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AnPost - Envelope slit open (searched for cash?)

fleet

Just received a bunch of Christmas cards.

One envelope is quite obviously slit along the side seam with a razor, as one may do to extract cash.

Dublin Mail Centre
15.12.17
20:24:58
16339498

No cash was mailed with it, so no loss, but if this is as I suspect then it won't be the only example.

Anyone else receive similar this year?
Post the Mail Centre, Date, Time and Serial Number (on the franking) and we'll see if there is pattern.

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tiredblondie

monnies wrote: »

i beg to differ
from what i know people only get into An Post by word of mouth, and there is no way somebody would betray that trust,
if the post was tampered with it was before it arrived in Ireland

Not true - i temped for An Post a good few years back through an agency!

Avatar MIA

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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It's terrible. Those defending them should be named and shamed. Shur, you might do it there while you're at it.

Fred Swanson

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Mrcaramelchoc

fleet wrote: »

Just received a bunch of Christmas cards.

One envelope is quite obviously slit along the side seam with a razor, as one may do to extract cash.

Dublin Mail Centre
15.12.17
20:24:58
16339498

No cash was mailed with it, so no loss, but if this is as I suspect then it won't be the only example.

Anyone else receive similar this year?
Post the Mail Centre, Date, Time and Serial Number (on the franking) and we'll see if there is pattern.

so you lost nothing, nothing was taken and your telling us there was nothing in the envelope anyway.
are you for real?have you nothing better to do, seriously.

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Nekarsulm wrote: »

"wearing a short skirt, should have taken responsibility".

No, it'd be akin to lighting a firecracker in your hand and cry foul when it goes off and you lose fingers.

Nekarsulm

Avatar MIA wrote: »

If you act against advice and you get caught out then you are partially at fault. It's called taking responsibility.

Jeez, I know that, but silly me for putting temptation in the way of a saintly staff member of An Post.
That's the line that gets trotted out every time some girl gets attacked, "wearing a short skirt, should have taken responsibility".

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Nekarsulm wrote: »

If it's "victimhood" to complain about theft, then I'm all for it.
If it's the the victim that's to blame, does this extend to other forms of theft, trespass, assault etc?

Not surprising that professionals use the DX system rather than An Post registered post.

If you act against advice and you get caught out then you are partially at fault. It's called taking responsibility.

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Digital Solitude wrote: »

How you can justify that being okay is beyond me.

Look up the word justify and read my comments again, because you certainly haven't used it correctly in context.

Anyway, the general consensus was that the slit in the OP's post was not man made.

Nekarsulm

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Common sense and cop on are not exclusive to An Post counter advice.

But, continue to wallow in victimhood if it brings comfort.

If it's "victimhood" to complain about theft, then I'm all for it.
If it's the the victim that's to blame, does this extend to other forms of theft, trespass, assault etc?

Not surprising that professionals use the DX system rather than An Post registered post.

And is it not worthy of comment that off all the letters I ever sent, it's the one and only that had cash in it, that vanished into the system?
Even An Post, who stressed to me the number of pieces of mail they handle daily ( over a million, they claim) must admit that the odds of a postal worker happening upon that particular envelope is such, that some type of technology must have been used to pinpoint it.

Fred Swanson

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Digital Solitude

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Common sense and cop on are not exclusive to An Post counter advice.

But, continue to wallow in victimhood if it brings comfort.

Sure look, I suppose if the aul fella down the road was slicing open your post and having a looky at what's going on, he's only having a nose, sure it's only human nature

The OPs problem isn't that money was taken, because none was sent, it's that the letter was opened an searched. How you can justify that being okay is beyond me.

Surely the duty of care is with an post employees here, their job is to move post from one location to another, under no circumstances should they be opening post for any reason, what's the stop postmen opening letters for a nose then so? Sure it's your own fault for moving sensitive data through the system there too I guess.

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Nekarsulm wrote: »

If you don't work for An Post, you should seriously consider it.
You have the corporate line down pat.

Common sense and cop on are not exclusive to An Post counter advice.

But, continue to wallow in victimhood if it brings comfort.

Nekarsulm

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Or idiot blaming.

An Post tell you not to put cash in the post. If you do it and it goes missing you can blame human nature, but not An Post.

If you don't work for An Post, you should seriously consider it.
You have the corporate line down pat.

[Deleted User]

I have no doubts that some postmen will search for money. Equally I have no doubts that if he cut an envelope to search, he would not let it get delivered.

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Digital Solitude wrote: »

Isn't this what they call victim blaming?

Or idiot blaming.

An Post tell you not to put cash in the post. If you do it and it goes missing you can blame human nature, but not An Post.

amtc

Oh I totally agree. It's in the An Post Guide, part of which I have more than a passing familiarity with.

By not receiving a reply within guidelines there may be a compensation payment. If you really want to raise the slitting issue the ocr on the back will give machine time and date

Digital Solitude

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Or he's a thought. Take An Post's advice, don't be stupid enough to put cash in the post.

But, if you insist, register and insure it.

Isn't this what they call victim blaming?

Regardless of if you're stupid enough to put cash in the post or not, letters absolutely should not be cut open.

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amtc wrote: »

Absolutely no point in interviewing a post master as retail and mails networks are run independently.

My advice is to write to the Customer Advocate at An Post. Customer.advocate@anpost.ie and also ask that it be referred to the Investigation Branch .

Or here's a thought. Take An Post's advice, don't be stupid enough to put cash in the post.

But, if you insist, register and insure it.

amtc

Absolutely no point in interviewing a post master as retail and mails networks are run independently.

My advice is to write to the Customer Advocate at An Post. Customer.advocate@anpost.ie and also ask that it be referred to the Investigation Branch .

Nekarsulm

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057802390

An Post didn't respond go my last letter on this matter (after telling me that no trace of the lost envelope could be found) so I made a complaint to the Gardai.
The Guard took notes of relevant dates etc, and said that she would interview the Post Master in the office concerned, so that's about all I can do really.

Buckfast W

CeilingFly wrote:

everyone seems to think there are hundreds of people in an post sorting mail like elves.

CeilingFly wrote:

99% of mail is sorted by auto reader machines and only until they reach the local delivery office are they handled - and usually the final sorting is done by the post person delivering the mail.

CeilingFly wrote:

Only badly written addresses that are indecipherable by the auto readers get sorted by hand.

This isn't necessarily true, everything that comes through the Air mail unit is sorted by hand before being sent to the DMC ,and I mean everything, every letter every package, they don't have machines up there so they take on temporary staff to deal with the high volumes over Christmas.

In the big mail centres like Dublin and Portlaiose most of the stuff is done by machine.

stronglikebull

monnies wrote: »

no way any postman/woman would throw his.her job and reputation away for a few quid

monnies wrote: »

i beg to differ
from what i know people only get into An Post by word of mouth, and there is no way somebody would betray that trust,
if the post was tampered with it was before it arrived in Ireland

Wrong. It happens quite often, and the Gardai have been involved on several occasions investigating theft within the post office.

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/postman-arrested-suspicion-stealing-childrens-3644484

https://www.independent.ie/regionals/fingalindependent/news/former-sorting-office-worker-admits-to-theft-31440581.html

While any report may not get your stolen post recovered, and it looks to an individual like they don't do anything, they actually do investigate claims of theft. Evidence can be hard to find though, and take a long time to garner, so don't expect an immediate result.

landmarkjohn

In case anyone in An Post is interested when my daughter got married in 2010 someone in the mail chain did very well out of it. Suspect local as there where a couple of items went missing. Very north west Mayo.

amtc

What bit of 'do not send money in the post' do you not get!

Mr. Incognito

Anyone who has any experience of An Post knows not to send cash in the Post.

It is inevitable in any large organisation that there will be some people who are desperate for cash and will go to any lengths to get it be they suffering from financial woes, addiction or are common thieves.

There are people here with first hand knowledge I am sure that dont want to say anything defamatory on a public forum but common sense would tell you not to send cash through An Post.

ArthurG

monnies wrote: »

i beg to differ
from what i know people only get into An Post by word of mouth, and there is no way somebody would betray that trust,
if the post was tampered with it was before it arrived in Ireland

Yep clearly foreigners, no dacent Irish person would do such a thing....

yosser hughes wrote: »

Twice in the last two years my Mother has sent cash in birthday cards and they were never received.

Money in the post? Might as well fashion it into a paper plane and hope it gets there.

Victor

yosser hughes wrote: »

Twice in the last two years my Mother has sent cash in birthday cards and they were never received.

You'd think she would have stopped the first time.

11wingnut

Deleted User wrote: »

Every few years there is a story about someone from An Post arrested for theft. It's not unheard of.

If you think it has been tampered with then report it to An Post. They take reports seriously. Venting about it online and not reporting it will achieve nothing.

Of course it could just be a burst envelope from an overfilled sack. Reporting your suspicion is not going to do any harm.

Seriously my arse.

Fred Swanson

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archer22

According to the RTE piece on them last night An Post have Dogs that are trained to sniff out cash.