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So, what you playing at the mo? Retro Edition

CiDeRmAn

Me, I'm playing a bit of Metal Slug X, Micromachines, Einhander via PSP and about to play some Daytona on the Saturn, anyone else?

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wheresmahbombs

BTW, "The Next Level" in the title refers to one of Sega's marketing slogans, Welcome to the Next Level.

wheresmahbombs

Already completed Blood's first episode yesterday. I'm at E2M4 (gotta love the '90s FPS level numbers!) right now. I spent a lot of time in the previous level, overlooking one of the switches.

wheresmahbombs

I'm also playing Sonic Adventure 2. Having trouble in the outdoor gravity section of Crazy Gadget right now. I've died over 9,000 times in that section so far.

Shapey Fiend

wheresmahbombs wrote: »

Already completed Blood's first episode yesterday. I'm at E2M4 (gotta love the '90s FPS level numbers!) right now. I spent a lot of time in the previous level, overlooking one of the switches.

I had a go there for half an hour. It's bloody tricky!

Watched a Gggmanlives review there and he says that the first episode is actually the hardest one so I might go with a different one to start with.

Dabbling with a little bit of Unreal 1 at the moment too because I never got around to it and it's apparently still very good. It's got some pretty huge levels.

wheresmahbombs

Shapey Fiend wrote: »

I had a go there for half an hour. It's bloody tricky!

Watched a Gggmanlives review there and he says that the first episode is actually the hardest one so I might go with a different one to start with.

Dabbling with a little bit of Unreal 1 at the moment too because I never got around to it and it's apparently still very good. It's got some pretty huge levels.

I'm tackling Blood's episodes in order at difficulty level 2. Might crank it up to 3 when I start episode 3.

I haven't yet got my hands on the single-player, campaign-oriented Unreal games, but I have played Unreal Tournament ('99), UT2004 and the latest UT, which I had fun with but had a light playerbase when I played it last year. Maybe I'll come back to it if its playerbase has grown. Not sure if I prefer UT99 or UT2004. Never played UT2003 or UT3.

wheresmahbombs

SA2's Knuckles/Rouge stages can be a pain to get a good rank on first attempt as Sega ruined the radar in that game. In SA1, the radar wasn't order sensitive. It's the opposite in its sequel. The highest I got in Knuckles' stages was a C, more often than not a D or an E, like my recent 2nd attempt on Meteor Herd.
Sonic and Shadow's stages are my favourite. Most of the mech stages with Tails and Eggman were decent.
When I first played SA2 on the PS3 a few months ago, I had a tough time for some reason, likely the controls. Now I'm playing it on Dolphin with an Xbox One controller and I'm mostly having a good time with it. My nostalgia goes to SA1, but from my experience so far, I think SA2 might be the better game overall, thanks to its superior presentation and less pointless fluff.

wheresmahbombs

Now I'm off to Ratchet & Clank 2, which I hold a lot of nostalgia for being the first R&C game I've played.

CiDeRmAn

wheresmahbombs wrote: »

Now I'm off to Ratchet & Clank 2, which I hold a lot of nostalgia for being the first R&C game I've played.

I never got into them myself, preferred the first J&D game but none of the subsequent ones.
Haven on the PS2 is surprisingly good, with some nice fractal effects, and was very cheap and easy to find for a long time, but PS2 games in the wild are getting harder to find.

wheresmahbombs

I never got to play Jak & Daxter. Looks intriguing, though. I'll need to use a different memory card on my PS2 since R&C2 refuses to save onto it.

Never analysed the rarity of PS2 games, but pre-Wii games are already quite difficult to find.

wheresmahbombs

Completed the hero story of Sonic Adventure 2. I give it a solid 4/5 (maybe 4.5/5). Sonic Team USA (SA2 was developed in the USA while SA1 was developed in Japan) did their job interpreting the best parts of SA1 into the game, at least hero story-wise. I'm currently at the 5-minute Rouge stage in the dark story, and this one is often regarded as the game's worst stage.

SA1's quality varies between each character's story. Sonic's is competent, gameplay-wise, while Big's, on the other hand, is just lame. I lean towards Sonic's while I usually overlook Big's and Amy's. Although one day I wanted to play Big's story for ****s and giggles!

Retr0gamer

I played sonic adventure recently and thought it aged incredibly poorly. The engine is held together with sellotape and its full of the same bugs that 2006 had like janky camera, physics and scripted sequences that fail. It's a technical mess. SA2 is found quite boring as well. I just don't think they are good games.

CiDeRmAn

Metropolis Street Racer is the racing game of the gods!
Seriously, the amount of innovation, firsts, that are in the.
And the racing itself, just brilliant.
Try to get Daytona for the DC, and dial back the controller sensitivity, you won't believe it's a 15 year old game.

80s Synth Pop

"Metropolis" Street Racing was followed by Project "Gotham" Racing on XBOX. All good games.

Was DC comics involved in these somehow or was it a developer joke in Bizarre?

Doge

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Metropolis Street Racer is the racing game of the gods!
Seriously, the amount of innovation, firsts, that are in the.
And the racing itself, just brilliant.
Try to get Daytona for the DC, and dial back the controller sensitivity, you won't believe it's a 15 year old game.

Whats so innovative about it! Looking it just looks like an average racer. Cant see how it compares to the might GT series!

MrVestek

Doge wrote: »

Whats so innovative about it! Looking it just looks like an average racer. Cant see how it compares to the might GT series!

Right. Time to give your keys to the forum back.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Retr0gamer

Doge wrote: »

Whats so innovative about it! Looking it just looks like an average racer. Cant see how it compares to the might GT series!

Well unlike the GT series MSR is actually fun to play :P

Doge

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Well unlike the GT series MSR is actually fun to play :P

True, but Ciderman is hyping it up to being some super innovative game of the Gods! :pac:

CiDeRmAn

Doge wrote: »

True, but Ciderman is hyping it up to being some super innovative game of the Gods! :pac:

It is
No hype needed!

It's a game built to reward enjoyable driving rather than a slavish adherence to the racing line.
It's got realistic urban tracks, excellent radio stations, great car selection, it's simply sublime.
The real time clock is fantastic too.
You may sense I'm a bit of a fan....

CiDeRmAn

80s Synth Pop wrote: »

"Metropolis" Street Racing was followed by Project "Gotham" Racing on XBOX. All good games.

Was DC comics involved in these somehow or was it a developer joke in Bizarre?

Well, Metropolis is simply a name for a generic big city, and Gotham is a borough of New York.
Bigger reason was the team couldn't bring the Metropolis name with them, the dev team publishing MSR with Sega and the new Gotham titles as first party devs for Microsoft and the Xbox... I think....

o1s1n

Anyone else here rarely play racing games?

I generally don't find myself in the humour to play them, at all.

Doge

o1s1n wrote: »

Anyone else here rarely play racing games?

I generally don't find myself in the humour to play them, at all.

How do you find mario kart and the likes of the fun ones?

I always recommend Motorstorm apocalypse as its really thrilling and Ciderman recommends Motorstorm Pacific Rift.

I guess they're more fun in multiplayer and split screen with friends.

Doge

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

It is
No hype needed!

It's a game built to reward enjoyable driving rather than a slavish adherence to the racing line.
It's got realistic urban tracks, excellent radio stations, great car selection, it's simply sublime.
The real time clock is fantastic too.
You may sense I'm a bit of a fan....

I think from looking at gameplays I'd probably prefer the Midnight Club and older Need For Speed series more.

Midnight Club had some really good soundtracks also especially Dub Edition.

eddhorse

I like the Grid games because after you make a horrendous crash out of a corner, you can rewind and try it again.

CiDeRmAn

Doge wrote: »

I think from looking at gameplays I'd probably prefer the Midnight Club and older Need For Speed series more.

Midnight Club had some really good soundtracks also especially Dub Edition.

Midnight Club was later, though the developers previous games, the Midtown Madness series, predated MSR.

Need for Speed Underground... I just didn't like that modding scene worshipped on those titles, the last great NfS series game of that era was NfS Hot Pursuit 2 on the PS2, though Porsche Challenge on the PC is possibly the best game to have the Need for Speed brand on it.

Noel82

Finished Mario RPG on the classic, very easy but enjoyable RPG. I don't think I died once. From my experience with snes rpg's there's FF6/Chrono Trigger then a big gap between the rest. That said I haven't played 90% of them. Games like Star Ocean, Secret of Mana 2 and Treasure of the rudras look incredible. Next up is Secret of Mana.

Noel82

o1s1n wrote: »

Anyone else here rarely play racing games?

I generally don't find myself in the humour to play them, at all.

I love games like Sega Rally, Super Hang on on the gen/arcade and top gear 2 on the snes. Slightly braggish but would call myself an expert at Super Mario Kart and F-zero :P Me and my brother spent endless hours on SMK playing 150cc to the point if one of us made a minor slip up the race was over. Utilizing the the shoulder buttons and the slide makes the game mechanics pretty deep.

Shapey Fiend

I don't play a ton of racing games but every now and then one gets it's hooks in me and I play it to death. Sonic & Sega All Star Racing Transformed was the last one. Such a wonderful game it's like Outrun 2 on steroids. Learning how to chain your drifts all the way around the course is incredibly fun.

One I can think of before that I got really hooked on was Daytona 2001 for Dreamcast. People give out about the steering being too twitchy but I got over that pretty quickly. The controls are almost more akin to Scud Race than Daytona because the new high performance cars are inclined to spin out if you're not reeeaaally careful. Having the 4 gears on the facebuttons is a great system. Easily spent 150 hours on it and I'd bloody love a go of it now if I still had a Dreamcast.

CiDeRmAn

Shapey Fiend wrote: »

I don't play a ton of racing games but every now and then one gets it's hooks in me and I play it to death. Sonic & Sega All Star Racing Transformed was the last one. Such a wonderful game it's like Outrun 2 on steroids. Learning how to chain your drifts all the way around the course is incredibly fun.

I was disappointed with the two all stars racing games, on Wii and WiiU at least.
Just couldn't get into them, although Sumo have quite the pedigree.
I really wouldn't class them anywhere near the arcade perfection of the Outrun 2/SP/Coast2Coast games though.

One I can think of before that I got really hooked on was Daytona 2001 for Dreamcast. People give out about the steering being too twitchy but I got over that pretty quickly. The controls are almost more akin to Scud Race than Daytona because the new high performance cars are inclined to spin out if you're not reeeaaally careful. Having the 4 gears on the facebuttons is a great system. Easily spent 150 hours on it and I'd bloody love a go of it now if I still had a Dreamcast.

It's a tremendous game, pity so few have played it.

o1s1n

Doge wrote: »

How do you find mario kart and the likes of the fun ones?

I always recommend Motorstorm apocalypse as its really thrilling and Ciderman recommends Motorstorm Pacific Rift.

I guess they're more fun in multiplayer and split screen with friends.

Ah they're alright, but I'd never feel compelled to put one on.

I think it might just come down to what I grew up playing, only racing games I ever invested a lot of time in were Micro Machines, Road Rash 2, Wipeout 2097, Formula 1 '97 and the first Gran Turismo.

That's not to say I haven't acquired load over the years, they just tend to be turned off after 30-60 minutes, if ever switched on in the first place!

I suppose I have played through all the GTA games, do they count?

Shapey Fiend

Anybody got some good Steam racing game recommendations that aren't too graphically intensive? There must be some cool indie ones that passed me by. I bought Flatout 2 a while ago and I'm not enjoying it quite as much as I recall doing on the PS2.