Doltanian wrote: » How about a proper justice system and just execute the scum, one bullet to the head and bill their family’s for it. There is no justice in Ireland, the majority of the Gardai are corrupt and the judges are in the side of the criminals and the parasitic legal profession, if any thieves come to me I’ll deal with them myself, and if anyone of my family were murdered etc I would execute them myself. Until sentencing gets longer and more prisons are built and bring back hanging and the death sentence then or is a complete waste of time. People can’t be rehabilitated they need to be put down and anyone with 10+ convictions should be killed or 3+ serious convictions. The liberal left wing politics is the biggest threat to Ireland, all drug addicts around the country should be rounded up and taken into prison and executed. If there was a proper harsh justice system things would quickly change for the better. Look at places like Dubai and Singapore to see what zero tolerance can achieve.
Dr Crayfish wrote: » Well aren't you lucky you weren't born into squalor with abusive alcoholic or junkie parents? There but for the grace of God go I.
Roger Hassenforder wrote: » Maybe theres an argument for somehow preventing such individuals from reproducing and continuing the cycle. If we stop incentivising reproduction by people thst are unable and/or unwillling to raise children. Ive more sympathy for a victim of crime than the perpetrator. But thats just me.
Doltanian wrote: » . If there was a proper harsh justice system things would quickly change for the better. Look at places like Dubai and Singapore to see what zero tolerance can achieve.
hurler32 wrote: » So let lowlifes away with committing crime after crime which is whats presently happening?...
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Repealing the 8th, you mean?
Wanderer78 wrote: » Roughly 60% of inmates re-offend upon release, so I'd say, it probably, overall, wouldn't do much. Out of sight, out of mind isn't working. Time to try something different
spindex wrote: » Put them up again a wall, one bullet, bang bang. All over
splinter65 wrote: » No introducing a benefits cap will work fine. SW medical card HAP for you and your 2 kids. Have more kids support them yourself. Different rules for people left parenting alone by a bereavement.
Wanderer78 wrote: » Probably wouldn't do much to reduce crime rates, might even increase them
Wanderer78 wrote: » and that solves our crime issues by????
Potential-Monke wrote: » I've been saying it for years, and it's the one thing that annoyed me so much when I was a Garda. One of my early experiences in AGS was when we used to transport prisoners convicted in court to a custodial sentence. We would have bring the prisoner down to the jail, and return back to the station. Where I was based, this was usually at least 2 hours away. We brought one lad to Cork prisoner one afternoon after he was convicted to 3 weeks for a burglary (nothing taken, no damage, but previous convictions for the same). We got there at around 13.30. Dropped off the prisoner, got something quick to eat (as no lunch that day due to the escort), and were coming back into our station area, and there was pal walking back into the city from the train station. Stopped and asked him 'WTF!?', and he said they had no room, gave him €20 and a train ticket, and he was back the same time as us! So yes, we should have at least 1 more prison. I wanted Spike Island re-opened for high profile criminals, but instead they made it into a tourist attraction. There is not enough room to keep repeat offenders in, and they end up back on the street and doing the same as usual, knowing that it will take a lot or something really serious to land actual prison time, so the lovely criminals of this country commit crime knowing this, and laugh at the Gardaí who are constantly arresting them over and over for the same things, even while out on bail. So yes, more prisons should be a priority. I'd rather they be locked up and off the streets, rather than swanning around while on bail, still committing crime. It's a joke. And concurrent sentencing... There should be no such thing! Gowl the other day, out on bail for a serious offence, committed the same offence again, and got a concurrent sentence... I know rehabilitation is the key, but this country can't do that right yet, so until then, more prisons, longer sentences. Out of sight, out of mind is right in this case.
hurler32 wrote: » What's your solution ? Continue as is with criminals etc laughing at the law abiding ?
Roger Hassenforder wrote: » I tbink i recall reading a report that mentioned the recidivism rate among offenders subjected to capital punishment was almost 0%.
wakka12 wrote: » Why make spike island a prison again? its historic and interesting, leave it for the public. Theres plenty of land around to build some ugly looking modern prison to keep criminals in
Dr Crayfish wrote: » Well, the way things are now it's inconvenient for educated hard working people to have kids but convenient for poor people on welfare to have kids. It looks like your Antos and Shania's will far outnumber Rossas and Sorchas in the future.
Dr Crayfish wrote: » But what happens if the mother goes and has 5 kids, and she can't afford to look after them, starving etc? Do we just let them die? I agree these idiots shouldn't be having loads of kids, but it's not the children's fault they were born so should they really have to suffer based on their parents poor choices?
Omackeral wrote: » Death penalty is grand until you kill someone who's actually innocent. People are acquitted and have convictions overturned. Can't do that for a dead person.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Eh... no, it won't. "Have more kids, support them yourself" only works if you can be 100% sure neither the parents nor the kids will resort to crime out of desperation if nothing else because the State isn't supporting them. Can you be sure of that?
splinter65 wrote: » No introducing a benefits cap will work fine.
Roger Hassenforder wrote: » It applies to everyone not on social welfare... Your mentality is almost akin to paying them off, and still no guarantee they wont resort to crime! When did we stop being responsible for our mickeys and vags?
MrPudding wrote: » If you are one of the people that think we should bring back the death penalty, public floggings, slopping out, slavery for criminals, and longer sentences for any crimes, then you need to ask yourself if you are actually interested reducing crime and recidivism and improving society (as opposed to simply punishing people) because those things are not compatible. MrP
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » My "menality" is covered in original post: allow abortion. Now, you want answer the question posed in the post you replied to or accept your idea won't work?"Have more kids, support them yourself" only works if you can be 100% sure neither the parents nor the kids will resort to crime out of desperation if nothing else because the State isn't supporting them. Can you be sure of that?
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