Buford T. Justice V wrote: » Quick question. Do Dairtgold and Glanbia have a collection charge for milk?
cute geoge wrote: » Can you tell us how you get away with breaching 250kg/h and being able to get any payments at all !!! Imo going forward if you have not extra acres to lower stocking rate the dept.will put you out of business .Would you not consider renting map acres rough grazing or the likes €40/acre and still draw your sfp
jaymla627 wrote: » Last 5 years have exceeded the 250kgs limit and am now going into silly numbers will be up over 500kgs next year, problem is I rent a lot of ground over 5 times my grazing block but haven't the maps and land owners won't allow us to export slurry on paper but 90% of slurry I produce is spread on this ground, have never had a inspection touchwood and I reckon when they have no hold over your re fines on sfp the department don't give a fiddlers but given the crazy numbers of 500kgs plus been put up in the system it will trigger a red flag[/quote If there’s ever a river polluted in your area etc you’ll be well fooked tho,as whilst u may not be the cause as your figure is so high the onus will be on u to prove that u are not the cause ,consultant reports epa etc ain’t cheap
degetme wrote: » Any rough prices for urea can 0 7 30?
jaymla627 wrote: » Last 5 years have exceeded the 250kgs limit and am now going into silly numbers will be up over 500kgs next year, problem is I rent a lot of ground over 5 times my grazing block but haven't the maps and land owners won't allow us to export slurry on paper but 90% of slurry I produce is spread on this ground, have never had a inspection touchwood and I reckon when they have no hold over your re fines on sfp the department don't give a fiddlers but given the crazy numbers of 500kgs plus been put up in the system it will trigger a red flag
mahoney_j wrote: » jaymla627 wrote: » Last 5 years have exceeded the 250kgs limit and am now going into silly numbers will be up over 500kgs next year, problem is I rent a lot of ground over 5 times my grazing block but haven't the maps and land owners won't allow us to export slurry on paper but 90% of slurry I produce is spread on this ground, have never had a inspection touchwood and I reckon when they have no hold over your re fines on sfp the department don't give a fiddlers but given the crazy numbers of 500kgs plus been put up in the system it will trigger a red flag[/quote If there’s ever a river polluted in your area etc you’ll be well fooked tho,as whilst u may not be the cause as your figure is so high the onus will be on u to prove that u are not the cause ,consultant reports epa etc ain’t cheap It takes a special someone to be so wreck less with the environment you live on but the real Darwin moment is putting it up on a public forum. This isn't a phuckin whatsapp group
Keepgrowing wrote: » mahoney_j wrote: » It takes a special someone to be so wreck less with the environment you live on but the real Darwin moment is putting it up on a public forum. This isn't a phuckin whatsapp group I'd be certainly keeping my mouth shut also in a similar position, but wreckless with the environment is surely over the top given that he does actually farm enough land for the cows he has, he just doesn't have the maps for them. Talking about derogation anyways, in the ifj yday there was an article about how you might need enough slurry storage for future derogation, isn't that the case now already?, to apply for derogation you already need your full farmyard plans with all winter accommodation and slurry storage sizes etc?
mahoney_j wrote: » It takes a special someone to be so wreck less with the environment you live on but the real Darwin moment is putting it up on a public forum. This isn't a phuckin whatsapp group
jaymla627 wrote: Last 5 years have exceeded the 250kgs limit and am now going into silly numbers will be up over 500kgs next year, problem is I rent a lot of ground over 5 times my grazing block but haven't the maps and land owners won't allow us to export slurry on paper but 90% of slurry I produce is spread on this ground, have never had a inspection touchwood and I reckon when they have no hold over your re fines on sfp the department don't give a fiddlers but given the crazy numbers of 500kgs plus been put up in the system it will trigger a red flag
kowtow wrote: » Do you get all the texts about it?
K.G. wrote: » But it is only on paper hes at 500kilos.from what i gather he has the land but has no acess to maps.is that correct.if hes not actually polluting what difference does it make
mahoney_j wrote: » If anything untold be it water contamination or pollution of some form happens said poster will be wide open to having book thrown at him ,the onus will be on him to prove that he ain’t causing it (even tho he may not be )this will be a very costly exercise with various consultants and epa involved ,huge cost .i asked a simillar question to a co co inspector last year and that was his reply
K.G. wrote: » By the same token the epa will have to prove nitrates in the river came directly from his farm.different story if it was pollution from his yard or something
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » Wow. I'm working out my N allowances atm...
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » Spent a couple of hours this morning working on my nitrates for 2018. The consultant came up with the figure of 55.5kgN/ha. In my calculations that comes to around 45units/acre...you lads would have my full yearly allowance used by Jan...!! During a fag break I mentioned to him the 500+kg/ha posted here. I reckon he thought I was bullsh1tting him...first fine, he said, would be to lose my sfp and then I'd be brought up as an environmental bandit in front of a judge and would be severely fined. Would also/probably lose my right to farm. Some difference between two countries...
Keepgrowing wrote: » They have to prove no such thing in order for them to lobby for greater water source protection, lower nitrate levels, shorter spreading period or more storage on a national basis. We all have a responsibility, to our environment and to our industry. A non farmer reading this thread will form a view that not based on understanding the paper N levels. We live in an age where social media is judge, jury and executioner. Be savvy
Buford T. Justice V wrote: » Except he's not at 500kgs, Dawg, he's under the 250max iirc, but doesn't have the maps to show it
Gawddawggonnit wrote: » I wonder would a judge understand? I know that if I was at that level I'd be posting this from jail... Lookit, I've fired out as much (or more) N as anyone over the years, but 'perception' is very important to the industry. Should those green washed ads by Bord Bia greenwash the rivers and coastal waters to be a little more authentic?
Buford T. Justice V wrote: » Greenwashing works both ways, Dawg.https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057811633 And a particularly bright greenwashed forum...https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=572 Now tell me which is closer to reality?:)
Wildsurfer wrote: » Whats your limit there though, I presume its much more than 55kgN/Ha and your just not using your allowance? A bag of Urea in the whole year... You may as well go organic and your halo will shine even brighter. And you picked up on one extreme example posted here , most of us would prefer to stay out of derogation territory and not be subject to the attentions of the dept. My first year in derogation and I've had 3 inspections, two on farm and one satellite.
