Water Quality: Are the problems exaggerated?

A lot of countries have no culture of drinking tap water even if it's safe and are into the "health benefits" of drinking mineral water.

EPAndlee

I'd only consume tap water if it's boiled and buy bottled water for drinking

Shenshen

I'm not sure the articles are actually that over the top. There are still plenty of lead pipes bringing water into homes right across the country, though boiling the water won't help you with that. And we still have pretty regular incidents of raw sewage and animal waste ending up in our water supply whenever it rains a bit too much.

To put it in perspective, I came to Ireland in my early 30s, and had never heard of the concept of a boil notice ever before. And yes, I was absolutely shocked when I found out what that was about.

Sure we're not prepared to by usage to invest in water infrastructure so don't expect it to improve any time soon.

Rumpy Pumpy

NO WAY, WE WON’T PAY!

The catchphrase or one of the most ill advised, short sighted, and cynical protest movements this country has ever seen.

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

NO WAY, WE WON’T PAY!

The catchphrase or one of the most ill advised, short sighted, and cynical protest movements this country has ever seen.

So utterly self defeating and futile. It beggars belief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4RwiPGGrqQ

EPAndlee wrote: »

I'd only consume tap water if it's boiled and buy bottled water for drinking

Id say those boil notices might affect people in different ways too OP.

Id say its perfectly fine for me a strong health 30 something male to drink the water anywhere in the country. No problem.

It may be quite different if I was a young baby, sick, pregnant or an old pensioner who isnt as strong or healthy or maybe already sick.
Water borne disease and contamination that wont affect most of us at all may weaken or kill them.

Most piping is out of sight, out of mind for most people too until that water is cut off to their house.

Anyways, lets not go here again, its been done to death :pac:

Nobody cares.

suicide_circus wrote: »

So utterly self defeating and futile. It beggars belief.

Yeah that protest never stood a chance.

Water charges still full steam ahead, and FG still railroading whatever legislation they want through the Dail with little to zero debate.

Rick Shaw wrote: »

Yeah that protest never stood a chance.

Water charges still full steam ahead, and FG still railroading whatever legislation they want through the Dail with little to zero debate.

Its amazing FG get away with it. Big bad FG

FG have 50 TDs, perhaps the other 108 should do something about it.

Rick Shaw wrote: »

Yeah that protest never stood a chance.

Water charges still full steam ahead, and FG still railroading whatever legislation they want through the Dail with little to zero debate.

*sigh* future generations will be forever in you debt.

BillyBobBS

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

NO WAY, WE WON’T PAY!

The catchphrase or one of the most ill advised, short sighted, and cynical protest movements this country has ever seen.

Myself and hundreds of thousands who matched disagree.

Shenshen

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Myself and hundreds of thousands who matched disagree.

And the hundreds and thousands who still get regular boil notices or get their water through lead pipes are eternally grateful to you for your efforts, I'm sure.

suicide_circus wrote: »

*sigh* future generations will be forever in you debt.

I wasn't the protest, apart from not engaging with Irish water (which would put me firmly in the majority of our citizens) and being at a march or two with pals that is.

But future generations may well be thankful that our water service's were prevented from being privatised, which was the end goal.

So in that respect. Job well done Ogle, Murphy and co.

Shenshen wrote: »

And the hundreds and thousands who still get regular boil notices or get their water through lead pipes are eternally grateful to you for your efforts, I'm sure.

I think they will not be a problem if the irish water engineering departments are set up and a national network is correctly established.

The politicians will find the money to fund this if the political will is there.

They will just have to go after softer political targets than the average joe who is able to stand up for themselves.

(Think funding for home helps, disabled, community groups that sort of thing)

Rick Shaw wrote: »

I wasn't the protest, apart from not engaging with Irish water (which would put me firmly in the majority of our citizens) and being at a march or two with pals that is.

But future generations may well be thankful that our water service's were prevented from being privatised, which was the end goal.

So in that respect. Job well done Ogle, Murphy and co.

The privatisation thing, I'm not entirely convinced that was the real driving force behind the campaign. Listen, it was an impressive and successful grass routes movement and it was great to see people power in action like that. But badly needed investment in water infrastructure has been set back years. Paying for water by usage is international best practice and absolutely normal for decades in the rest of the developed world. As I said yesterday, how much could the lives of Irish people have been improved if all that effort had gone into demanding an overhauling of the HSE?

suicide_circus wrote: »

The privatisation thing, I'm not entirely convinced that was the real driving force behind the campaign.

I say fair play to the Irish left for seeing the benefits of cutting taxes and limiting state enterprises.

An unexpected manouvre

Roger_007

I have my own well and sewerage treatmentsystem. 3 years ago I had to upgrade the whole system at a cost of €12k. In addition I have to pay, through my taxes, my share for the provision of water and sewerage services for all those ungrateful feckers who do not want to pay for what they get. Those people haven't a clue what those kind of services cost because they have got too used to getting things for nothing.

Hermy

You can drink it but it tastes of chlorine which is horrible.

elperello

Hermy wrote: »

You can drink it but it tastes of chlorine which is horrible.

It won't kill you but neither will it enhance your life.

MilesMorales1

The water here tastes of ****ing chlorine and thats not ok. I never thought I'd be the wanker who paid for bottled water but thats what I do now.

Rick Shaw wrote: »

I wasn't the protest, apart from not engaging with Irish water (which would put me firmly in the majority of our citizens) and being at a march or two with pals that is.

But future generations may well be thankful that our water service's were prevented from being privatised, which was the end goal.

So in that respect. Job well done Ogle, Murphy and co.

Yes. Well Done and thanks for leaving us, our children and their children with a broken infrastructure resulting in boil notices on a regular basis.

There was me thinking that the end game was elimination of charges (hasn’t happened) and endless publicity for a few who have nothing to offer the Country.

suicide_circus wrote: »

The privatisation thing, I'm not entirely convinced that was the real driving force behind the campaign.

i suppose when a minister directly involved in setting up Irish water let's the cat out of the bag ref privatisation, and then Eurostat state the exact same thing, people got suspicious,
Rightly so IMO.

Listen, it was an impressive and successful grass routes movement and it was great to see people power in action like that. But badly needed investment in water infrastructure has been set back years.

I would agree ref the movement, but the misappropriation of taxpayers cash, not being spent pin infrastructure/ improvements can only be blamed on govt, present and previous. I think I read that Irish water had cost the state over 1Billion euro thus far. That would have been much better spent on the infrastructure, rather than call centre's laughing yoga and giving Denis O'Brien state contracts and tax payer funded haircuts on bankrupt companies.

Paying for water by usage is international best practice and absolutely normal for decades in the rest of the developed world.

e even if A: Irish Waters own data says we're among the lowest users of water in the EU despite traditional non metering?
, and
B: FGs own "Expert Commission" reachd the conclusion that in this country, water was best paid for via general taxation. That didn't come from ogle, Murphy or an anonymous internet poster hiding n behind a pseudonym. Maybe a second opinion is needed, but few here would disregard the doctors prescription, just because the medicine isn't nice.

As I said yesterday, how much could the lives of Irish people have been improved if all that effort had gone into demanding an overhauling of the HSE?

Irish water had the potential to become the HSE II. nipped in the bud (if after a billion or mire was squandered) was the best result.

No doubt it'll feature in reeling in the years in the future. Colleges and universities may well base modules on it on how not to set up new entities under a business course or two.

Regardless. It makes FFs evote machine waste small beer in comparison.

Roger_007 wrote: »

I have my own well and sewerage treatmentsystem. 3 years ago I had to upgrade the whole system at a cost of €12k. In addition I have to pay, through my taxes, my share for the provision of water and sewerage services for all those ungrateful feckers who do not want to pay for what they get. Those people haven't a clue what those kind of services cost because they have got too used to getting things for nothing.

In return our taxes pay for your annual govt subsidised grant for maintaining and running it.

I would also guess you pay a substantially smaller LPT than your sewered suburban cousins.

Swings/Roundbouts.

Roger Hassenforder

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes. Well Done and thanks for leaving us, our children and their children with a broken infrastructure resulting in boil notices on a regular basis.

There was me thinking that the end game was elimination of charges (hasn’t happened) and endless publicity for a few who have nothing to offer the Country.

And now we've even less to spend on said infrastructure after we pay for IW.