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Let's say something nice about Travellers

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Here on AH, there's always a new thread denigrating our nomadic bretheren. Well let's see if we can change that by posting some postives. I'll go first. In my job, there's a traveller lad who acts like a Big Brother to our other clientele and he helps them with their reading and writing. It's called the Step By Step programme. Anybody else got any?

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Necro

Tried... can't do it. Sorry OP. I have nothing good to say so I'm better leaving it at that.

bodice ripper

Good customers, tattoo one and end up with two or three more. You need to put haggle room in the asking price, but other than that, no problems.

Noveight

They drive really nice motors. Even their Transit vans always seem to have flashy bits of chrome.

whoopsadoodles

Never had any issues with travellers that I've dealt with. Have only met the pleasant and polite ones. Went to school with a girl who used to walk the wrong way home so that none of us knew she was one

Anyone of my friends that has ever been robbed or attacked, my grandad who had someone in his room while he was asleep a few weeks ago and who came back and robbed his next door neighbour blind, it's never been travellers that have done it.

They clean my driveway every year, and have done some gardening. They've called in to ask me if they could go through the skip. Never had a crossed word with them.

My Dad stopped for a traveller lady who had broken down on the side of the road. Three young kids in the car. She gave him money to go and buy petrol and a can which he did and when he came back she told him the first person she gave the money too took it and didn't return. That person wasn't a traveller either.

So yeh. The only people I've witnessed being rotten scum have been so called settled people.

DubInTheWest

They smell great

Professor Moriarty

the beer revolu wrote: »

Being punched in the face isn't the same as fighting.
Actually, 4 times. I thought of another settled scumbag who thought to punch me.

Settled people really are scum.

You must have a very punchable face.

padd b1975

Their life expectancy is very low.

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Tenigate

the beer revolu wrote: »

Being punched in the face isn't the same as fighting.
Actually, 4 times. I thought of another settled scumbag who thought to punch me.

Settled people really are scum.

If you get punched so much, you need to re-evaluate your own behaviour.

You mightn't get up again if a traveller punches you.

Collie D

padd b1975 wrote: »

Their life expectancy is very low.

Nice, enjoy the thanks you get from any other troglodytes

YFlyer

Measurements and Standards use the thickness of their tarmac as a reference.

RayM

I remember being at mass years ago and the woman sitting next to me (very prim & proper, well-known local busybody) refused to shake hands with some travellers sitting on her other side. My dad noticed this and made us all reach across her to shake hands with them.

andekwarhola

A little traveler kid hangs around with son and his friends. The family live nearby somewhere. He's a really nice, polite kid, one of my favourite of my kids' pals, although his other, older siblings are wild. Always feel sorry for him.

My Da knows a settled traveller, really nice guy, who is very well liked and respected in the local community and is involved with the local sports club.

my3cents

The problem is OP for every good thing I can say about Travellers and I can say quite a lot of good as I had some friends that were settled Travellers I have about 4 times as much that is bad to say.

Well I say settled they still kept a caravan just in case.

Help!!!!

Looked after the after schools in my local Family Resource Centre, there were a number of Traveller kids. Some would really try your patience but you could see what they were up to. I'd have to laugh when they would be outside kicking a ball around & one of the older ones would kick a younger one, then a fight would start, crying & shouting. But all in all they were good kids.
To be honest I blame the schools & probably Pavee Point. No one encourages the kids to learn. One young lad 12 years old was barely able to read a book for 6 year olds. I asked them what do they do in school & they said they just paint or colour in. Maybe schools are underfunded but surely Pavee Point could be doing more to encourage the community to educate the kids, otherwise in 20 years time we will be talking about the same sh1te.

arayess

the beer revolu wrote: »

I've been punched in the face three times in my life by Irish, white settled males. All Irish men are scumbags.

I have never been punched in the face by a traveller. All travellers are sound.

Am I missing something?

you missed basic boxing lessons I can see

Tenigate

Help!!!! wrote: »

. No one encourages the kids to learn. One young lad 12 years old was barely able to read a book for 6 year olds.

O.t but i think inbreeding between cousins and foetal alcohol syndrome (along with equivalents for heroin and prescription drugs) play a part.

YFlyer

Speedwell wrote: »

I have no idea really how to tell any group of Irish people from any other group..

Sure.

Mrs OBumble

They played no part in the dodgy activities which lead to the banking crisis.

And they can manage their body temperature well: a couple of winters ago, I was in a community hall with a group of people on a particularly cold day day. The buffers (including me) where wrapped up to the nines and whining about the cold. The travellers had their winter jackets on, for sure, but weren't messing with hats, scarves, gloves - and weren't shivering either.

Are Am Eye

Going back a few generations we excluded travellers from irish life or main stream society. This is the result. They weren't going to roll over and die. Human beings will survive in any way possible and will always survive.

At this stage - there's no quick fix - we have to integrate travellers into the education system and into employment. The naysayers will have hundreds of reasons as to why this can't happen. But we have to Make it happen.

Are Am Eye

Full Metal Jacket wrote: »

They don't want to integrate. 'Pay taxes? Sorry boss that's your job. Now where's me welfare?'.

Can they walk in and get a job. Pay tax. Go to the christmas party. Game of golf with the boss. Take the wife to a nice restraunt. Plan for their kids to go to Trinity. Prudently invest in a pension scheme.

I would submit that they would be run out the door of any business. Most of them have poor or no education.

You can complain till kingdom come about welfare, drinking, fighting and thieving. And achieve nothing. Or you can try and change this shameful blight on our society.
Travellers have to be brought into and kept in education and they have to brought into jobs in a working environment.

Dont make this into a whse to blame game.
Lets maqke the situation better.

Professor Moriarty

Are Am Eye wrote: »

Can they walk in and get a job. Pay tax. Go to the christmas party. Game of golf with the boss. Take the wife to a nice restraunt. Plan for their kids to go to Trinity. Prudently invest in a pension scheme.

I would submit that they would be run out the door of any business. Most of them have poor or no education.

You can complain till kingdom come about welfare, drinking, fighting and thieving. And achieve nothing. Or you can try and change this shameful blight on our society.
Travellers have to be brought into and kept in education and they have to brought into jobs in a working environment.

Dont make this into a whse to blame game.
Lets maqke the situation better.

This has been tried for quite a while now with very little success. What's your solution?

DoozerT6

Are Am Eye wrote: »

Can they walk in and get a job. Pay tax. Go to the christmas party. Game of golf with the boss. Take the wife to a nice restraunt. Plan for their kids to go to Trinity. Prudently invest in a pension scheme.

I would submit that they would be run out the door of any business. Most of them have poor or no education.

You can complain till kingdom come about welfare, drinking, fighting and thieving. And achieve nothing. Or you can try and change this shameful blight on our society.
Travellers have to be brought into and kept in education and they have to brought into jobs in a working environment.

Dont make this into a whse to blame game.
Lets maqke the situation better.

I'm not going to get involved in the wider debate, but haven't there been special provisions made for travellers for years and years, to encourage them into education, and higher education? They also have to change their cultural mindset. There is no point making heroic efforts to get traveller children to attend school every day if the girls are going to be married off at 16 to start families, and the boys taken out of school to go into the 'family business'.

They have to play ball too.

Help!!!!

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

This has been tried for quite a while now with very little success. What's your solution?

For me its to get Pavee Point off their ar$e & actually do something for the Travelling community other than keeping them divided from the settled community. Do the people at PP get paid?

tayto lover

We should always praise the good ones and castigate the criminal element.
Same as we should do with the settled community.

Help!!!!

tayto lover wrote: »

We should always praise the good ones and castigate the criminal element.
Same as we should do with the settled community.

But we do with the settled community, scumbags get called out all the time

OnDraught

Help!!!! wrote: »

But we do with the settled community, scumbags get called out all the time

Not really. There is usually a string of GAA coaches or other people with a high standing in the community lining up to give character references for young lads that get themselves in to trouble with the courts.

jcd5971

I don't have to work in a shop near them anymore thank christ.

They were fierce dedicated to testing out our shop-liffting defenses, and bless there little Cotten socks, they never even billed us for the service.

suicide_circus

Surely generalising and saying something nice about travellers is just as racist as saying something bad?

Sue Pa Key Pa

They never sit on my favourite stool in my local. They're sound with things like that

ToddyDoody

Glenroe''s Blackie was a great character who we all loved.