Help!!!! wrote: » Well many Imams say that each verse can be interpreted many different ways so for you a non Arabic speaking person to say either is right or wrong you must be more educated better than an Imam.
Help!!!! wrote: » As far as Islam goes I have many friends that are ...............
dreamliner wrote: » You actually don't. You are very good however at taking verses out of context to suit what you want to make Islam sound like. Why do even bother, anyway. Verse 106 of chapter 16 tells that the followers of Islam, if ever captured and threatened with death over their faith, are allowed to deny their faith to those threatening to kill them. You know, like if someone is threatening to kill you, you can say whatever you want in order to save your life ... or would you prefer if the verse said they can't deny their faith and should take offer themselves to be killed? As for 3:28, the context of that verse was when the muslims were dealing with an onslaught from the mekkans whilst seeking refuge in medinah. It is a command to trust nobody else during that time, as nobody could be trusted in the region, the pagans wanted the faith and its followers wiped out. On the contrary, the Quran permits marriage with Jews and Christians. Are you proposing that the Quran says that Muslims can marry non muslims but not take them as friends? Or that they should pretend to love their spouse? What stupidity, I suggest you lay off answeringislam type websites run by lunatics. It's sheer delusion. In such a volatile time you disingenuously take a verse out of context to imply a sly meaning that is non existant in order for the less knowledgeable to become fearful of adherants to this faith. You, sir/madam, ought to be absolutely ashamed of yourself. Now, attempting to relate this to Halawa (which I'm lead to believe this thread was meant to be about), are ye proposing now that he wrote the Quran or what? What's this nonsense I've had to read got to do with him being taken out of egypt and the interview on cork radio ??
Help!!!! wrote: » All Muslims use it Quran Quran (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie. Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly.But then again I dont know anything about Islam
Billy86 wrote: » So why was the interviewer correct to bring it up? If he were against SSM as are 38% of the Irish electorate, what would relevance would that have?
Die by fire pikeys wrote: » He's a pikey. Burn the bastard.
beefburrito wrote: » Ahem I'm sure if he was Shi'a,Allawite or Sufi he wouldn't have been there in the first place.... I don't like the Sunni interpretation of Islam
Odhinn wrote: » Sunni.
Odhinn wrote: » Step away from the white powder.....
beefburrito wrote: » Is Ibrahim Alawite,Shia or Sunni ?
Help!!!! wrote: » Well I guess thats your opinion
Help!!!! wrote: » Well why not, ex Muslim victim of FGM. I would have no problem with ex Muslims coming to our country as they are trying to escape from MB, Sharia law etc
Odhinn wrote: » A non sequitur. Why do you think you'd find anything reliable about a thing from a website that exists purely to undermine its subject? I have, and must say I'm suprised to see you champion Hirshi Ali, given her dubious history with regards immgration.
Help!!!! wrote: » Sure all website or quotes are lies to you unless it comes from the Grand Mufti.
Help!!!! wrote: » Have you listened to Ayaan Hirshi Ali or Imam Tawhidi?
Odhinn wrote: » Nope. ....lifted from a notorious hate site. Not linking back to a source is a bit of a no-no, and pointless when we can just drop the quote in google and trace it back. Given your choice of website I'd have to agree.
Help!!!! wrote: » A devout Muslim prays 5 times a day which includes killing the Jews & infidels but of course its a religion of peace:rolleyes:
Help!!!! wrote: » All Muslims use it
Help!!!! wrote: » Quran (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie. Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly.
Help!!!! wrote: » But then again I dont know anything about Islam;)
Odhinn wrote: » For starters its primarily a shia thing. Halawa is sunni.
PeterParker957 wrote: » Granted it's more common to the Sunni branch of Islam but other parts are able to use it at times.I'll never understand how people can think debate is shouting down the other person or insulting their knowledge - or denying they have it.
PeterParker957 wrote: » Granted it's more common to the Sunni branch of Islam but other parts are able to use it at times. I'll never understand how people can think debate is shouting down the other person or insulting their knowledge - or denying they have it.
gozunda wrote: » This?
Help!!!! wrote: » Odhinn wrote: » You've no idea what that actually is. I actually do;)
Odhinn wrote: » You've no idea what that actually is.
Help!!!! wrote: There was a lot of Taqiyya going on in that interview.
Taqiyya has also been politically legitimised, particularly among Twelver Shias, in order to maintain unity among Muslims and fraternity among the Shia clerics. Yarden Mariuma writes: "Taqiyya is an Islamic juridical term whose shifting meaning relates to when a Muslim is allowed, under Sharia law, to lie.
Help!!!! wrote: » There was a lot of Taqiyya going on in that interview.
littelady wrote: » IH starts his interview again mentioning he was born in the Coombe I was a normal 17 year old blah blah His sister is a moany hole she had again an opportunity to thank the Irish government but no. The Irish government bent over backwards for him, put in 20,000 working hours on him come on. I can't abide her at all. She is so bitter. IH went over to Egypt to voice his & his dad's views Imo. To get up on stage at a rally eh no that's not what normal 17 year olds do.
dreamliner wrote: » Shariah law is what every muslim will aspire to follow. It is the very core of the faith, being a muslim in itself means someone believes shariah law to be the law of god and ultimate authority. The same way Jews would believe the laws in the talmud/torah. The followers of said law will follow it, however where it may contradict with the common law of whatever land its followers are in, then they are to follow the law of the land, doing this is actually a law within shariah law. To respect the law of the land you are in but practice it where there is no contradiction. Again, what bloody relevance has this got to do with halawa? The priorities here are all over the shop. Ask why he was protesting, ask why he was on a stage getting involved in a political mess in a different land, but his views on shariah and homosexuality? Very poor.
Pew Research Center survey of Muslims in 39 countries asked Muslims whether they want sharia law, a legal code based on the Quran and other Islamic scripture, to be the official law of the land in their country. Responses on this question vary widely. Nearly all Muslims in Afghanistan (99%) and most in Iraq (91%) and Pakistan (84%) support sharia law as official law. But in some other countries, especially in Eastern Europe and Central Asia – including Turkey (12%), Kazakhstan (10%) and Azerbaijan (8%) – relatively few favor the implementation of sharia law.
