Ibrahim Halawa radio interview.

Billy86 wrote: »

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Halawa headband:

You are familiar with the types of headgear which Islamists prefer then?

Whatever it's not a Millwall supporters one anyway

Take your pick from amongst the following

http://jihadintel.meforum.org/identifiers/24/headbands

DrumSteve

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Yet its still the Left championing for Open Border and unlimited and unchecked immigration. :rolleyes:

really? got any examples i can have a look at?

DrumSteve wrote: »

really? got any examples i can have a look at?

Apparently "the left" support this in order to destroy society, according to Johnmc1 at least.

dreamliner wrote: »

Shariah law is what every muslim will aspire to follow. It is the very core of the faith, being a muslim in itself means someone believes shariah law to be the law of god and ultimate authority. The same way Jews would believe the laws in the talmud/torah.

The followers of said law will follow it, however where it may contradict with the common law of whatever land its followers are in, then they are to follow the law of the land, doing this is actually a law within shariah law. To respect the law of the land you are in but practice it where there is no contradiction.

Again, what bloody relevance has this got to do with halawa? The priorities here are all over the shop.

Ask why he was protesting, ask why he was on a stage getting involved in a political mess in a different land, but his views on shariah and homosexuality? Very poor.

Absolute bullcrap

Your bias is clearly showing....

Pew Research Center survey of Muslims in 39 countries asked Muslims whether they want sharia law, a legal code based on the Quran and other Islamic scripture, to be the official law of the land in their country. Responses on this question vary widely. Nearly all Muslims in Afghanistan (99%) and most in Iraq (91%) and Pakistan (84%) support sharia law as official law. But in some other countries, especially in Eastern Europe and Central Asia – including Turkey (12%), Kazakhstan (10%) and Azerbaijan (8%) – relatively few favor the implementation of sharia law.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

Sharia law is linked with the most militant brands of Islamists.

IH went to Egypt and actively participated in Muslim Brotherhood protests. The Muslim Brotherhood are same Islamist group which support the introduction of a strict sharia caliphate world wide.

mloc123

littelady wrote: »

IH starts his interview again mentioning he was born in the Coombe I was a normal 17 year old blah blah

His sister is a moany hole she had again an opportunity to thank the Irish government but no. The Irish government bent over backwards for him, put in 20,000 working hours on him come on. I can't abide her at all. She is so bitter.

IH went over to Egypt to voice his & his dad's views Imo. To get up on stage at a rally eh no that's not what normal 17 year olds do.

"Just a normal 17 year old guy... playing football, going to the cinema, buying penny sweets with any pocket money I didn't put into the Trocaire box..."

There was a lot of Taqiyya going on in that interview. Ibrahim went on the radio to discuss his plight & get hugs from the bleeding hearts. Good to see Neil Prendeville did his homework.
In 2010 there was a prime time program on radical Islam in Ireland Shaheed Satardien warned of radicalisation in Ireland & you had the Imam from Clonskeagh Mosque & Dr Ali Salim deny there was any going on. Forward a few years & over 100 went to fight for ISIS including Khalid Kelly. Now we are importing hundreds of men from war torn countries.
If you really think we in Ireland will get away with not having a Islamic terrorist attack then you are very deluded. Should we just come to the same conclusion as the politicians in the UK & Europe & say its just a way of life now. Just go about our daily life & hope it doesn't happen?
We in Ireland had enough of terrorists during the troubles, we have enough killings going on with the gangs, why do we need to import a ticking time bomb?

Help!!!! wrote: »

There was a lot of Taqiyya going on in that interview.

You've no idea what that actually is.

Odhinn wrote: »

You've no idea what that actually is.

I actually do;)

Help!!!! wrote:

There was a lot of Taqiyya going on in that interview.

Odhinn wrote: »

You've no idea what that actually is.

This?

Taqiyya has also been politically legitimised, particularly among Twelver Shias, in order to maintain unity among Muslims and fraternity among the Shia clerics. Yarden Mariuma writes: "Taqiyya is an Islamic juridical term whose shifting meaning relates to when a Muslim is allowed, under Sharia law, to lie.

PeterParker957

Help!!!! wrote: »

Odhinn wrote: »

You've no idea what that actually is.

I actually do;)

Granted it's more common to the Sunni branch of Islam but other parts are able to use it at times.

I'll never understand how people can think debate is shouting down the other person or insulting their knowledge - or denying they have it.

gozunda wrote: »

This?

For starters its primarily a shia thing. Halawa is sunni.

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Granted it's more common to the Sunni branch of Islam but other parts are able to use it at times.

I'll never understand how people can think debate is shouting down the other person or insulting their knowledge - or denying they have it.

When their "knowledge" is lacking and what they have is wrong, it's generally where ye start. (You've got it backwards there, btw).

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Granted it's more common to the Sunni branch of Islam but other parts are able to use it at times.

I'll never understand how people can think debate is shouting down the other person or insulting their knowledge - or denying they have it.

A devout Muslim prays 5 times a day which includes killing the Jews & infidels but of course its a religion of peace:rolleyes:

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Granted it's more common to the Sunni branch of Islam but other parts are able to use it at times.

I'll never understand how people can think debate is shouting down the other person or insulting their knowledge - or denying they have it.

Or even that other posters are gullible eejits who will believe just about any unreferenced opinion ...

See the "All Muslims love Sharia" bs posted previously ....

Odhinn wrote: »

For starters its primarily a shia thing. Halawa is sunni.

All Muslims use it

Quran

Quran (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly.

But then again I dont know anything about Islam;)

Help!!!! wrote: »

All Muslims use it

Nope.

Help!!!! wrote: »

Quran (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly.

....lifted from a notorious hate site. Not linking back to a source is a bit of a no-no, and pointless when we can just drop the quote in google and trace it back.

Help!!!! wrote: »

But then again I dont know anything about Islam;)

Given your choice of website I'd have to agree.

Ash.J.Williams

Help!!!! wrote: »

A devout Muslim prays 5 times a day which includes killing the Jews & infidels but of course its a religion of peace:rolleyes:

No they don't

Help!!!! wrote: »

A devout Muslim prays 5 times a day which includes killing the Jews & infidels but of course its a religion of peace:rolleyes:

Step away from the white powder.....

Odhinn wrote: »

Nope.

....lifted from a notorious hate site. Not linking back to a source is a bit of a no-no, and pointless when we can just drop the quote in google and trace it back.

Given your choice of website I'd have to agree.

Sure all website or quotes are lies to you unless it comes from the Grand Mufti.
Have you listened to Ayaan Hirshi Ali or Imam Tawhidi?

Help!!!! wrote: »

Sure all website or quotes are lies to you unless it comes from the Grand Mufti.

A non sequitur.

Why do you think you'd find anything reliable about a thing from a website that exists purely to undermine its subject?

Help!!!! wrote: »

Have you listened to Ayaan Hirshi Ali or Imam Tawhidi?

I have, and must say I'm suprised to see you champion Hirshi Ali, given her dubious history with regards immgration.

Odhinn wrote: »

A non sequitur.

Why do you think you'd find anything reliable about a thing from a website that exists purely to undermine its subject?

I have, and must say I'm suprised to see you champion Hirshi Ali, given her dubious history with regards immgration.

Well I guess thats your opinion
Well why not, ex Muslim victim of FGM. I would have no problem with ex Muslims coming to our country as they are trying to escape from MB, Sharia law etc

beefburrito

Is Ibrahim Alawite,Shia or Sunni ?

Help!!!! wrote: »

Well I guess thats your opinion

No, that's a question.
It's a hate site. You seem to think its as source of objective information. Why?

Help!!!! wrote: »

Well why not, ex Muslim victim of FGM. I would have no problem with ex Muslims coming to our country as they are trying to escape from MB, Sharia law etc

Suprising, given your fondness for white power affiliated groupings.

You might want to do more reading on Hirst Ali, however.

beefburrito wrote: »

Is Ibrahim Alawite,Shia or Sunni ?

Sunni.

JPCN1

Odhinn wrote: »

Step away from the white powder.....

Has flour suddenly become haram? Hard to keep up with you guys and your lists.

beefburrito

Odhinn wrote: »

Sunni.

Ahem I'm sure if he was Shi'a,Allawite or Sufi he wouldn't have been there in the first place....

I don't like the Sunni interpretation of Islam

beefburrito wrote: »

Ahem I'm sure if he was Shi'a,Allawite or Sufi he wouldn't have been there in the first place....

I don't like the Sunni interpretation of Islam

Not sure as to official tolerance of minority sects in Egypt so I can't comment.

Well (as ever) its a bit more complicated than that, there's Sunni (broad grouping) and factions/schools with in it. A conservative bunch would be Wahabi Sunnis and the offshoots of that.