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Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread VIII - MOD NOTE POST #4781

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[Deleted User]

irishfan9 wrote: »

Earls it out due to hamstring.

Where did you hear that

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Where did you hear that

It's over on PR. Reliable enough poster. I'd tend to believe it but as usual wait for the team.

Sanjuro

irishfan9 wrote: »

Earls it out due to hamstring.

You also started the Sexton rumour. I'll believe it when it comes from a more credible source.

Podge_irl

Sanjuro wrote: »

You also started the Sexton rumour. I'll believe it when it comes from a more credible source.

He's not starting anything, they're just sharing what they heard.

If you want to wait for credible sources there is not much point looking at discussion boards before the IRFU team announcement.

prawnsambo

madds wrote: »

Last year's victory over NZ in Chicago is doing the rounds on social media again. Does anyone know the name of the piece of music in this piece?

Irish Rugby TV: Ireland v New Zealand Tunnel Cam

Thanks.

Sounds like something Steve Jablonsky would write. Probably from a movie.

Edit: Sounds like it's from Transformers.

This track is thematically the same. Especially starting around the 1:20 mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8foTMjFqIk

[Deleted User]

Sanjuro wrote: »

You also started the Sexton rumour. I'll believe it when it comes from a more credible source.

I heard the same thing about Earls yesterday. Just curious on his source.

Rigor Mortis

Podge_irl wrote: »

He's not starting anything, they're just sharing what they heard.

If you want to wait for credible sources there is not much point looking at discussion boards before the IRFU team announcement.

or at an irfu press release

mfceiling

Podge_irl wrote: »

If you want to wait for credible sources there is not much point looking at discussion boards before the IRFU team announcement.

Sure go on then....

Anyone know when the team is announced

irishfan9

mfceiling wrote: »

Sure go on then....

Anyone know when the team is announced

tomorrow, i think

[Deleted User]

mfceiling wrote: »

Sure go on then....

Anyone know when the team is announced

Is normally a Thursday for a Saturday game with Ireland but guess it could be Friday too.

Bazzo

Interested Observer wrote: »

Is normally a Thursday for a Saturday game with Ireland but guess it could be Friday too.

I think the teams have to be announced 48 hours before kickoff don't they?

irishbucsfan

Thursday at 1.45pm I believe

Awesomeness

Around lunchtime

RichieRich89

Deleted User wrote: »

Healy is in terrific form but he isn't the player he was. He is a much more powerful player and scrummager and his tackling and rucking are second to none but he struggles with higher intensity games after 20 minutes or so. McGrath is more aerobic and better to put out for 50 - 60 minutes.

I'd fear South Africa milking points off Kilcoyne in the second half truth be told. He's a fine player in the loose but defensively he lacks the power of McGrath / Healy and at the set piece he is a complete liability when under pressure.

Kilcoyne isn't a fine player in the loose. He has no vision and no handling game. Mako Vunipola he ain't. It's reductionist to think that ball-carrying is the only aspect of loose play that matters. If McGrath is out it would have been better to have Bealham in there as a loosehead imo

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RichieRich89 wrote: »

Kilcoyne isn't a fine player in the loose. He has no vision and no handling game. Mako Vunipola he ain't. It's reductionist to think that ball-carrying is the only aspect of loose play that matters. If McGrath is out it would have been better to have Bealham in there as a loosehead imo

Bealham is a TH Buckley is the undisputed first choice LH in Connacht

RichieRich89

connemara man wrote: »

Bealham is a TH Buckley is the undisputed first choice LH in Connacht

Bealham covered loosehead off the bench in at least one of the matches in South Africa in 2016, and has featured there for Connacht as well. Schmidt, I suspect, thinks Buckley is too small for Test rugby. Giving Bealham experience at loosehead could be a useful exercise as he could end up being the prop who is asked to cover both sides in a World Cup squad

Bazzo

RichieRich89 wrote: »

Bealham covered loosehead off the bench in at least one of the matches in South Africa in 2016, and has featured there for Connacht as well. Schmidt, I suspect, thinks Buckley is too small for Test rugby. Giving Bealham experience at loosehead could be a useful exercise as he could end up being the prop who is asked to cover both sides in a World Cup squad

Bealham's scrummaging from loosehead is really fairly average. Buckley is very similar in height and weight to Kane Hames who was starting for the All Blacks recently at LH.

stephen_n

Former Former wrote: »

I think there are some crossed wires there, Kearney, Byrne and Sweetnam only re-joined the squad yesterday. They couldn't be gone again.

So it's OK, Dave will take his rightful spot on Saturday and we can put all this Stockdale nonsense behind us.

I'm not sure, but it was reported on the radio they had been released from the squad, can't remember which station as it could have been the car or in work.

prawnsambo

Bazzo wrote: »

Bealham's scrummaging from loosehead is really fairly average. Buckley is very similar in height and weight to Kane Hames who was starting for the All Blacks recently at LH.

I was always led to believe that an individual front row forward's height was only a problem relative to the height of the other front rows.

Neil3030

I'd say it won't be long before we can field a fairly Saffer style pack:

McGrath - 6"1, 120kg
Best - 5"11, 110kg
Furlong - 6"1, 125kg
Toner - 6"10, 125kg
Ryan - 6"8, 110kg (and will likely rise)
Henderson - 6"7, 120kg
O'Brien - 6"2, 110kg
Heaslip - 6"4, 110kg

RichieRich89

Bazzo wrote: »

Bealham's scrummaging from loosehead is really fairly average. Buckley is very similar in height and weight to Kane Hames who was starting for the All Blacks recently at LH.

Well maybe it's more about having the frame to carry enough weight naturally rather than just weight then. Schmidt advised James Tracy to switch to hooker because he didn't think he was big enough for international rugby as a loosehead, so it is something Schmidt looks for.

irishfan9

Neil3030 wrote: »

I'd say it won't be long before we can field a fairly Saffer style pack:

McGrath - 6"1, 120kg
Best - 5"11, 110kg
Furlong - 6"1, 125kg
Toner - 6"10, 125kg
Ryan - 6"8, 110kg (and will likely rise)
Henderson - 6"7, 120kg
O'Brien - 6"2, 110kg
Heaslip - 6"4, 110kg

Some of those stats I'd be skeptical about, also by all accounts leinster are trying to slim down there forwards, presumably ireland doing the same.

stephen_n

irishfan9 wrote: »

Some of those stats I'd be skeptical about, also by all accounts leinster are trying to slim down there forwards, presumably ireland doing the same.

Depends on the forward, they spent a good bit of time bulking up Ross Moloney last year.

irishfan9

stephen_n wrote: »

Depends on the forward, they spent a good bit of time bulking up Ross Moloney last year.

Well obviously yes, because he is undersized.. they've gone the opposite way with lads who can carry much more weight - Porter, Healy, Toner, Conan to name a few.

stephen_n

irishfan9 wrote: »

Well obviously yes, because he is undersized.. they've gone the opposite way with lads who can carry much more weight - Porter, Healy, Toner, Conan to name a few.

I thought looking at Conan this year that he has bulked up, as has Jordi. Healy though has definitely slimmed down noticeably.

prawnsambo

stephen_n wrote: »

I thought looking at Conan this year that he has bulked up, as has Jordi. Healy though has definitely slimmed down noticeably.

Healy put on a bucketload of weight during his injury layoff. He was quite... ahem... portly when he came back.

Burkie1203

Does Thornley /IT usually have a 'probable' team of a Wednesday evening?

Burkie1203

Kearney, Earls, Aki, Henshaw, Stockdale Sexton, Murray
Healy, Best, Furlong, Toner, Henderson, PoM, SoB, Stander

Kilcoyne, Herring, Ryan, Dillane; Ruddock, Marmion, Carbery, Conway

Above is According to Thornley

Erik Shin

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Kearney, Earls, Aki, Henshaw, Stockdale Sexton, Murray
Healy, Best, Furlong, Toner, Henderson, PoM, SoB, Stander

Kilcoyne, Herring, Ryan, Dillane; Ruddock, Marmion, Carbery, Conway

Above is According to Thornley

Pretty much as most here would guess too

irishbucsfan

Spot on team if that's it