innuendo141 wrote: » Anyone get their album delivered yet?
Graham1978 wrote: » Yes Recieved it yesterday
Graham1978 wrote: » CD arrived yesterday. What's the deal with the presale for tickets when you ordered the album ?
johnpatrick81 wrote: » Yeah, I've very little faith in them and their absolutely turgid online system. Livenation can suck my balls.
thegreengoblin wrote: » . Or, in the case of There is A Light, a reheat from SOI.
johnpatrick81 wrote: » You know that’s intentional right? That SOI and SOE are companion albums? 13-song for someone, iris-lights of home, volcano-American soul. I’m sure there’s more direct links but it’s 100% intentional and they have said so as far back as 2014.
johnpatrick81 wrote: » Sooooo.....you understand the concept.....yet still call it lazy......Fair enough!!
thegreengoblin wrote: » Listened to it a lot over the last few days and I can only come to the conclusion that it's a poor album by U2 standards. The signs were already there with the songs that had been released and even though there are some very good moments there's just not enough quality to save the album. I'm not getting into the 'artists generally go into decline as they get older' argument as that's just ridiculous, it's not an argument at all. People lose their edge, that's only natural. And their truly great work came a long time ago, everyone realises that. But age and supreme wealth is not a barrier to making great music. The problem for me is that there are too many songs that sound like they're reheated leftovers from ATYCLB or HTDAAB. Or, in the case of There is A Light, a reheat from SOI. Most of the songs here don't engage me, they don't make me sit up and pay attention. They just pass me by and I don't find myself thinking I want to hear many of them again. I think it's fairly obvious that U2's biggest weakness is Bono and has been for quite some time. He used to be a really brilliant lyric writer. But around the time of ATYCLB he became submerged in his own earnestness and self-regard. And he hasn't been able to come up for air since. Some of the lyrics here are appalling such as this from Red Flag Day [I]Not even news today/So many lost in the sea last night/ One word that the sea can't say/Is no, no, no, no[/I] Or 'In the rubble of Aleppo/Flowers blooming in the shadows' from Summer of Love. And that's before you even mention 'refu-Jesus' from American Soul. :pac: Reading them is embarrassing enough but hearing them sung is worse. We never hear any instrumentals from the band anymore. I'd suggest they try it out on the next album. Postitives for me are: Love Is All We Have Left, it's an interesting choice as an opener and works very well. Lights of Home is decent although the big singalong fade-out, which is great in itself, sounds like it's welded on to the song. The Little Things is excellent. Book of Your Heart should be on the album proper, it's too good to be just a bonus track. I like it more and more every time I hear it. But that's really it for me. Four songs. I take no joy whatsoever in saying any of this as U2 have brought me countless hours of life-affirming music across several decades. There aren't many bands I can say that about. I still hope they can raise their game again but there's very little sign of this happening.
johnpatrick81 wrote: » So it shouldn’t have come as a surprise if you were familiar with the concept 3 year delayed reaction of disappointment
Tomas White Suspect wrote: » Disagree massively with the bold and underlined part. That is one my favourite parts on the entire album. It's a great part of the song and the song is one of my favourites. Reminds me of a song straight from the War era of the band Red Flag Day The Blackout Love Is Bigger Than Anything In It's Way GOOYOW Little Things They're all top tracks to me. I'd even lump a large part of American Soul in there too. I absolutely love the groove of the verses in that song. Absolutely top notch. Summer Of Love...It's a One Republic song, or part one. They were working on that last year from what I gather.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UWZxGRR12o Again, I know the guy produced it. Maybe he gave them the idea. Producers do that. It's their job. Eno, Lanois, Flood, Lilywhite have all done it. It's what a producer is there for. Couldn't tell you other than that though
thegreengoblin wrote: » Those lyrics are toe curlingly bad.
Tomas White Suspect wrote: » "A Mole, digging in a hole" "You know some places are like your Auntie,but there's no place like Miami" "An intellectual tortoise" "Hot as a hair dryer in your face/hot as a handbag and a can of mace" "Password. You. Enter here. Right now." I beg to differ that they're not Not getting what's embarrassing about "In the rubble of Aleppo/Flowers blooming in the shadows" tbh
thegreengoblin wrote: » Agree to disagree so! With the exception of Miami, those lyrics you quoted are from and after when the quality began to drop, in the late 90s as I was pointing out. Previous to that he was brilliant at writing lyrics.
Tomas White Suspect wrote: » Summer Of Love...It's a One Republic song, or part one. They were working on that last year from what I gather.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UWZxGRR12o Again, I know the guy produced it. Maybe he gave them the idea. Producers do that. It's their job. Eno, Lanois, Flood, Lilywhite have all done it. It's what a producer is there for.
MisterAnarchy wrote: » Thats pretty embarrassing ,its the exact same song ! It confirms what I have long believed about the band ,they are out of ideas. The songs on the last 2 albums are a combination of old songs they didnt release before and stuff they got off other bands .
Tomas White Suspect wrote: » From what I've read from U2 fans, it appears to be that 90% like the album. While the other 10% don't.
