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charolais0153

Just a thread for miscellaneous questions that don't deserve their own thread iykwim .

Does anyone know what this is? Took this picture a few months ago and she healed after a while through injections and formalin

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Dickie10

it would be great for some guy with dogs like a hunt or greyhounds

DJ98

Think I asked this already but is it ok to dose ewes that are 2 months in-lamb (hopefully)?

charolais0153

DJ98 wrote: »

Think I asked this already but is it ok to dose ewes that are 2 months in-lamb (hopefully)?

Yes

timmiekp

how many lambs can be ran over 50 acres for the winter.

razor8

For how long? When do ya need them off it? Good or bad land

You could put a 1000 on it and ate in a few weeks

tomwaterford

DJ98 wrote: »

Think I asked this already but is it ok to dose ewes that are 2 months in-lamb (hopefully)?

Depends what your dosing with/strengths surly,?

What's it say on the bottle?

DJ98

tomwaterford wrote: »

Depends what your dosing with/strengths surly,?

What's it say on the bottle?

I haven't decided yet but it will be something for fluke!

MayoAreMagic

DJ98 wrote: »

I haven't decided yet but it will be something for fluke!

It says on the bottle if you can dose pregnant ewes or not. Some you can, some you cant.

timmiekp

razor8 wrote: »

For how long? When do ya need them off it? Good or bad land

You could put a 1000 on it and ate in a few weeks

around 3 or 4 months. dry and soft ground but cant see sheep doing much damage. have 2 leantas I could finish them off on meal

roosky

hi all,

Im looking to get my hands on three 15 foot sheep barriers if any of ye know of anyone with some to sell can ye please forward me on details.

TIA

gazahayes

roosky wrote: »

hi all,

Im looking to get my hands on three 15 foot sheep barriers if any of ye know of anyone with some to sell can ye please forward me on details.

TIA

They're hard got this year looking for a few myself 360 is the cheapest for new ones. Might make them myself for less than 100

roosky

gazahayes wrote: »

They're hard got this year looking for a few myself 360 is the cheapest for new ones. Might make them myself for less than 100

Fella on DD in louth that has them at 275 galvanized or 215 painted, I am thinking of making them myself but dont think i will be able to make them with a gate included for getting sheep in and out etc

gazahayes

roosky wrote: »

Fella on DD in louth that has them at 275 galvanized or 215 painted, I am thinking of making them myself but dont think i will be able to make them with a gate included for getting sheep in and out etc

Not making them with gates shed is 77 foot long so am making 3 4 foot barriers that can swing as gates on each side.

IH784man

Have 30 odd ewes here,I want to vaccinate for toxo and the other injections like heptifact p to keep them right,lambing from late February/start of March to middle of April.Last dosed for fluke when ram went out.

Any help on when I should inject them with what?

arctictree

IH784man wrote: »

Have 30 odd ewes here,I want to vaccinate for toxo and the other injections like heptifact p to keep them right,lambing from late February/start of March to middle of April.Last dosed for fluke when ram went out.

Any help on when I should inject them with what?

As far as I know, it's too late to Vaccinate for toxo. It should be done a couple of months before mating. Heptavac P should be given 6 weeks before lambing to provide immunity for the ewe and lambs for the other diseases (pasturella, clostridial etc)

razor8

IH784man wrote: »

Have 30 odd ewes here,I want to vaccinate for toxo and the other injections like heptifact p to keep them right,lambing from late February/start of March to middle of April.Last dosed for fluke when ram went out.

Any help on when I should inject them with what?

Toxovax needs to be given a month before mating. If you gave it now you’ll kill the lambs

They need two shots of heptacac four to 6 geeks apart and last shot needs to be 4 weeks pre lambing so that it passes to the lambs vía colostrum

DJ98

razor8 wrote: »

They need two shots of heptacac four to 6 geeks apart and last shot needs to be 4 weeks pre lambing so that it passes to the lambs vía colostrum

If they are already in the heptavac p system do they still need the 2 shots or just one before lambing?

IH784man

So if I have ewes lambing from end of February to April when's the best time to give the 2nd shot to do the whole lot?

Buford T. Justice XIX

DJ98 wrote: »

If they are already in the heptavac p system do they still need the 2 shots or just one before lambing?

Two shots their first year and one every year after.

Replacements should start off with two and then once a year pre lambing.

razor8

DJ98 wrote: »

If they are already in the heptavac p system do they still need the 2 shots or just one before lambing?

If already on system one booster shot annually 4 to 6 weeks pre lambing is all you need

razor8

IH784man wrote: »

So if I have ewes lambing from end of February to April when's the best time to give the 2nd shot to do the whole lot?

You should do them in batch’s according to lambing date but might not be practical. If it was me I’d base timing on when you think the majority will lamb and do lambs when they a few weeks old

DJ98

Have wether lambs here that were bought in the summer to finish, plan on selling on the mart in a couple of weeks, is one tag enough in there ear or do I need to replace with an eid set?

Willfarman

One is enough but if they were bought in you need to write the whole flocknumber and individual number

Green farmer

Have a batch of 30 ewe lambs with the ram, not lambing until 1st April onwards. Wintering them out on a field that's now turning bare.Instead of drawing silage to them, was considering lightly mealing them. How much would keep them ticking over until spring ?

tomwaterford

Green farmer wrote: »

Have a batch of 30 ewe lambs with the ram, not lambing until 1st April onwards. Wintering them out on a field that's now turning bare.Instead of drawing silage to them, was considering lightly mealing them. How much would keep them ticking over until spring ?

I'd go with oats....have to get the lambs outta them?

wrangler

Green farmer wrote: »

Have a batch of 30 ewe lambs with the ram, not lambing until 1st April onwards. Wintering them out on a field that's now turning bare.Instead of drawing silage to them, was considering lightly mealing them. How much would keep them ticking over until spring ?

I fed .5kg of 15%p ration last year after taking the ram out, they turned into smashing hoggets from it, but I put them in for the last 6 weeks. scanned them, put the single up to .75kg for the last month and the doubles up to a kilo, that's all fed with straw.
You have more control if they're in, farmers think that in March the sheep have no grass when in fact they could be eating the grass as it growing unknown to them, that grass is 20% protein and 80% DMD and that's what causes the big lambs ...and then other years grass doesn't grow at all in march and the lambs are miserable and the ewes short of milk.
My opinion is that meal fed mid pregnancy doesn't increase lamb size but improves ewe condition and size.

Sheep breeder

wrangler wrote: »

I fed .5kg of 15%p ration last year after taking the ram out, they turned into smashing hoggets from it, but I put them in for the last 6 weeks. scanned them, put the single up to .75kg for the last month and the doubles up to a kilo, that's all fed with straw.
You have more control if they're in, farmers think that in March the sheep have no grass when in fact they could be eating the grass as it growing unknown to them, that grass is 20% protein and 80% DMD and that's what causes the big lambs ...and then other years grass doesn't grow at all in march and the lambs are miserable and the ewes short of milk.
My opinion is that meal fed mid pregnancy doesn't increase lamb size but improves ewe condition and size.

Agree with you feed mid pregnancy as lamb grows most in the last 7 weeks, feeding replacement ewe lambs a pound a meal a day for the last 6 weeks to stretch them out and keep grass longer and they are doing well.

Birdnuts

tomwaterford wrote: »

I'd go with oats....have to get the lambs outta them?

I have access to rolled barley - I know acidosis might be an issue but I assume its ok to feed in moderate quantities as a supplement

White Clover

wrangler wrote: »

I fed .5kg of 15%p ration last year after taking the ram out, they turned into smashing hoggets from it, but I put them in for the last 6 weeks. scanned them, put the single up to .75kg for the last month and the doubles up to a kilo, that's all fed with straw.
You have more control if they're in, farmers think that in March the sheep have no grass when in fact they could be eating the grass as it growing unknown to them, that grass is 20% protein and 80% DMD and that's what causes the big lambs ...and then other years grass doesn't grow at all in march and the lambs are miserable and the ewes short of milk.
My opinion is that meal fed mid pregnancy doesn't increase lamb size but improves ewe condition and size.

Great info there wrangler. Welcome back !

roosky

Im trying to get the last of my lambs gone before Christmas but just wondering does anyone know will the factorys be killing the week before Christmas as in Monday 18th or Tuesday 19th

Also when do lambs become hoggets in the factory's eyes like if i carried these lambs into January are they worth less per kg