danganabu wrote: » Only the lost sheep could argue with a straight face that a college of 200 students should be competing at the same grade as a university of 15,000 plus
Vronsky wrote: » There is little or no green space out in Dartry now since they expanded student residences there almost 15 years ago. They have playing fields out in Santry which have been recently redeveloped. Anyway, I still think the cricket pitch should be used by other sports, particularly for the big competitive games - if just to give these sports some profile and exposure in the college.
Bonniedog wrote: » I played a few knockabout games on the rugby pitch and it was like playing in a car park! Goals were also about 5 feet from windows both ends so there was occassional collateral damage. Cricket pitch is superb and is also used as running track so I would not interfere with it. I thought they had pitches out southside somewhere, where the student accommodation is? But long time since I was there.
The Lost Sheep wrote: » :rolleyes: Yeah because numbers of students alone should be reason alone for determining what division teams are in. Teams are graded based on ability/performance in previous years. there was issue for a few years relatively recently where pitch was laid and the surface failed about 2/3 years ago and it was very bad but before that the surface wasn't that bad and certainly not a "joke" And is cricket pitch big enough for a gaa pitch as I don't think shape of the oval in trinity is anywhere near suitable for a gaa pitch
The Lost Sheep wrote: » :rolleyes: Yeah because numbers of students alone should be reason alone for determining what division teams are in. Teams are graded based on ability/performance in previous years.
danganabu wrote: » Only the lost sheep could argue with a straight fact that a college of 200 students should be competing at the same grade as a university of 15,000 plus Your a gas man!
Vronsky wrote: » The rugby pitch on the grounds was a joke because it usually had as much grass and is as hard as a concrete yard. It was dangerous. Contrast that with the beautifully soft underused cricket pitch across the way. They put in a new rugby pitch recently though so it might be better now. If I was head of sport in there, Trinity GAA would be playing their home league games on what is the Cricket pitch. If the games were on campus it would boost the sports profile, and more students might take up sport.
The Lost Sheep wrote: » why is the rugby pitch in the grounds a joke?? But if you go by numbers then ITs wouldn't be competing against the university's?? At what stage do you break up teams by size of college??
Bonniedog wrote: Trinners is great place. Mostly lost its old West Brit ambience. When I was there I was playing with club and would never have crossed my mind to play for the college. GAA was almost anonymous there, but as I said it is not a sports oriented place. The rugby pitch in the college grounds is a joke. Maybe they have improved and play somewhere else. Left a good while ago.
North Cork Star wrote: Well with that scoreline, there is something badly wrong with the grading here. Imagine if that scoreline happened an underage team. I understand it is harder to judge with college teams but shouldn't St. Pat's have ensured they were put into the right division. They will have to be regraded now before the championship which usually occurs after Christmas. Also, numbers does have a factor too. In this case, the numbers are stacked totally against St. Pat's favour.
Bonniedog wrote: » When I got place in Trinity, someone asked me if I was going to be a gardener! And they were serious.
The Lost Sheep wrote: » university times is a trinity paper it's going to be biased... You can't just base groups based on student numbers. How are you to know what right division would be right? It's usually based on previous years and how teams did in those years.
danganabu wrote: » Jaysus Bonnie wouldn't have had you down as a Trinity head, the mask is slipping :D
North Cork Star wrote: You'd have to feel sorry for St. Pat's Thurles here. Only 200 students in the college with very limited playing numbers and resources, and to be put in the same division as Trinity, with 15,000 students is baffling. There's surely a lower division for St. Pat's to play in. That is a demoralizing defeat for those girls who played for St. Pat's. I texted a friend of mine who is a student in St. Pat's and they are obviously really upset over it and are thinking of packing it in altogether which is sad to see. Put them in the right division and let them get some enjoyment and development out of it. The University Times were not too kind about it either in their article.
Bonniedog wrote: » I'll take your word for it. Only talking about when I was there. Some of best Dublin players were Trinners chaps, Hanahoe and more recently. Of course your man Dick Spring who dropped the ball against England was TCD and a Knight of the Campanile. God help us, a lot of assholes. Most of us ignored that sort of sh1te :-) Other than to take pleasure in above
The Lost Sheep wrote: » Rugby in TCD isnt abysmal. Its in the top flight in the country in club rugby. Have one of strongest under 20 set ups in the country. Nearly always make it to all ireland quarters/semis. Why would Trinity have a GAA tradition. Through history etc...
Bonniedog wrote: » Trinity has no GAA tradition. When I was there almost any student with GAA interest, whether Dub or otherwise, played with a local club. UCD and DCU have major GAA investment including full time coaches. Even rugby in TCD is pretty abysmal. Just not a sports university.
big_drive wrote: » Trinity isn’t even a big gaa stronghold in third level.
