Billy8669 wrote: » Lick my sack You ball bag.
gozunda wrote: » And the thread descends to this ... :rolleyes:
gozunda wrote: » So all "citizens" of Ireland must obey sharia :eek: Perhaps you would stop obfuscating and respond to the points actually made.
dreamliner wrote: » I need to ask a serious question, did you ever go to school? Did you study English and have to read articles and the like and then answer questions on them? Really you're not showing any evidence of having ever done that. You proposed that my initial statement that all Muslims are bound by sharia law, and if they don't practice it they at least at heart believe it to be true was false. You then posted some link (the relevance of which is non-existant but we'll ignore that) and claimed that some muslims voted they wouldn't like it implemented in whatever nations, meaning for it to be proof that my initial statement was wrong.
dreamliner wrote: » I then found you something 'from the horses mouth' that directly stated the followers of Islam are bound by sharia law. What do you do? Go off on a completely different tangent leading us into another galaxy of discussion.
dreamliner wrote: » Now you want to stir up a load of nonsense that the link somehow says Irish citizens are bound by sharia? Why? Are all Irish people Muslims? What on earth are you talking about.
My God what sort of people live in this country.
Billy86 wrote: » Sorry but you've been so eager to paint it as extreme in your time on boards that you can't make that claim. Here is why, the first quote particularly: When you put that much consistent effort over time into trying to paint Sharia law as extremist, to the point of literally saying over half of Muslims polled wanting Sharia = over half Muslims are radicalised, you don't get to expect being taken seriously or at face value when you try and claim the opposite to back up an argument over your claimed Muslims friends. Either they don't follow Sharia and you lied about that, or they do and by your own admission you're hanging around with extremists and radicals, or... they never existed. It's your own hole that you dug yourself, but since people on the right love to bang on about accountability I'm sure you won't be at all hypocritical over that.
gozunda wrote: » Remember this if you know nothing else: attack the post not the poster. The link I posted was directly relevant to the claim you made. Don't like it? Tough. You retreated to a one man band definition and again set yourself up and "the expert" (is that you horse?) Your quote clearly says that "citizens" must obey sharia law :eek: Ok you lost me there - which god are we talking about exactly?
dreamliner wrote: » What is this even ? Mods we seriously need some cleaning up on this thread.
Spambotdick3 wrote: » None of your business, now fcuk off back to Egypt you cnut.
Help!!!! wrote: » OK I'm out of here before the close down....enjoy
dreamliner wrote: » I couldn't care less about the link, but it had no relevance and was out of place. What is it about Azerbaijan that somehow defines what the rulings of Islam are?
dreamliner wrote: The fact that "Shariah law is what every muslim will aspire to follow"
dreamliner wrote: » And no, if you read it properly, it says "In addition, Muslim citizens must adhere to Islamic law - Shariah." ... my very first point you sought to disprove!
http://www.islamicsupr...ing-islamic-law.html "Islamic civilization, since the time of Prophet Muhammad (s) until now, is firmly founded on the concept of ‘rule of law.’ For that reason, the law is published and known, and citizens and courts are expected to uphold it. In addition, Muslim citizens must adhere to Islamic law - Shariah."
dreamliner wrote: » If defensive is calling out your irrelevant nonsense then so be it. Sharia law is the law of Islam. A Muslim believes it to be God's law and the bedrock of how this life should be lived according to the God who made us. If they don't believe this, then quite simply, they are not Muslim. Believing it is the law of God and believing it should be implemented in the western countries that its adherents live in are 2 separate things in case you have difficulties grasping that. I already told you that an aspect of sharia law is to respect the law of the land in which you live when it comes to issues where there may be contradictions. Now what relevance does a vote in Azerbaijan have to do with this? You were not ignored because I have no answers, you were ignored because your post was so off the track it didn't deserve one.
Donnielighto wrote: » What about non western countries?
end of the road wrote: » i'd imagine the same applies. respect the law of that country where it conflicts with sharia
Donnielighto wrote: » Respectfully I was asking dreamliner who posted it, it seems an unnecessary addition.
end of the road wrote: » his post answered what you were looking for.
Donnielighto wrote: » What is the timeline of IH before being detained btw, is there consensus on how the number of protests attended or if it was just one and what the content of them was.
Ralf and Florian wrote: » Yeah, you could tell he'd done his homework. Really caught the pair of them off guard.
deco nate wrote: » Ahh sure I remember the statement that they just wanted him home. And him saying he just wanted time to himself. you know, just to get back to normal/didn't want to be in the limelight. So why the fcuk is he in the media?! Think about it....
end of the road wrote: » just the 1 protest. the protest was about the overthrowing of the government and subsiquent murdering of protesters that followed it.
gozunda wrote: It would appear he attended multiple protests over a number of weeks. This is supported by his own comments on video and elsewhere.
jimmycrackcorm wrote: » I listened to the interview and a lot of what he said made sense. He's being going over there anyway visiting family. But one year his friends got shot and that pushed him into activism and protests. I get it. It's the reason here that young people joined the IRA. Also the reason many were interned without trial.
jimmycrackcorm wrote: » My point is that what he was saying was very plausible. Having grown up in a border area, Im well aware how easy it is to become an activist. It seems to me that people are taking that context and jumping straight to Sharia and Isis conclusions.
gozunda wrote: » It may have made sense. However there is video and other available evidence that the siblings attended the protests over several weeks and were fairly well involved in what was going on. His "friends" (he didn't live in Egypt btw) were alledgedly shot at one of the protests he was attending. So a bit of chicken and egg type argument there on his behalf imo. Not quite truthful perhaps. As far as I can work out the protests involved the arrest of many as the military tried to restore order. The creaking Egyptian legal system and the sheer numbers arranged for trial meant that there were considerable delays well beyond anything we would consider acceptable in the West - but then Egypt is not a western country in any shape or form.
