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The Academies

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List of every player currently in one of the four Irish academies.

Loosehead Ed Byrne
Loosehead Jack O'Connell
Loosehead Kyle McCall
Loosehead Finlay Bealham
Loosehead James Cronin
Loosehead/Hooker James Treacy
Hooker Niall Scannell
Hooker Brian Byrne
Hooker David Doyle
Hooker Jonny Murphy
Hooker Kevin O'Byrne
Hooker Duncan Casey
Hooker James Rael
Tighthead Martin Moore
Tighthead Tadhg Furlong
Tighthead Conor Carey
Tighthead Jake Caulfield
Tighthead Jamie Dever
Tighthead Peter Reilly
Lock Cathal O'Flaherty
Lock Tadhg Beirne
Lock Gavin Thornbury
Lock Alan O'Connor
Lock James Simpson
Lock Daniel Qualter
Lock Ultan Dilane
Lock Philip Donnellan
Lock Brian Hayes
Flanker/Lock Ben Marshall
Flanker Dan Leavy
Flanker Conor Gilsenan
Flanker Josh Van Der Flier
Flanker Jordi Murphy
Flanker Conor Joyce
Flanker Neil Faloon
Flanker Aaron Conneely
Flanker David Heffernan
Flanker Jonathan Gardiner
Flanker Shane Buckley
Flanker Ryan Murphy
Eight Jack Conan
Eight Sean O'Connell
Eight Jack O'Donoghue
Scrum Half Luke McGrath
Scrum Half Marcus Walsh
Scrum Half Kieran Marmion(may have signed a non academy contract recently)
Scrum Half Brian Haugh
Outhalf Cathal Marsh
Outhalf Noel Reid
Outhalf Stuart Olding
Outhalf Jack Carty
Outhalf Tadgh Leader
Outhalf Johnny Holland
Centre Cian Bohane
Centre Jordan Coughlan
Centre Colm O'Shea
Centre Chris Farrell
Centre Corey Hircock
Centre Harry McNulty
Centre/Fullback Robbie Henshaw(may have signed a non academy contract recently)
Wing Andrew Boyle
Wing Sam Coughlan Murray
Wing Conor Finn
Wing Steve Macauley
Wing Ronan O'Mahony
Wing/Fullback Darren Hudson
Wing/Fullback Darren Moroney
Fullback Mikey Sherlock*(not sure about his status)
Fullback Rory Scholes
Fullback Peter Nelson
Fullback Ricky Andrew
Fullback Shane Layden
Fullback Darragh Leader
Fullback Darren Sweetnam

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Bridge93

Which of the Ulster/Munster/Connacht systems would be deemed to have the best talent in their ranks currently?

irishfan9

Bridge93 wrote: »

Which of the Ulster/Munster/Connacht systems would be deemed to have the best talent in their ranks currently?

pretty close between Munster/Ulster... hard to call

The Lost Sheep

MDunne14 wrote: »

Not many of them ballinasloe lads actually play for ballinasloe they all are in garbally in fifth or sixth, Colm Reilly has moved to Buccs in last year also as most ballinasloe lads do

They do. They may be in Garbally but will also be playing club rugby in Ballinasloe/Buccs

Bridge93 wrote: »

Which of the Ulster/Munster/Connacht systems would be deemed to have the best talent in their ranks currently?

Ulster and Munster might be sightly ahead of Connacht but Leinster arent definitely ahead of both Ulster/Munster

irishfan9

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

They do. They may be in Garbally but will also be playing club rugby in Ballinasloe/Buccs

Ulster and Munster might be sightly ahead of Connacht but Leinster arent definitely ahead of both Ulster/Munster

slightly ahead of Connacht?

They are well ahead.

Mr Shikadance

irishfan9 wrote: »

Mr Shikadance wrote: »

I don't suppose you have similar views or details on the Connacht academy and sub-academy?

Not sure if you have that view or just relating to Leinster's?

Thanks in advance.

MS

Connacht Academy

Year 3
Conan O'Donnell(Prop/Buccaneers)
Conor Kyne(Prop/Galwegians)

Year 2
Conor Kenny(Prop/Buccaneers)
Peter Claffey(Lock/Buccaneers)
Cillian Gallagher(Lock/Corinthians)
Stephen Kerins(Scrumhalf/Corinthians)
Adam Leavy(Back three/Lansdowne)
Matthew Byrne(Back three/Terenure)

Year 1
Matthew Burke(Prop/Corinthians)
Paul Boyle(Backrow/Buccaneers)
Sean Masterson(Backrow/Corinthians)
Harley Fox(Backrow/?)
Ryan Feehily(Scrumhalf/Sligo)
Luke Carty(Outhalf/Buccaneers)
Kieran Joyce(Centre/Corinthians)
Jordan Conroy(Back three/Buccaneers)
Colm de Buitléar(Back three/An Ghaeltacht/Corinthians)

Connacht Sub Academy

Ryan Lomas(Prop/Buccaneers)
Brian Diffley(Prop/Buccaneers)
Kuba Woitijowicz(Prop/Sligo)
Liam Winnett(Prop/Buccanners)

Callum Torpey(Hooker/Exile)
Dylan Tierney(Hooker/Corinthians)

Niall Murray(2nd Row/Buccaneers)
Iarlaith Morrin Laheen(2nd Row/Galwegians)
Darragh Murray(2nd Row/Buccaneers)

Neal Moylett(Backrow/Ballina)
Christian Nielson(Backrow/Sligo)
Oisin McCormack(Backrow/Ballinasloe)
Cian Huxford(Backrow/Corinthians)
Andrew Murphy(Backrow/Blackrock)

Richie Fahy(Scrumhalf/Blackrock)
Colm Reilly(Scrumhalf/Ballinasloe)
Ryan Feehily(Scrumhalf/Sligo)
Rory Gaffney(Scrumhalf/Galwegians)

Morgan Codyre(Outhalf/Galwegians)
Diarmuid Codyre(OuthalfGalwegians)
Dylan Prendergast(Outhalf/Westport)
Cian Treacy(Outhalf/Ballinasloe)

Shane Jennings(Outside Back/Ballinasloe)
Saul O'Carroll(Outside Back/Buccaneers)
Mark Balaski(Outside Back/Castlebar)
Corey Reid(Outside Back/Buccaneers)
Conor O'Shaughnessy(Outside Back/Galwegians)
Hugh Lane(Outside Back/Galwegians)
Michael O'Reilly(Outside Back/Corinthians)

Thank you!

Any idea who the next Robbie Henshaw types might be?

I have heard good things about the Murray brothers at 2nd row.

Also Cian Huxford.

You also seem to rate the Connacht Academy as the weakest in the country. Although it has produced reasonably well for us. Is that down largely to the smaller player pool and much weaker schools game?

Cheers.

irishfan9

Mr Shikadance wrote: »

Thank you!

Any idea who the next Robbie Henshaw types might be?

I have heard good things about the Murray brothers at 2nd row.

Also Cian Huxford.

You also seem to rate the Connacht Academy as the weakest in the country. Although it has produced reasonably well for us. Is that down largely to the smaller player pool and much weaker schools game?

Cheers.

the underage system is the weakest as there is less player playing the game etc.

A lot of homegrown players have went through the Connacht academy in recent years and not been deemed good enough for Connacht senior team.

in terms of potential star players from connacht system - Cillian Gallagher is by far the most obvious candidate.

a back maybe Hugh Lane.

The Lost Sheep

Mr Shikadance wrote: »

Thank you!

Any idea who the next Robbie Henshaw types might be?

I have heard good things about the Murray brothers at 2nd row.

Also Cian Huxford.

You also seem to rate the Connacht Academy as the weakest in the country. Although it has produced reasonably well for us. Is that down largely to the smaller player pool and much weaker schools game?

Cheers.

Cant really say anything like who will be next Robbie Hensahaw as he's as once in generation style player
Connacht have smaller playing pool and the schools dont have resources of schools elsewhere. But the clubs and schools work together far better than schools and clubs anywhere else in the country which is a great help to player development..

Mr Shikadance

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Mr Shikadance wrote: »

Thank you!

Any idea who the next Robbie Henshaw types might be?

I have heard good things about the Murray brothers at 2nd row.

Also Cian Huxford.

You also seem to rate the Connacht Academy as the weakest in the country. Although it has produced reasonably well for us. Is that down largely to the smaller player pool and much weaker schools game?

Cheers.

Cant really say anything like who will be next Robbie Hensahaw as he's as once in generation style player
Connacht have smaller playing pool and the schools dont have resources of schools elsewhere. But the clubs and schools work together far better than schools and clubs anywhere else in the country which is a great help to player development..

No I can appreciate that. I guess Gallagher is the next big hope.

We do seem to offload far more in the academy in the last few years, which does support the feeling that the pool may not be suitably strong enough at times.

I suppose too we see evidence in u19/ u20 national squads.

As long as every avenue and resource is being utilised that is all we can ask. Huge competition with the GAA.

ClanofLams

The Connacht Academy is the healthiest it has been in a fair while imo. Gallagher is definitely the standout but out of the 17 other Academy guys, would be hopeful of 5/6 having long term careers with Connacht.

MDunne14

Jack O’Mahony glenstal/Shannon is also in the connacht sub academy and Irish u19 squad

case885

MDunne14 wrote: »

Jack O’Mahony glenstal/Shannon is also in the connacht sub academy and Irish u19 squad

Overlooked by Munster or is he a Connacht man boarding?

MDunne14

case885 wrote: »

MDunne14 wrote: »

Jack O’Mahony glenstal/Shannon is also in the connacht sub academy and Irish u19 squad

Overlooked by Munster or is he a Connacht man boarding?

Was in the Munster schools extended squad last year and after a good sct campaign was overlooked by Munster 19s.. went onto score 3 tries in 3 interpros for connacht

irishfan9

ClanofLams wrote: »

The Connacht Academy is the healthiest it has been in a fair while imo. Gallagher is definitely the standout but out of the 17 other Academy guys, would be hopeful of 5/6 having long term careers with Connacht.

Who are they?

Bazzo

irishfan9 wrote: »

Who are they?

Plenty of players who could make it... Gallagher, Claffey, Kerins, O'Donnell, Fox, Carty, Conroy, Masterson

irishfan9

Bazzo wrote: »

Plenty of players who could make it... Gallagher, Claffey, Kerins, O'Donnell, Fox, Carty, Conroy, Masterson

well all the academy players should have the potential to make it...

Bazzo

irishfan9 wrote: »

well all the academy players should have the potential to make it...

Off the top of my head those are obviously the ones I consider to have the best chance...

irishfan9

Bazzo wrote: »

Off the top of my head those are obviously the ones I consider to have the best chance...

I'd rate Boyle well ahead of Fox.

Probably agree about the rest.

irishfan9

Munster Academy Update

Props
JP Phelan(Year 3/Garryowen) - released from academy earlier this season. Trending: N/A
Liam O'Connor(Year 3/Cork) - regular first team player prior to injury. Trending: UP
Joey Conway(Year 1/UL Bohs) - injury interrupted season. Trending: Even
Rob O'Donovan(Year 1/UCC) - joined academy earlier this season. Trending: UP

Hooker
Vincent O'Brien(Year 2/Cork Con) - hasn't played much this season. Trending: Down

Locks
Sean O'Connor(Year 2/Garryowen) - has impressed for senior team when given opportunities. Trending: UP
Fineen Wycherley(Year 2/Young Munster) - quieter season than expected. Trending: Even

Back Row
Gavin Coombes(Year 2/Young Munster) - quieter season than expected. Trending: Even
John Foley(Year 2/Shannon) - injury delayed season, not progressing as quickly as expected. Trending: Even
Jack O'Sullivan(Year 1/UCC) - injury delayed season, how involved he will be with Ireland u20 up for debate. Trending: Even

9's
Jack Stafford(Year 1/Shannon) - made senior team debut. Trending: Up
Craig Casey(Year 1/Shannon) - injured all season. Trending: N/A

10's
Conor Fitzgerald(Year 1/Shannon) - having a strong season for Shannon. Trending: UP
Alan Tynan(Year 1/Young Munster) - injury delayed season, not progressing as quickly as expected. Trending: Even

Centre
Shane Daly(Year 2/Cork Con) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, not making much of an impact with Munster. Trending: Down
Alex McHenry(Year 1/Cork Con) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, not making much of an impact with Munster. Trending: Even

Back Three
Calvin Nash(Year 2/Young Munster) - has played for senior team and registered for europe. Trending: UP
Jack Power(Year 1/Clontarf) - hard to know what to expect from him at Munster. Trending: Even
Liam Coombes(Year 1/Garryowen) - strong AIL season for Garryowen. Trending: Even
Daniel Hurley(Year 1/Young Munster) - injury delayed season, how involved he will be with Ireland u20 up for debate. Trending: Even
James McCarthy(Year 1/UL Bohs) - hasn't played due to injury. Trending: N/A

Bazzo

irishfan9 wrote: »

I'd rate Boyle well ahead of Fox.

Probably agree about the rest.

Forgot about Boyle, good prospect alright. I've a feeling there are high hopes for Fox, I think he was given a three year contract rather than the new standard rolling one year ones.

Mr Shikadance

Bazzo wrote: »

Forgot about Boyle, good prospect alright. I've a feeling there are high hopes for Fox, I think he was given a three year contract rather than the new standard rolling one year ones.

Has anyone seen Fox play?

What club is he playing with?

irishfan9

Bazzo wrote: »

Forgot about Boyle, good prospect alright. I've a feeling there are high hopes for Fox, I think he was given a three year contract rather than the new standard rolling one year ones.

Boyle is actually playing for Connacht and captaining the Eagles.

Fox wasn't good enough in Oz.

Wegians89

irishfan9 wrote: »

Boyle is actually playing for Connacht and captaining the Eagles.

Fox wasn't good enough in Oz.

The aussies were pretty annoyed he left I think, him leaving isn't odd with all the sh*t going on in Australian rugby and franchises being closed up

ClanofLams

irishfan9 wrote: »

Who are they?

O’Donnell
Kenny
Boyle
Masterson
Carty

There’s plenty of prospects amongst the rest too.

MDunne14

Conroy won’t he’s great in space going forward but won’t get that space at pro rugby and his defence positional awareness and skills are average to be honest.. very late to be joining year 1 of the academy at 22/23

MDunne14

O’Donnell has gone back big time since underage performs poor in ail most weeks

Wegians89

MDunne14 wrote: »

O’Donnell has gone back big time since underage performs poor in ail most weeks

Is he not just back from a pretty long term injury? Could it just be a bit of injury rustiness?

The Lost Sheep

MDunne14 wrote: »

Conroy won’t he’s great in space going forward but won’t get that space at pro rugby and his defence positional awareness and skills are average to be honest.. very late to be joining year 1 of the academy at 22/23

He only look up rugby at 18 so joining academy is right call because he simply doesnt have enough rugby in him and can develop the defence, postional awareness and skills. His ability going forward is worth the wait and the work.

FACECUTTR

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

He only look up rugby at 18 so joining academy is right call because he simply doesnt have enough rugby in him and can develop the defence, postional awareness and skills. His ability going forward is worth the wait and the work.

Could be another Adeoloukan

MDunne14

Potentially but imo the academy contract was more to get him into a professional enironment to peak for 7s as he only started playing rugby a few years ago unlike other 7s players who have played age grade for provinces and a lot of them in the academy .. has only played once this year in ail

irishfan9

Conroy won't make it.
And unfortunately I think that injury has affected O'Donnell, now he is very much a doubt IMO