commited wrote: » Km/h Speedo was first sign but didn't have Jap rear bootlid. Ran a VIN check then.
unkel wrote: » You always need a bit of luck with bangernomics. Unless you can live with a 90s Toyota as your daily. Me, I'd rather have something a bit more exciting
unkel wrote: » Agreed. But the best value bangernomics cars are usually the ones that the man in the pub says to avoid Some super value for money Alfa GTVs posted here in this thread recently. If only I had a big garage, I'd have 10 cars already, not just 3
JohnBoy26 wrote: » The general opinion and perception of alfa to the public is that of an unreliable car with fall apart build quality.
JohnBoy26 wrote: » it's general opinion of a fanboi tbh, or at least the one they'd like people to think. The general opinion and perception of alfa to the public is that of an unreliable car with fall apart build quality.
selous wrote: » Like my Subaru legacy Diesel, full main dealer service on time every time, all parts from them....crankshaft still snapped....(yep, still bitter)
JohnBoy26 wrote: » Ya but a poster asked are alfas reliable and they were given the usual fanboi "if it's maintained it's a reliable as anything" answer. The maintenance argument is usualy vague by them. By maintained they imply proper servicing, changing the oil on time etc but you need to go well above and beyond regular maintenance and replace a whole bunch of parts as preventive maintenance to make them some bit reliable and even then they can be a nightmare. The above poster was just alluding to the fact that a fairly regular poster on here, a car enthusiast, who is known to keep his cars properly maintained bought into that fanboi argument and purchased an alfa gt, maintained it properly like the fanbois said and still the car let him down badly.
bear1 wrote: » I don't think it's a fanboi approach but ones general opinion. I would consider myself a fan of the brand but wouldn't ever say they are fault free. Some require more care and some don't and I'm using my own experiences to base this on.
unkel wrote: » That's lovely bear1, the right colour, right leather, right wheels and the right shape. Future classic! If you get burned by a bangernomics car, you're not doing it right. First sign of expensive trouble => dump the car and get another bangernomics
selectamatic wrote: » a well known poster who is known round here for taking exceptional care of his cars and also buying very clean examples was burned badly by a gt.
ELM327 wrote: » I've never seen an alfa with rust. I've had a rusty 320d and a couple of rusty VAG cars but never so much as seen an alfa with rust.
ELM327 wrote: » I owned an alfa 156 before which I bought for the princely sum of 500 quid with a few months tax and new NCT. Essentially a free car with the amount of tax. Never a day's bother with it, I sold it on when the tax ran out for the same amount I paid for it. I don't get the hate for alfas. They are as reliable as any other car, sure they aren't a Carina E/Corolla 1.3EFI from the 90's but sure what is these days.
selectamatic wrote: » Ay I'd agree with all that and I'd view the 156 and 159 as Alfa's 2 most reliable offerings of recent years and both your own and 166 man's 159's are alfa's I'd love to own. My point was more to do with the gt and especially given the fact that a well known poster who is known round here for taking exceptional care of his cars and also buying very clean examples was burned badly by a gt. And yet there's another poster who has one that's been grand but they're definitely a mixed bag reliability wise.
bear1 wrote: » The same could be said for the majority of cars out there. Even cars which have the stigmata of utter reliability can cause serious heartache. To give my own perspective, I owned 2 156s. 1 a 2.4 and 1 a 1.9. Wrecked the engine in the 2.4 which was reliable before that and the replacement was a pile of ****e which kept going wrong. The 1.9 on the other hand didn't cause any issues. I've the 159 now 2 months and it's been very good to me but of course it's early days and I've probably jinxed it. Agree with the gt, lights are what ruin it for me but give me a brera any day of the week!
selectamatic wrote: » Tbf a well known poster on here had an Alfa gt earlier in the year and it broke his heart so people saying just service them and mind them and they'll be fine are being a touch disingenuous. The truth lies somewhere in the middle; they're alright if minded like a baby, have a nice layout inside, great seats, parts are dear-ish and some items are alot more difficult to fix than they should be. So make of that what ye will, they're certainly not very reliable but they're not sh1te either. Also the arse on the gt is such a let down ruins an otherwise brilliant looking car.
JohnBoy26 wrote: » In theory maybe but in the real world it just doesn't ring true
Quazzie wrote: » I'm assuming this is sarcasm
punisher5112 wrote: » Serious rust issues on them Alfas be careful.
