Irish Praetorian wrote: » Fair points all, although I think it's a bit of a leap to suggest that taking issue with Russian foreign policy (or rather with those obsequiously fawning over it on forums like this) is anyhow related to wanting to overthrow Mr. Putin. Whatever might be said about him and how we might approach him, he does appear to have quite a standing in Russia. That being said, I feel no need as some posters do, to worship him as some kind of second coming.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Isis was in trouble when they took on different factions from all sides, it was inevitable they would lose all the land they gained. Russia joined helping Assad speedied up the eventual collapse. Isis is not defeated they have just moved location and now are setting up in Afghanistan and other unstable places to continue the fight against the unbelievers. Isis can easily emerge again in Syria and Iraq their movements need to be tracked closely to stop them. Regarding Putin. He is essentially is a dictator, but Russia is stable and better off day than the Soviet era. Removing Putin maybe not be the best thing for Russia and the World, it hard to tell.
Chrongen wrote: » An adult wouldn't spit out such an epithet as "I like Russia and I don't like the West" You had a smidgen of credibility until the childish snipes emerged.
Irish Praetorian wrote: » It may be due to the fact that some of us possess a view of events in the Middle-East with a bit more nuance than 'Russia has defeated ISIS in Syria'. Part of me is stunned that anyone could come to this remarkably complicated ethno-religious political issue and write such a simple minded remark, but perhaps that's a conscious choice on your part. I for one could not conceive of attributing the downfall of ISIS to anything less than a combination of Syrian, Iraqi, Kurdish and Turkish forces, supported by aerial intervention from NATO and Russia over the course of several years. If you have a more substantial point to make than 'I like Russia and I don't like the West' you will need to make a more nuanced argument than the one above.
Chrongen wrote: » Funny how this thread has died and all protagonists have fallen silent. Russia has defeated ISIS in Syria and for that the world should be thankful. Boris Johnson was in Moscow this week and the buffoon still had the pompous gall to admonish Russia about their government and how they do things. Syrian women led a peace procession holding the portraits of Russian military men who shed their blood for the defence of Syria. No such spectacle occurred in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya or Yemen for dead British soldiers, Boris. The pageboy of a flopping empire about which nobody gives a sh1t any more.
server down wrote: » Not attack straw men in your head and actually deal with what the poster said rather than what you assumed he was going to say in the future?
el diablo wrote: » Says it all really. The UN are an extremely corrupt organisation.
Irish Praetorian wrote: » I presume you're referring to the second part of my post rather than the first, to which case what would you have me do instead? Wait for the thread to ponderously and slowly turn into the usual 'only I understand the world you sheeple!' shtick? Broadside the poster and my everyone with the usual essay about how the world is not actually just the pawns of international banking to which Putin is our benevolent saviour? Seriously, what route should I take?
Gatling wrote: » THE UN
el diablo wrote: » According to who?
Gatling wrote: » Ohh almost forgot russia blocked another UN investigation in to the Use of Chemical weapons this week , Despite been the ones calling for an investigation in the first place ,
server down wrote: » Burying criticism in the back pages isn’t getting the information out there.
On 21 July, French and American bombers attacked a government village in Aleppo province, killing up to 125 civilians. This was reported on page 22 of the Guardian; there were no photographs.
Chrongen wrote: » You don't mean to be rude and then go out of your way to be rude.
Irish Praetorian wrote: » Right I'm gonna need footnotes on the following claims; EU being US lapdogs EU&US being responsible for destabilizing Ukraine EU&US installing a puppet government Sir I don't mean to be rude but judging by your username and your comments I suspect any discussion I start with you would eventually go down the route of Jews being responsible for all the worlds misery - now normally I'm up for a few rounds of that but I'm a bit tired these days.
pitifulgod wrote: » There's constant criticism over Yemen but the unfortunate aspect is plenty simply don't care. The information is there, just people choose not to read it much of the time. US foreign policy is under constant criticism and legitimately so. There's tonnes of articles about Yemen in the last 24 hours alone.
server down wrote: » Given the seriousness of Yemen why is not given much more prominence.
el diablo wrote: » The Yanks and their EU lapdogs are responsible for destabilizing Ukraine and installing a puppet government there. Of course Russia were never going to take this lightly. Similar story in Georgia in 2008.
one world order wrote: » Remember it was the Americans supporting a neo nazi group in Ukraine that led to the overthrow of a legitimately elected government. With IMF help, Ukraine have being engaged in a civil war, attacking Russian speaking people in the east. For ever they will be slaves paying interest to the US run IMF and that's US democracy the western media looks up to.
Elmer Blooker wrote: » Where?
