early on. Both guys are relentless, only difference is Khabib can generally keep up the pace. Conor has 7 minutes of relentless pressure. But no one has ever really managed to resist that early pressure from him, so that would be his path to victory you would imagine.

walshb

clsmooth wrote: »

i’d disagree with that, Diaz was walking down and landing at will in the first fight. Mayweather walked him down easily, McGregor himself said it after the fight, if he could change anything about the camp it would have been to have train with a sparring partner who walked him down as he struggles with it. It’s the blueprint to beat him IMO

Mayweather walked him down in a boxing match when he was tiring badly...Only having to be concerned with Conor punching him with 10 oz gloves.

clsmooth

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I'm not a huge Connor fan but its pretty obvious you can't walk down Connor, Barboza was loading up on kicks its 100 times easier to walk someone down like that than someone who punches like Connor does, Connor doesn't have to set himself like Barboza does and can throw combinations on the move, Plus he has the power to hurt you with hands, you can't just walk him down

It'll be a much better fight than the one the other night,

i’d disagree with that, Diaz was walking down and landing at will in the first fight. Mayweather walked him down easily, McGregor himself said it after the fight, if he could change anything about the camp it would have been to have train with a sparring partner who walked him down as he struggles with it. It’s the blueprint to beat him IMO

Ultimate Seduction

Urindanger wrote: »

Chad Mendes, who's Trex arms personified landed a few times, Khabib can too. And Conor has shown his chin isn't iron either by any means.

Never KO'd not even dropped. Fairly solid chin if you ask me

Mendes striking did not trouble him, not one bit. The wrestling did. Who won that fight by KO in round 2 actually??

Urindanger

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Khabib with his little t-rex arms can hurt Conor with striking? Now that is nonsense.

Chad Mendes, who's Trex arms personified landed a few times, Khabib can too. And Conor has shown his chin isn't iron either by any means.

yourdeadwright

sonofenoch wrote: »

EagererBeaver wrote: »

The fact it's the McGregor thread means you can just accuse people of having an agenda? Interesting view on the purpose of the thread.

Ffs, you can't logically draw a line from "Ferguson can't bother him striking" to "McGregor can bother him striking" simply because McGregor is a better striker than Ferguson. There's no equivalence in there. And then to convince yourself that that adds up to an agenda.

"Nate broke Conor in two rounds, he wouldn't make it out of the first with Khabib. He'd be walked down, mauled and give his back again"

Where's the equivalence there then? the Diaz fight and what Khabib will do?

notwithstanding the fact there was a 2nd fight (ignored)

why you singling out what I posted unless you share the same agenda....and yes I can accuse have you read this and all the other posts on these treads Ffs

I'm not a huge Connor fan but its pretty obvious you can't walk down Connor, Barboza was loading up on kicks its 100 times easier to walk someone down like that than someone who punches like Connor does, Connor doesn't have to set himself like Barboza does and can throw combinations on the move, Plus he has the power to hurt you with hands, you can't just walk him down

It'll be a much better fight than the one the other night,

yourdeadwright

Khabib is good no question but he was fighting a guy who's main weapon is kick and can't really box,
It made it easier for him to close the distance you just have to worry about the one big kick once your past it then your on, When kicking is your only game against a top notch wrestler your in trouble ,
With McGregor he has to worry about someone who can drop him with punches its a different ball game,

walshb

Urindanger wrote: »

I'd agree, but this isn't a boxing match.

Striking is not boxing either...

Tazzimus

Urindanger wrote: »

The fact Johnson was able to land pretty easily is far more noteworthy. I feel a lot of people are taking Joe Rogan's words as gospel again with regards to him being hurt. Joe Rogan talks as much nonsense as he does sense. I haven't seen that fight since it happened but I remember Khabib still coming forward and sticking to the gameplan. Very little evidence to say he was hurt. Conor has good power and good shot selection. There is no doubt he has the potential to hurt Khabib, but there's an argument that Khabib can hurt Conor with striking as well.

Have you seen how sloppy his striking is?
Only way he's landing a punch is if Conor is on his back or gassed.

Standing, he'll be butchered.

Ultimate Seduction

Urindanger wrote: »

The fact Johnson was able to land pretty easily is far more noteworthy. I feel a lot of people are taking Joe Rogan's words as gospel again with regards to him being hurt. Joe Rogan talks as much nonsense as he does sense. I haven't seen that fight since it happened but I remember Khabib still coming forward and sticking to the gameplan. Very little evidence to say he was hurt. Conor has good power and good shot selection. There is no doubt he has the potential to hurt Khabib, but there's an argument that Khabib can hurt Conor with striking as well.

Khabib with his little t-rex arms can hurt Conor with striking? Now that is nonsense.

Urindanger

The fact Johnson was able to land pretty easily is far more noteworthy. I feel a lot of people are taking Joe Rogan's words as gospel again with regards to him being hurt. Joe Rogan talks as much nonsense as he does sense. I haven't seen that fight since it happened but I remember Khabib still coming forward and sticking to the gameplan. Very little evidence to say he was hurt. Conor has good power and good shot selection. There is no doubt he has the potential to hurt Khabib, but there's an argument that Khabib can hurt Conor with striking as well.

Ultimate Seduction

ASOT wrote: »

The man took multiple barboza head kicks clean and still kept coming, johnson "wobbling" him is highly exaggerated.

"Clean" is highly exaggerated.

Both head kicks were blocked by Khabib as far as I could see and one where just his toes clipped Khabib shoulder.

ASOT

The man took multiple barboza head kicks clean and still kept coming, johnson "wobbling" him is highly exaggerated.

Gonad

Think Conor knocks Khabib out myself .
Michael Johnson showed that he can be hurt and Conor is to precise with his shots.

The shots Conor was landing on Diaz in both fights would have Khabib asleep inside a round . Even when Khabib has guys down his shots although relentless are not really doing that much damage . Guys are getting back to their feet against him weather it be at he start of the next round or fighting back to their feet but they are not precise enough to keep him off

Someone like Conor it just takes one shot as he has shown in all his fights he hurts people when he lands. Apart from the Mendes fight when he was clearly not in ye best of health nobody has kept him down . IMO the Mendes off those days was a better fighter than Khabib .

Urindanger

walshb wrote: »

I would pick Conor to beat Khabib...

Few ifs.......he's neater, faster and rangier. I think he could time him, slow the pace and strike him out of there....Neatness and clinic-ism win out.

I'd agree, but this isn't a boxing match.

AlmightyCushion

walshb wrote: »

It's his first fight that I have heard of against a natural talented big dude....

Yes, he won FW and LW belts.......he was supposed to as far as I am concerned....two "little" men he beat...

His best win is against Diaz, and Diaz for me is just not great!

He KO'd also Aldo, a man who was undefeated for years, in 13 seconds. He TKO'd mendes, a wrestler who hits hard and people were saying was Conor's Kryptonite before the fight. He also made Alvarez look like an absolute amateur. Those are great wins. Also, before the second Diaz fight most of the experts were giving him no chance.

walshb

It's his first fight that I have heard of against a natural talented big dude....

Yes, he won FW and LW belts.......he was supposed to as far as I am concerned....two "little" men he beat...

His best win is against Diaz, and Diaz for me is just not great!

dulux99

Khabib doesn’t land every takedown he goes for, and people can get up from below him – Abel Trujillo kept getting up when Khabib took him down for instance. McGregor has got good TDD and is good at getting up from bottom, but my fear would be that the energy he’d expend by A.) fighting the takedown and B.) getting up from bottom, would eventually catch up with him and he’d lose all the pop from his shots and eventually get finished late or lose a decision. He would need to go into the camp of all camps to prepare for Khabib IMO, but it is doable.

I’ve probably fancied McGregor in every one of his UFC fights to date, but I’d have to give the edge to Khabib in this one. It is THE fight though, in my eyes. A dream match up. He’s already had a career of iconic moments but if he were to beat Khabib, it would top them all in my opinion.

dashoonage

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Khabib was rocked by Johnson before he got it to the ground, conor definitely has the tools to beat him with his technique or precision. If it goes past the first with khabibs relentless pressure I can't see conor keeping it off the floor or having the gas to keep back peddling and fighting from a defensive point of view.

Mellor

jcd5971 wrote: »

Mellor wrote:

That's the nature of fighting in Russia. Does it mean his early record is padded? Yes. Does a padded record mean he isn't legit? No. He can only beat whoever they put in front of him.

Khabib is a monster on the ground.
But he is ponderous on the feet.

I could easily see McGregor being taken down and grinder into oblivion for 5 or submitted.
I could also see Khabib getting slept handily on the feet.

Kinda why I'd like to see the damn fight happen.

I agree completely tbh.
My point was simply that the soft record doesn't affect his ability. He's as good as he his regardless of who he fought. He can only beat whoever is in front of him.
On UFC performances alone he is stellar.