kennethsmyth wrote: » While you are at it contact a solicitor for defamation, as they have told a third party (gardai) that you have stolen when its a lie. Sue ncps and get justice for all!
kingtut wrote: » I'd be putting in a counter claim that the clamper touched your property without your authorization and caused damage to the car as a result of placing the clamp. I'm curious if it would be easier to pick the locks on these than to remove the clamp the way the OP did?
Brian? wrote: » You’re letting them win? There is no way in hell you’ll be convicted of anything here, you need to talk to a higher ranked Garda.
munkyldn wrote: » Believe me, I’m fully aware of that fact, I also just want this done and over with from the point when the gardai showed up at my parents address. Just gonna chalk this one up to NCPS and their underhand ways
GreeBo wrote: » You "stealing" the clamp has nothing to do with the de-clamp fee, thats what everyone is trying to tell you. Tell the garda that you have already attempted to return the clamp to the owner and they refused it. Send an email or registered letter to the owners stating that you have already attempted to return it and where/how they can retrieve it. Absolutely do not pay a declamp fee....you did not avail of any such service.
munkyldn wrote: » I know guys, this is ridiculous and it makes me sick. But the facts are this guy took a photo of me in possession of the clamp, made a statement to the garda that I stole the clamp and I’m in possession of the clamp until I can return it. I think it’s pretty sealed up against me. I don’t want a conviction over €120.
Ubbquittious wrote: » This is unbelievable codology, the guard telling you to pay the fee to NCPS. Their statement wouldn't hold any water once the clamp has been returned to them, just make sure you have proof that they got it back or else they could sneakily quietly pretend they didn't get it back.
beer enigma wrote: » How did you take the wheel off with a clamp on it ? to a layman dropping the balljoint from the lower arm sounds like a garage job rather than a parking spot diy job....sorry just curious
munkyldn wrote: » I was clamped by NCPS on private property yesterday. I was visiting a friend who lives in an apartment block and I parked in a space reserved for another apartment but they have no car. Im pretty sure of my rights with regards unauthorised clampers so I took off my wheel and dropped the balljoint from the lower arm and slid the chain off. No cutting or damage to the car or clamp. The NCPS van pulled up just as I was tightening my wheel nuts back up. I told the guy the the clamp wasn't damaged. He didn't get out of the van, he just told me that I'd have to return it to their Dublin HQ address, took a sneaky photo of me on his phone and drove off. What am I supposed to do with this thing? Is it my responsibility or not to return it, especially when their guy was there? What was the point of what he did, could he claim that I stole the clamp or something?
munkyldn wrote: » No point tbh. The guard told me that the NCPS guy would only withdraw the statement if they got the clamp back with the €120 Euro and I’ve to show the receipt to the garda. Pretty screwed I think.
TheChizler wrote: » You are in your ***. Talk to the station superintendent. The Garda is trying to enforce a civil dispute with threat of criminal punishment. Email NCPS asking them where you can drop in the clamp (locally) so you've proof of trying to return their property.
munkyldn wrote: » Exactly, its a "declamping fee". I didn't need their services to declamp so why would I pay it? Think I will now to prevent this blowing up much more though
Schorpio wrote: » Ha, the brazen cheek of them. And I don't know what the Garda is playing at telling you to pay the declamping fee. They are claiming theft of property. You're countering saying that you have the clamp (undamaged) and attempted to give it back to them but they refused. Tell the Garda you are more than happy to return their property in it's undamaged state as you didn't want it in the first place. They get their clamp back - case closed. No need for the 'fee' ffs.
munkyldn wrote: » Update to this, An Garda Siochana have showed up to my parents address ( where the car is registered to) and told me over the phone that the employee has put in a statement claiming theft of the clamp. The guard advised that I return the clamp along with the declamping fee or face a summons for theft. What can I do here?
Tzardine wrote: » You have no responsibility to deliver it to them. Send the company an email and tell them that it is available for collection by arrangement and that you will keep it for 30 days, after which point you will assume they do not want it back and it will be disposed of. You already made one attempt to return it to the van driver, make that clear in the email.
mickdw wrote: » There is a thread here somewhere where a chap had a bit of Craic over contacting them telling them he had their clamp and would be charging storage etc. They eventually said case closed. Might be worth a read.
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