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Donut shops, EVERYWHERE!

joe stodge

Lads, I like donuts and all but what has happened to Dublin City?
there's donut shops everywhere!

I pass 5 on my way to work, they're popping up like poxy Starbucks!

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lightspeed

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

The mad thing is, most of the ones I pass regularly seem to be doing f all business. So what gives?

I noticed the exact same today aswell. I walked one with loads of doughnuts in the window and in decent location. I seen few of these shops today but i think this was the one i seen in IFSC.

There was just one girl working there at the window on her phone. Not a customer in sight from what I could see.

You do have to wonder what market research all these companies are doing as they must be paying a lot on rent so its quite a gamble. I would have thought it would be even more of a gamble in present times where social media is having the effect of pushing people towards more healthy expensive food.

retro:electro

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Dungeons 'n' Donuts is there, a 2 minute walk from the middle of Shop Street.

I meant KrispyKreme.
D&D isn't great

This Fat Girl Runs

The best doughnut shop in Dublin is the one on O'Connell Street that's been there for donkey's years.

riemann

Fieldog wrote: »

.....my usual 12 box..

Good Lord, I like a doughnut as much as the next guy, but 12?

That is a lot to consume.

Insect Overlord

anna080 wrote: »

I meant KrispyKreme.
D&D isn't great

Oops, sorry!

D&D is still streets ahead of the utterly awful Funky Donut & Co. in Limerick.

Tzardine

This Fat Girl Runs wrote: »

The best doughnut shop in Dublin is the one on O'Connell Street that's been there for donkey's years.

They are nothing special. Stodgy old yokes.

[Deleted User]

riemann wrote: »

Good Lord, I like a doughnut as much as the next guy, but 12?

That is a lot to consume.

Many hands make lighter work....

Buford T. Justice XIX

Mod note: Much and all as I like Doughnuts, I think we can restrict ourselves to just one Doughnut shop thread. Think of it restricting temptation, if you will;)

Thanks In advance,

Buford T. Justice

lightspeed

You can see from the link below how many there are in Dublin at such close proximity to each other.

https://www.google.ie/search?q=doughnut+shops+dublin&npsic=0&rflfq=1&rlha=0&rllag=53343126,-6257617,740&tbm=lcl&ved=0ahUKEwj3mOHjifHXAhWBHsAKHQ82DxQQjGoIXw&tbs=lrf:!2m1!1e2!2m1!1e3!3sIAE,lf:1,lf_ui:9&rldoc=1#rlfi=hd:;si:;mv:!1m3!1d4788.826970181393!2d-6.257617499999999!3d53.3431261!2m3!1f0!2f0!3f0!3m2!1i438!2i386!4f13.1;tbs:lrf:!2m1!1e2!2m1!1e3!3sIAE,lf:1,lf_ui:9

I must be missing something cause i just done get the appeal from the point of view of a customer or entrprenuer.

As I mentioned, social media has largely impacted attitudes towards food and hence why we see healthy food outlets like chopped for example making a killing for charging.

Why in this current environment would someone look at that, know that there are huge costs and risks to run a food business in Dublin city centre and say to themselves, I'll set up a store that sells just doughnuts?

From a customer point of view, im imagining im looking for something to fill me for breakfast or a coffee to keep me going. I could pop into the numerous coffee shops and get a coffee and a doughnut. Why would i just go out of my way to just get a doughnut in a shop that just sells doughnut and probably at a higher cost?

Even if i wanted a doughnut, i could pop into tesco, spar or any bakery and buy a heap for much less with all the icing, creme etc?

Someone explain the appeal to me?

frozenfrozen

there could be very low operational costs. And even a low cost of converting from a cafe, you can go from pretending you make artisan coffee with a real barista to someone who is capable of operating the machines without making it taste burnt. Probably huge markup to be had on making donuts even in-house compared to buying in stuff like croissants, when you are then able to price in the fact it's being made right in front of customers. Then you can add huge value by clever decoration and the social media posts as marketing by doing designs related to current affairs

"bag of donuts with the lads by the canal" = 5000 shares

lightspeed

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Mod note: Much and all as I like Doughnuts, I think we can restrict ourselves to just one Doughnut shop thread. Think of it restricting temptation, if you will;)

Thanks In advance,

Buford T. Justice

No bother, I had not noticed an existing thread on the topic.

Buford T. Justice XIX

lightspeed wrote: »

No bother, I had not noticed an existing thread on the topic.

No bother, both merged now.:)

Ipso

lightspeed wrote: »

I noticed the exact same today aswell. I walked one with loads of doughnuts in the window and in decent location. I seen few of these shops today but i think this was the one i seen in IFSC.

There was just one girl working there at the window on her phone. Not a customer in sight from what I could see.

You do have to wonder what market research all these companies are doing as they must be paying a lot on rent so its quite a gamble. I would have thought it would be even more of a gamble in present times where social media is having the effect of pushing people towards more healthy expensive food.

A few years ago my tv guilty pleasure were Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares and Bar Rescue, an impression I got from these shows is that many businesses these days seem to be opened on the idea of it being a hobby or something that the owner likes without the underlying idea that it is an actual business that requires a sh1t load of hard, non glamorous work.

[Deleted User]

Insect Overlord wrote: »

Dungeons 'n' Donuts is there, a 2 minute walk from the middle of Shop Street.

Funky Donut & Co is also there

Ficheall

Man, I would love a donut. Does anywhere deliver donuts in Galway?

lightspeed

Rackstar wrote: »

Where is the Krispykreme?

My apologies, I was not in the loop of these doughnut shops and was under the impression that it may have been krispy kremes that got the trend going.

Im completely wrong on that and they have not even opened yet. There planning on opening in Dublin soon but not in city centre, its will be in blanchardstown.

Looks like there are enough doughnut shops in city centre so the fat f**kers eating that ****e wont starve.

Tzardine

lightspeed wrote: »

.

Looks like there are enough doughnut shops in city centre so the fat f**kers eating that ****e wont starve.

Classy

Church on Tuesday

Jaffa cake doughnuts though.

4068ac1elhodqr

Doughnuts: 38% fat, of which 65% is saturated. Technically it's sweets/confectionery, not food.

Other than the 22% RDA of Iron /100gms (you may get that from dipping a rusty old nail in your tea), it has no other nutrition values of note.

Insect Overlord

What's nutrition got to do with it? Sometimes you just want a treat!

Wheety

Kobe Square Listener wrote: »

Doughnuts: 38% fat, of which 65% is saturated. Technically it's sweets/confectionery, not food.

Other than the 22% RDA of Iron /100gms (you may get that from dipping a rusty old nail in your tea), it has no other nutrition values of note.

I don't think anyone thinks donuts are healthy

4068ac1elhodqr

Insect Overlord wrote: »

What's nutrition got to do with it? Sometimes you just want a treat!

What about a good self pat on the back instead :pac:, or a junk food piggy bank towards a new sports coupe or trip to the Maldives.

A study back in 2002 put costs of obesity on the island at €1.6bn, with 18 weight-related diseases the main drivers of direct healthcare costs: Cardiac arrest (44%), Type 2 diabetes (9%), Colorectal cancer (12%), Stroke (6%), Cancers of the breast (2%), Kidney (3%), Oesophagus (2%), Gallbladder (3%).

If only the chart below was the FIFA world rankings, instead it shows 23% winning at obesity.

The OECD/WHO has frightening predictions for 2030:

“In terms of obesity alone, the estimates show a big jump for women in the Irish Republic, soaring from 23 per cent to 57 per cent. The proportion of obese Irish men was expected to increase from 26 per cent to 48 per cent, while the figure for those either overweight or obese rises from 74 per cent to 89 per cent.”

_Dara_

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

The mad thing is, most of the ones I pass regularly seem to be doing f all business. So what gives?

What gives is that people are jumping on the bandwagon. In a few years time, only the best will have survived.

There's a market for €3 "gourmet" donuts but I don't think it's a big market and there are too many shops to survive currently, IMO.

I'm not really a donut fan but I tried a few of the gourmet ones thinking that the toppings and fillings would elevate them but no. They mostly look much better than they taste. Not worth the calories or money for me.

wench

_Dara_ wrote: »

What gives is that people are jumping on the bandwagon. In a few years time, only the best will have survived.

There's a market for €3 "gourmet" donuts but I don't think it's a big market and there are too many shops to survive currently, IMO.

The Yankee Donut place in Rathmines has closed, replaced by a tanning salon. Only lasted about 6 months.

_Dara_

blondeonblonde wrote: »

I was utterly unimpressed by Aungier Danger, it wasn't particularly soft and the toppings are way over the top. Sometimes less is more!

Absolutely. Like with pizza, minimal toppings are best. The only donuts I love are the single sugar ring and chocolate-covered ring from the Rolling Donut stand on O'Connell Street. I don't like any of the Rolling Donut's more elaborate creations that I have tried. Same with Aungier Danger.

I could get on board with a Krispy Kreme. Simple donuts and the price is right.

Tzardine wrote: »

They are nothing special. Stodgy old yokes.

Donuts ARE stodgy. You're not going to get a light and airy donut. At least the Rolling Donut ones are freshly deep-fried.

_Dara_

lightspeed wrote: »

You can see from the link below how many there are in Dublin at such close proximity to each other.

I must be missing something cause i just done get the appeal from the point of view of a customer or entrprenuer.

As I mentioned, social media has largely impacted attitudes towards food and hence why we see healthy food outlets like chopped for example making a killing for charging.

Why in this current environment would someone look at that, know that there are huge costs and risks to run a food business in Dublin city centre and say to themselves, I'll set up a store that sells just doughnuts?

I read an interview with the woman that expanded the Rolling Donut a while back. Had to laugh at this part of the interview:

She has a quick response to obvious health questions. “Ah no, it is all about balance, and the calorie content of a doughnut isn’t that high, maybe between 200 and 300 calories.”

She pauses. “Well, some might be a little higher. But remember, for many people it is a weekly treat.”

200-300 calories a donut? LOL. You're talking 400 -500 calories or more, especially for the more elaborate ones.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/food-and-drink/peak-doughnut-when-will-the-craving-end-1.3125470

frozenfrozen wrote: »

when you are then able to price in the fact it's being made right in front of customers.

I don't think they are generally. Aungier Danger does make their own, I know, but not in-store. I'd say a lot of the others don't make their own.

21Savage

For years I hated how donuts just weren't a thing in Ireland save for those poverty jam donuts from tesco but now it's done a 180. Crazy to see.

Wheety

They'll go the way of milkshake shops.

DoozerT6

Wheety wrote: »

They'll go the way of milkshake shops.

You're probably right. To everything a season....

branie2

I drink your milkshake!