humberklog wrote: » Am I wrong in thinking that one of the allegations is that he slipped his hand down some unwilling dudes jeans and grabbed a hold of his todger? I'm no fan of AP, I don't doubt some of alligations...but how would that particular assault work? I've been in the pub with some mates tonight, some gay, and we can't figure out the physicalities of such a situation. We've tried it out and it doesn't seem possible.
DickSwiveller wrote: » Did you and your friends report these incidents to the GardaThat would have been the right thing to do if they affected you that much. Instead, he's been subjected to a witchhunt on twitter and his career is over. Full stop. I don't really care about him but I'm no fan of people making allegations on social media and attracting a vicious mob to slander an individual. That is exactly what has happened here. If these incidents were reported to the authorities I'm sure Porter would have been reprimanded and would have stopped.
david75 wrote: » You’re in a bar and someone sticks their hand down your jocks you simply push him off and tell him To fvck off. If you’re a lad. There have been more aggressive incidents than that. You ever tried to go into a Garda station as a gay guy and say you’ve been assaulted sexually? Try that sometime. Though in fairness they don’t laugh you out of the station as much as they used to. As to why people male or females don’t report this stuff, you probably should read about that for yourself. But it’s certainly nobody’s fault in that situation for feeling that they can’t or cos they’re afraid and ashamed and embarrassed to.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » You don't begin statements with "Do you think..." and "Are you...".
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Curious to know what your profession is given the fact that you don't know what a question is.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Regarding the due prosess, fair point - but you seem to have made you mind up based on information that is not based on fact. I may be wrong here - totally open to that - I'm not going back and reading your every post on the topic.
STB. wrote: » Are we really having a disucssion about spoken inflections and written question marks. I didnt expect an answer.
Curious eh.
But you'll have to if you think I have made allegations or assume I have made my mind up. As I said earlier I took someone to task over when they were attempting to say that the allegations and victim statements were not serious. They most certainly are. I do not have to worry about what has been published as fact. The newspapers and media do, if the allegations are untrue. Do you think its strange that he has resigned from Today FM ? Do you think its strange that his TV show has been pulled by TV3 ? Do you think that it is stange that he is being replaced in a panto ? Perhaps these organisations did not understand due process.
screamer wrote: » Let's just wonder here for those who think that if these allegations are true he should not lose his career....if he were an employee who did that stuff to a colleague he'd be out on his ear. Given that some of these alleged assaults happened during the course of working (gigs) etc then I see no difference, and TBH working in such public roles as he does makes his position untenable if the allegations are true.
DickSwiveller wrote: » Lets say he admits to the accusations, apologizes and vows never to engage in such behaviour again, do you really think his whole career should be ruined? Such a situation should be dealt with in a calm and considered manner, not dictated by online mobs. I typed Al Porter's name in to twitter and couldn't believe the amount of bile aimed at him.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Yes.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Very. Obviously, it's nothing law based.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » "Due process" typically refers to the administration of legal justice. There's no legal case here. At least, not yet. Also, he stood aside willingly in some of these cases, so the organisations made no decision. What you've done here is formed an opinion, which is fine. No problem there. But it's not legal fact. (PS - thank you for using question marks )
STB. wrote: » The people who came forward are not happy with his apology either. [[/url]
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » Hang on - how did we get to groping and kissing another man in a psychaitric ward?! He;s not Jimmy ****ing Saville, for ****'s sake (at least, not based on current information)
cisk wrote: » Think you’ve missed thishttp://www.broadsheet.ie/2017/11/20/a-hospital-visit/
STB. wrote: » Are we really having a disucssion about spoken inflections and written question marks? I didnt expect an answer. Curious eh. But you'll have to if you think I have made allegations or assume I have made my mind up. As I said earlier I took someone to task over when they attempted to say that the allegations and victim statements were not serious. They most certainly are. I do not have to worry about what has been published as fact. The newspapers and media do, if the allegations are untrue. Do you think its strange that he has resigned from Today FM ? Do you think its strange that his TV show has been pulled by TV3 ? Do you think that it is stange that he is being replaced in a panto ? Perhaps these organisations did not understand due process.
Guy:Incognito wrote: » If they actually wanted an apology from him, surely theyd have contacted him directly , or even through a lawyer , and not by telling the world on twitter thought, No? They move in the same circles do they not ( the fellow comedians)
Noob Saibot wrote: » One the great things about this is that breed of pery, overbearing gay guy now realises that his hilarious camp 'flirting' is not acceptable.
Sam Quentin wrote: » I am lmao(not really)at all these insinuations and filth ANNNND bile and judgemental comments lmao... About a 24yr old YOUNG FELLA.. Makes me realise how many nasty pieces of shít are on boards and social media in general..... ffs he grabbed somebody by the goooolies(apparently). And to make things EVEN worse for you nasty posters it was a few years ago jaysizzzzz creeeeest. I'll have to take some of you with me on a Saturday night(on my rounds)and see what some youngsters get up to..Bloody Ridiculous.
EIREDriver wrote: » I'm in my early 20s and what he's accused of doing is in no way the norm for "youngsters". Grabbing someone "by the goolies" is sexual assault and I'm glad people on here and on social media are disgusted by his actions.
alan partridge aha wrote: » Exactly, saw him on LLS a while back, he said some disgusting things about a male boxer who had been on immediately before that. It was of a sexual nature. Tubs just laughed at his comments and moved on. If it was a straight comedian on saying what he'd do with Katie Taylor l doubt Tubs would have been the same. Delighted he's been found out.
BuilderPlumber wrote: » Al Porter's actions and his defence of them are disgusting. Porter is (yet) another media created 'sensation' whose artificially created 'fame' owes almost 100% to Tubridy, etc. and whose act concentrates on vulgarity. His lewd behaviour on the Valentines edition of Tubridy's show along with a show aired one Christmas called The Al Porter Show gives us all we need to know about what this man considers funny. I daresay Porter is just the tip of the iceberg and is the result of all the promotion of sleaze that the media have engaged in. I blame Mrs Brown too for making vulgarity mainstream. I am sick of seeing dirt posing as comedy on our screens and as Porter proves, the perpetrators of dirt can engage in actions as well as words. When that happens, it is clearly time to discourage crude, vulgar comedians and their attempts to make obscene actions part of their as Porter calls it 'outrageous public persona'.
_Whimsical_ wrote: » That's exactly it though. We went through years there of celebrating vulgarity as if it signaled that we were just so "right on", open to everything, everyone who didn't find it all a bit f fun was just a prude. It was a ticket from obscurity to having your own national media career for God sake. Al Porter sounds like he believed the adulation he received, what the media, the culture and the people buying his tickets signaled back to him, that filth was now fun, and he acted accordingly. It was in no way acceptable but we can't pretend that the boundaries were as clear as they should've been for a 20 year old who shot to fame here playing that camp crude panto roll. It doesn't sound like he carried things out in private settings with easily manipulated victims for his own sexual kicks. It sounds more like he believed anything goes now and that he continued to play the insufferable character adored on tv into reality. I think that makes him foolish, misled and immature, but not a sex pest who deserves to have his life destroyed.
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