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Nightclubs - Why?

Solomon Pleasant

Title says it all really.

Why do people actually regularly go to nightclubs? I have a few issues with them.

1) The culture. I was out last night in a fairly large town. Was in the club and decided to take a moment to look around me. Women being sexually harassed, people pissed and chatting s***e, people vomiting due to excessive alcohols/drug consumption and music so loud I can’t hear what anyone is saying. That’s not even getting into the whole lads squaring up to each other because they feel the need to prove themselves and their caveman-like toughness. There aren’t a lot of reasons to start brawling in public and “that prick staring me out of it” definitely isn’t one of them.

2) Prices. This particular club, which wasn’t in Dublin, charged me 12€ entry fee . Drinks were, as always, ridiculously overpriced and I genuinely don’t know how people do this on a weekly basis. I’m a college student in Dublin so many of my peers regularly go to these and I find myself questioning their sanity if I’m honest. Taxis are another thing. Ended up standing on the way home in one last night as it was so packed. Talk about overpriced, eh?

3) The morning after. I’ve gone through extended periods of my life where I kept alcohol to a minimum. Mentally and physically, the benefits are enormous. I probably drank a little bit too much last night and woke up this morning feeling like absolute rubbish. Alcohol is a depressant and I really feel it. I’m more anxious and stressed than I’ve been in quite some time and it’s due to overpriced alcohol. (No one forces me to drink naturally, but clubbing sober would make me suicidal ha!). People are just generally less productive and can’t funtion as well after such a late night.

A few other points:
- It’s so repetitive and mind numbingly boring.
- Queueing is a disaster
- Personal space doesn’t exist in clubs
- Clubs usually have sauna-like temperatures and it’s horrible
- Clubbing should not be anyone’s hobby, it’s just laughable

This just about sums up my attitudes towards clubs. I can only assume that I’m an outlier here who doesn’t understand the real purpose of clubs. I assume that is to get laid, but that doesn’t happen very often from what I see. Also I’d question if the odds of getting laid are worth wasting time, energy and money on a club.

Why then, are clubs packed every single weekend?

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DEFTLEFTHAND

Small town niteclubs can be very bleak places.

zmgakt7uw2dvfs

Great analysis here.

[Deleted User]

snotboogie wrote: »

Really? Haha Which ones?
The old Vics in Beijing was a sight to behold but not always for the right reasons, same goes for Propaganda. Shelter in Shanghai has some great novelty value and some good DJ's. Richbaby and the other Louhu clubs in Shenzhen were also, an experience.... Other than that you just have the worst generic Chinese clubs with overpriced Chivas and ubiquitous bottle service tables with little or no space to stand around or dance.

True enough. I started loving clubs in China.

They were so different to the Irish/UK clubs. Good looking clubs, and usually clean. Little to no fighting. No queuing at the bar. Table service and generally welcoming staff. No service charge for entry. Cloakrooms. And women that dressed up for a night out. I know... All pretty normal services/factors but often sadly lacking in Irish clubs.

I enjoyed all of the places you mentioned, although I lived mostly in Xian, which revolved around a few more somewhat generic type clubs (Salsa, Muse, and a host of others that disappeared every few years). Which were perfect for the weekly playtime, and then fly to HK or outside China for a longer weekend of fun.

But totally agree that the vast majority are generic and copycat everyone else that has even a little bit of success. China is still relatively new to the bar/nightclub scene considering the normal traditional attraction of KTV. I'd expect to see them develop into something far better in the main cities. And they did in the ten years I was there. They did improve (although get worse in other regards).

Still far better than the majority of clubs in UK/Ireland.

Herb Powell

Urindanger wrote: »

I much prefer drinking craft beer that's just been invented last week out of a hand crafted glass, blast chilled with vegan hydrogen molecules while sitting on the outskirts of a late bar listening to the latest underground indie band which are fabulous. Amongst our entourage are similar minded people who have been blessed with the finest quality of taste both palette and auditory. The party does not exist without our presence we jest.

Perhaps I'll have a bag of peanuts if they have the dry roast kind in stock and they were picked by cinnamon and nutmeg scented hands. If not, I'll avoid temptation and save myself for the hummus that I made from scratch with the finest imported tahini. I'll escort a woman of highest quality and demand back to my luxury apartment where I will seduce her with my collection of fine art which was made with vegan paint and hemp canvas.

This, but unironically

Deleted User wrote: »

Some people want the clubs wedged with people. Been there done that. Some people want the clubs with drugs being sold corridors, and people shooting up in the toilets. Grand. Or people want to 'freedom' of fights erupting in the club or outside. Good for you if you do. I don't. I've outgrown all that rubbish. I far prefer something with a bit of class, and some real money behind it.

Sounds boring. Then again I'm only a youngfella. Never understood the whole dress up to go out crowd, give me black jeans, a dark ****hole with cheap beer and progressive music any day!

Langston Wailing Sampler wrote: »

Great analysis here.

That man is a complete fuccking bean

[Deleted User]

Herb Powell wrote: »

Sounds boring. Then again I'm only a youngfella. Never understood the whole dress up to go out crowd, give me black jeans, a dark ****hole with cheap beer and progressive music any day!

Just different interests. When I was in my 20's I did the outdoor raves in Europe and the UK. Good fun back then but the appeal wore off completely by the time I reached my 30s. Now that I'm in my 40s, I go to clubs to dance somewhat, meet people, and find women for general dating outside the clubs. I barely drink at all anymore. Priorities have shifted.

Dr Brown

The thing about nightclubs in Ireland is that most of them are just late bars pretending to be "nightclubs".

Dr Brown

Langston Wailing Sampler wrote: »

Great analysis here.

He makes alot of good points but you don't think logically at 1am in the morning after you have had 8 to 10 pints and are looking to get in somewhere else.

Mister Vain

Dr Brown wrote: »

He makes alot of good points but you don't think logically at 1am in the morning after you have had 8 to 10 pints and are looking to get in somewhere into someone else.

FYP.

But yeah most of what he says in that video is true.

danko82

For me it is just the main way to meet women as I am single..
I am in my middle 30s, I don't really like nightclub, but not sure where to meet women.

The sad thing is when I meet someone, usually she is drunk, then the day after she doesn't remember or she has boyfriend, etc...
sad story...

I would like to meet women during the day..not easy though

Schwanz

For me I went to nightclubs to dance & get wasted.

Loved & still love dance music & been to some of the best clubs in the world to hear the finest Djs.

Godskitchen Birmingham
Space Ibiza
Red Box/Tripod Dublin
Temple Theater Dublin

You'll always get the smaller kips that people go to just to pull. Wasn't me.

Cee-Jay-Cee

OP I feel the exact same way, the thought of going to a nightclub horrifies me but when I was young (from about 17 to 32) I was out several nights a week and in a nightclub at least 2 nights every weekend. The same shīt happened back then as does now, the only difference was that I was part of it back then.

21Savage

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

OP I feel the exact same way, the thought of going to a nightclub horrifies me but when I was young (from about 17 to 32) I was out several nights a week and in a nightclub at least 2 nights every weekend. The same shīt happened back then as does now, the only difference was that I was part of it back then.

Do you look 60? How did you sustain that?

As you were 21 S

Mutant z

Ive never set foot in a nightclub and i really couldnt care less its just not my thing never has been and never will be.

cbreeze

danko82 wrote: »

For me it is just the main way to meet women as I am single..
I am in my middle 30s, I don't really like nightclub, but not sure where to meet women.

The sad thing is when I meet someone, usually she is drunk, then the day after she doesn't remember or she has boyfriend, etc...
sad story...

I would like to meet women during the day..not easy though

Join a club: book, hill walking, film, any kind of sports club, volunteer for charity work, anywhere there are sober ladies with a positive outlook on life.

21Savage

danko82 wrote: »

For me it is just the main way to meet women as I am single..
I am in my middle 30s, I don't really like nightclub, but not sure where to meet women.

The sad thing is when I meet someone, usually she is drunk, then the day after she doesn't remember or she has boyfriend, etc...
sad story...

I would like to meet women during the day..not easy though

2018 boyo. Read it and weep. This is the dating game right now.

As you were, 21S. x

worded

Deleted User wrote: »

Nightclubs in Ireland tend to be an extension of the bar scene. TBh I always felt that nightclubs in Ireland were still one step away from a school organized dance or such. Struggles to get to the bar, no table service, etc. Too much focus on getting drunk, being an asshole (for both genders) and puking/fighting at the end.

OP. Don't judge all nightclubs by your experiences in Ireland. There are incredibly good nightclubs in other countries, and honestly, the attitudes of the people you meet are often far better. Personally, I disliked nightclubs in Ireland/Europe but got to love them in Asia and the bigger cities in the US. Nightclubs in Eastern Europe are also heaps of fun if you don't behave like an idiot foreigner. I also preferred the nightclubs that cost a bit more, had professional staff and 'encouraged' people not to make trouble. Good music, quality alcohol, and people dress up to go out (rather than arriving in a tracksuit)

Lastly, there are nightclubs that cater to different kinds of people/music. Play around and find something that suits. I tend to still go to the nightclubs with the more trance/electronic/disco feel, or the more expensive jazz fusion house clubs. Older crowd for the most part and no trouble. I'm in my early 40s and I still enjoy it. It's not just a scene for 20 somethings.

Can you name your fav clubs ?

bodhrandude

OP shop around, don't just go to Coppers or commercial dance clubs, I remember a superb nightclub in Glasgow called Radio City, it suited my taste in music psychedelic sixties and indie rock club, you could hear Syd Barrett, the Velvet Underground, Jesus and the Mary Chain, Nick Cave and the like. The Victoria hotel in Galway used to have a great night where you could hear DnB and Jungle music and like another poster mentioned of the Cork club Sir Henry's, Galway also had their Sir Henry's in the nineties, The Castle, there was a superb night called the Reggae Room which predated Electric Picnic's Trenchtown, aaaah the memories. I also find that you should check out some of the music festivals in the summer such as Body & Soul and Electric Picnic, its better to look at the live DJs and mad electronica, the dance floors or grounds less restricted and the music wilder and more interesting. Twisted Pepper (Although I think thats closed now) and Button Factory always had more eclectic dance music acts. Even Dublin festivals like Beatyard and Forbidden Fruit are worth checking out not to mention their after parties too.

JohnCleary

Irish nightclubs are a joke.

Been to some amazing ones in Berlin and Bangkok

danko82

21Savage wrote: »

2018 boyo. Read it and weep. This is the dating game right now.

As you were, 21S. x

sorry I don't understand what you mean... what does boyo mean ?..

21Savage

danko82 wrote: »

sorry I don't understand what you mean... what does boyo mean ?..

Like buddy, pal, mate, chap, lad, brah, bruv, homie, homes.

As you were, 21S x

Mister Vain

I love dance music but hate dancing. It just feels really awkward regardless of how drunk I am. It's also hard to strike up a conversation with someone because of the noise.

I managed to get the shift once in a nightclub but that was part of a dare. A group of women were out on a hen night. One of them said to the other, "I dare you to shift the next lad that walks in the door" which just happened to be me. Then there was another time where a group of women handcuffed me to the table and grabbed my balls. That's about as good as it got for me in nightclubs.

Steve F

danko82 wrote: »

sorry I don't understand what you mean... what does boyo mean ?..

Think it's a Welsh saying?
Correct me if wrong

Cee-Jay-Cee

21Savage wrote: »

Do you look 60? How did you sustain that?

As you were 21 S

No thankfully not. I really don’t know how I managed it to be honest, there was a period of about 8 years from my mid 20’s to early 30’s where it was incessant drinking during the week and night clubs at the weekend. There was always someone looking to head out at night and I had nothing else to do so accepted every invitation to go out drinking. Near the end of that period I was burned out and didn’t go out for nearly a year choosing to lie on the sofa and watch tv all night instead but I gradually started going out sgain at weekends and going to clubs but limited to weekends and didn’t drink during the week. When I was 35 I stopped going out nearly completely, I’d had enough and I started going out with my wife to be and she didn’t drink and wasn’t a huge fan of nightclubs. Now I go out once or maybe twice a year and if I were told I could never go out again I don’t think I’d be that bothered.

the purple tin

Out of curiosity. What would be the most widely used drug in Irish niteclubs, apart from alcohol?

21Savage

the purple tin wrote: »

Out of curiosity. What would be the most widely used drug in Irish niteclubs, apart from alcohol?

Molly.

As you were, 21S x

the purple tin

21Savage wrote: »

Molly.

As you were, 21S x

That's a new one on me

FTA69

the purple tin wrote: »

That's a new one on me

Ecstasy.

I’d disagree with the above too by the way, unless you were in a club geared toward dance music then in all probability the drug of choice across the country would be cocaine.

brainfreeze

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

Alcohol is a depressant and I really feel it. I’m more anxious and stressed than I’ve been in quite some time and it’s due to overpriced alcohol.

Both stimulants and depressants can make you feel down when over indulged. However alcohol is not a called a depressant because it makes you feel depressed. A depressant is a chemical that slows down neurotransmission levels - it depresses your neurotransmitters. A stimulant speeds up neurotransmission levels - it stimulates your neurotransmitters. This is why someone on cocaine can talk a million miles a second, hop from topic to topic and do complex mental arithmetic better than his sober self, because his brain is literally running faster. Whereas too much alcohol (a depressant) you get the opposite effect, with parts of the brain seem to be shutting down (speech, motor skills etc, mental abilities).

Over indulging in either will give you anxiety the following day. However given your age, and I am assuming from your post you don't binge drink a lot in nightclubs, I don't think alcohol is causing you your stress and anxiety.

worded

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Small town niteclubs can be very bleak places.

You mean bleak and not in a good way right ....

the purple tin

FTA69 wrote: »

Ecstasy.

I’d disagree with the above too by the way, unless you were in a club geared toward dance music then in all probability the drug of choice across the country would be cocaine.

Yes seems like I haven't heard much about e over the last few years and the scandal of the head shops and legal highs has seemed to disappear too.
I remember when the onlt thing the bouncers had to watch out for was a sly naggin smuggled in to the disco or maybe an extremely rare joint.