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Star Wars Battlefront 2 - Game Thread

Jerichoholic

I thought it might be good to have a thread just for game discussion instead of a lootbox thread. I know a lot of people are looking forward to it regardless of what mess EA have made of the leveling up system.

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K.O.Kiki

Jerichoholic wrote: »

I'm pretty sure this isn't the fist game and EA aren't the first company that has done this. Can you buy your way to better stuff in COD, Battlefield, CS GO, Overwatch etc.? Of course you can.

The way I see it, the most expensive crate in game is 4000 credits, you can earn that easily in game in about 40 minutes you can also earn credits by hitting challenges etc. I'm NEVER going to buy a lootcrate in this game and I can hold my own no problem the way it is now. And I'm not by any means great at multiplayer games at all.

You actually can't buy your way to better stats in Overwatch.

All their lootcrates are cosmetics: Skins, emotes, voice lines & spray tags.

TerrorFirmer

Jerichoholic wrote: »

I'm pretty sure this isn't the fist game and EA aren't the first company that has done this. Can you buy your way to better stuff in COD, Battlefield, CS GO, Overwatch etc.? Of course you can.

Not positive about COD: WW2 but the other games you've mentioned are all cosmetic only. Pretty sure COD as well is almost entirely cosmetic.

Eurogamer are now reporting that physical sales of BF2 are actually down 60% compared to the first game.

[Deleted User]

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Took me about 2 hours to unlock him.

Excellent, thanks.

Jerichoholic

Took me about 2 hours to unlock him.

Kiith

You can still play as Vader. You just need to unlock him with in-game credits.

[Deleted User]

Hey guys,

Can anyone clarify please is it possible to play as Darth Vadar? Getting this as a gift for someone and I know the first thing he's going to want to do is get Darth Vadar. I know that it was possible to purchase the character, but now with the transactions gone will he have much work to unlock Darth Vadar? Is it even possible to unlock him at all at the moment?!

Thanks.

Jerichoholic

I'm pretty sure this isn't the fist game and EA aren't the first company that has done this. Can you buy your way to better stuff in COD, Battlefield, CS GO, Overwatch etc.? Of course you can.

The way I see it, the most expensive crate in game is 4000 credits, you can earn that easily in game in about 40 minutes you can also earn credits by hitting challenges etc. I'm NEVER going to buy a lootcrate in this game and I can hold my own no problem the way it is now. And I'm not by any means great at multiplayer games at all.

johnny_ultimate

Mod note: So we all know this is a 'controversial' game, but we already have two threads talking about the loot box stuff (one on this game particularly as opposed to the wider topic). If you want to discuss that, can we request you take to those threads and leave this for those who are playing the game and want to discuss it on its own terms rather than be lectured for buying it

Don't want to shut down the discussion or anything, but realistically there will be people playing who don't want to hear about 'the outrage' every time they post so better to keep to the dedicated thread rather than overlapping. Thanks all!

Other thread here

Sonics2k

Jerichoholic wrote: »

The outrage over this is beyond embarrassing. You'd swear EA were murdering children. I take you don't own the game let alone have even played it?

That's the key point. People wanted to buy the game, but are now refusing to because of the whole controversy around basically turning this into a Pay to win mobile game.

I love Star Wars, I've been genuinely excited about the prospect of playing Battlefront 2. However, I'm not excited about playing a game where you can literally buy the ability to defeat people easily.

Jerichoholic

The outrage over this is beyond embarrassing. You'd swear EA were murdering children. I take you don't own the game let alone have even played it?

Captain Obvious

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Well I'm enjoying the game I won't have anyone tell me not to buy something I know I'll enjoy. Problem with the stuff being turned off is I can't level up my starfighters now, I've earned plenty of credits from matches to get the lootboxes (yes you earn plenty by winning matches imagine that?) but they are turned off.

So I reckon they are coming back but not as in game real money purchases, I suppose they are figuring out the best way to do that, It's a shame that people who don't own the game or play the game are dictating what happens to those of us who are actually trying to enjoy it.

Well it's not just what happens to you is it? It's what happens to Star Wars games in the future. It's what happens to EA games in the future. It's what happens to games by others who like how EA have extracted every cent they can from players.

Jerichoholic

Absolutely not being shafted. Played the campaign, was good. Playing Starfighter assault which is really good fun, so I'm getting my money's worth I'd say.

Canis Lupus

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Well I'm enjoying the game I won't have anyone tell me not to buy something I know I'll enjoy. Problem with the stuff being turned off is I can't level up my starfighters now, I've earned plenty of credits from matches to get the lootboxes (yes you earn plenty by winning matches imagine that?) but they are turned off.

So I reckon they are coming back but not as in game real money purchases, I suppose they are figuring out the best way to do that, It's a shame that people who don't own the game or play the game are dictating what happens to those of us who are actually trying to enjoy it.

Maybe you like getting shafted but I don't. I'm sorry that we're hating a sh*tty gouging mechanic and trying to make sure they will be discouraged from doing the same thing in the future and making gaming a smidgen better in the process.

Jerichoholic

Well I'm enjoying the game I won't have anyone tell me not to buy something I know I'll enjoy. Problem with the stuff being turned off is I can't level up my starfighters now, I've earned plenty of credits from matches to get the lootboxes (yes you earn plenty by winning matches imagine that?) but they are turned off.

So I reckon they are coming back but not as in game real money purchases, I suppose they are figuring out the best way to do that, It's a shame that people who don't own the game or play the game are dictating what happens to those of us who are actually trying to enjoy it.

CalamariFritti

These inside practices are not so hard to understand. Its companies trying to squeeze money out of their product. It's what they all do these days. The new angle is that these are games you already paid full price for. I absolutely welcome companies being told what people think of that.

As it happens to a smaller degree that was already happening in BF1. You could buy these upgrade packs if I recall correctly. It just wasn't an ongoing thing.

SeantheMan

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Is that lad willfully ignorant? EA turned off in game purchases, you can't buy anything even if you wanted to.

1. Yes it was posted before the lootboxes temporary removal.
2. Lootboxes will still be coming back at some stage
3. Just because they are turned off for the moment doesn't mean it's suddenly a reason to rejoice and buy the game...we should boycott it anyways
4. That 'lad' is a games designer who has worked on the likes of Bulletstorm, Painkiller, Vanishing of Ethan Carter and others. So it's fair to say he has a better understanding of the industry and it's inside practices than we do.

Northern Monkey

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Is that lad willfully ignorant? EA turned off in game purchases, you can't buy anything even if you wanted to.

It was probably posted before the u turn.

Jerichoholic

SeantheMan wrote: »

If in the future every game has lootboxes and microtransactions...I'm blaming all of you here for buying the game anyways :P

Is that lad willfully ignorant? EA turned off in game purchases, you can't buy anything even if you wanted to.

Canis Lupus

The meme is old but people literally can't help themselves. They'll buy into it and kids will use their disposable income or their parents and nothing will change.

SeantheMan

If in the future every game has lootboxes and microtransactions...I'm blaming all of you here for buying the game anyways :P

CalamariFritti

The campaign is really quite good. Must go to bed now.

[Deleted User]

Captain Obvious wrote:

The Jimquisition review has put me right off

I'd ignore it, it's a typical Sterling angry click bait rant. I've now tried the game on PC, Xbox and PS4 and seen no stuttering or had any issues. The game runs well, looks great and at this stage and I'm having fun with it and happy to play more of it.

Captain Obvious

The Jimquisition review has put me right off

Temptamperu

I waited for a deep sale on the first one and will do the same with this one.

Keyzer

Read the ARS Technica review, jesus its sobering...

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/11/star-wars-battlefront-ii-review-nope-nope-nope-nope-nope-nope-nope/

[Deleted User]

Played a decent amount of the game and like it, played on both Xbox and PS4 and not had a single issue with connection or bugs popping up. Was linked to a Jim Sterling video in which he appears to moan about bugs for 5 minutes but I've not had a single issue so far. If you are experiencing lag it may be worthwhile doing a little troubleshooting, open your ports, clear your alternate mac address and so on.

Jerichoholic

I'll check that out. Wasn't as bad there now, still happened twice though.

CalamariFritti

Jerichoholic wrote: »

I played through the campaign yesterday, it was a decent if not great Star Wars story. Some levels were really annoying but some were incredible. Characters stuck with me after too so I'd say it was a solid effort.

Tried MP last night but was having other players just appearing and disappearing in front of me, along with me just randomly appearing 10 feet away from where I was. I hope that's just a server thing otherwise I'll be trading that in.

I didn't experience any kind of lag stuff. I came across somewhere in settings a line that said Server: EA Ireland, ping 11ms. I dont know if that number is real but it is a very good number.

Jerichoholic

I played through the campaign yesterday, it was a decent if not great Star Wars story. Some levels were really annoying but some were incredible. Characters stuck with me after too so I'd say it was a solid effort.

Tried MP last night but was having other players just appearing and disappearing in front of me, along with me just randomly appearing 10 feet away from where I was. I hope that's just a server thing otherwise I'll be trading that in.

CalamariFritti

Its starting to grow on me. Decided to play some multiplayer stuff and its not bad. Its more tactical than BF1. I think its because the characters move at more realistic speeds which seems to make the typical 'keep running and shooting' approach less of a done thing. Campaign is really quite good. Good mixture of FPS and vehicle action. I actually have to learn flying the bloody star fighters which never appealed to me before but I'm starting to get the hang of it.

Still want Cargo.

I know I only just put my toe in it but so far I don't get the outrage over the micro transactions. Not saying its not a profiteering thing, it is, but you can simply not buy into it - literally - and it doesn't automatically turn you into cannon fodder. I think all the criticism is valid but I don't think it destroys the game.
Be some laugh if you could transfer your BF1 crystals into BF2 ones. I have an actual 1 million there. Misspent youth middle-age. :eek: As you pay $20 for 2100 in BF2 they would be worth about 10 grand in Bf2. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Edit: Seeing on the other thread it seems today EA have removed buying crystals due to the sh1tstorm. Nobody talked about the game and everyone was just talking about micro transaction. They must have figured it really will hurt sales. Result I guess. Maybe we can get back focussing on the actual game now.