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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 4) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

Axwell

Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match
The last thread was nearing the 10k post limit so here's part 4.

The same rules as the last thread apply here. People seem to have strong opinions either way when it comes to McGregor and threads here tend to get a bit heated from time to time. Please keep it civil and discuss all things Conor in a mature way.

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Axwell

spix wrote: »

Well you've quoted it so a bit pointless to edit anything. I'm just speaking facts, its painfully obvious if you've been following gsp's interviews the past couple of months, he keeps saying awkward things that make it seem like hes cheating.

It would be worth your while to stop any further talk of fighter accusations to do with steroids, peds etc. There is a charter there for a reason, I suggest you read it.

[Deleted User]

EagererBeaver wrote: »

GSP fight at 162?! What?!

At 170 GSP was carrying some muscle mass which took effort to maintain.

155 is pretty far fetched (although he claimed personally he could do it) but I don't think a catchweight of 162/163 is crazy.

A non-title bout would have a 1lbs allowance which was not the case with the majority of his 170 fights. Therefore he would need to be 6-7lbs lighter than a weight he made many times. That's not crazy.

I'm not suggesting for a second he could make it right now.

ricero

GSP would make absolute bits of mcgregor be it standing or on the deck

Frank Bullitt

Jesus, putting him in with GSP, the size of him on Saturday! And he cut to make that as well.

Madness.

DeadParrot

*ducks in for mcgregor hype....

*backs out

rob316

Mellor wrote: »

I think GSP winning is a real spanner in the McG v GSP fight.

Would Nevada license a 172lb fighter for MW title fight verses a 200+lb GSP. It's not guaranteed imo. What is it worth to them verses a LW defense? Anything?

UFF Perth is booked. It's needs to be PPV.

Where as if he lost. Bisping fights in Perth. GSP fight Conor at 170lbs.

How I see 2018
Conor beats Tony.e
GSP loses Bobby.
Khabib misses weight again.
No LW contender exists. Conor fight GSP at WW. Winner gets a title shot.

Alternate version;
Khabib/Gaethe or whoever emerges as a contender.
Conor fights the above.
GSP reclaims the WW title

Sets up Conor V George at WW for strap 3.

Nevada sanctioned a guy to fight his first pro boxing fight against a guy 49-0 so I think they'd sanction anything.

EagererBeaver

Deleted User wrote: »

Mellor wrote: »

I think GSP winning is a real spanner in the McG v GSP fight.

Would Nevada license a 172lb fighter for MW title fight verses a 200+lb GSP.

I think Nevada sanctions whatever UFC wants, within reason.

Although if there was a GSP v McGregor fight I think it would likely take place at 170 or even 162 catchweight.

Commercially UFC are pretty happy that their two biggest draws have belts. They would like to keep it that way as long as possible. So they would face off at a weight that sees neither guy lose his belt at the end of it. Pure money fight.

Having bulked up for Bisping it would take GSP some months to get into the weight range for a McGregor fight. I don't think it's next fight for either guy. Maybe end of 2018.

GSP fight at 162?! What?!

spix

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No fighter bashing, accusations regarding steroids etc.

Lukker-

yourdeadwright wrote: »

No hope GSP beats Whittaker, he just hits way to hard,
GSP said himself that Bisping stunned hiM a couple of time but GSP hide it, Whittaker hits way harder and is a way better wrestler,
Everyone could see GSP was starting to slow down , I think he'd be far better to move back down to Welter weight,

You could tell GSP was uncomfortable carrying the weight. The fight was going the other way but he managed to clip bisping with a nice shot and found the finish really well.

I reckon if he can get back to 170, he will. No guarantees though, he’s a big boy now

yourdeadwright

No hope GSP beats Whittaker, he just hits way to hard,
GSP said himself that Bisping stunned hiM a couple of time but GSP hide it, Whittaker hits way harder and is a way better wrestler,
Everyone could see GSP was starting to slow down , I think he'd be far better to move back down to Welter weight,

[Deleted User]

Mellor wrote: »

I think GSP winning is a real spanner in the McG v GSP fight.

Would Nevada license a 172lb fighter for MW title fight verses a 200+lb GSP.

I think Nevada sanctions whatever UFC wants, within reason.

Although if there was a GSP v McGregor fight I think it would likely take place at 170 or even 162 catchweight.

Commercially UFC are pretty happy that their two biggest draws have belts. They would like to keep it that way as long as possible. So they would face off at a weight that sees neither guy lose his belt at the end of it. Pure money fight.

Having bulked up for Bisping it would take GSP some months to get into the weight range for a McGregor fight. I don't think it's next fight for either guy. Maybe end of 2018.

XsApollo

Mellor wrote: »

Bobby hits harder than Bisping. Has a better chin. And is better offensive grappler.
I was quite impressed with how well Bisping handled GSP in his guard. Not only did he stop him passing he did damage from the bottom. I'd fancy Bobby to do more

I was well impressed with bisping.
He a tough motherF.
He has been practically ko’d In his last 4? Fights.
Even in this one he was finding his way back and defending well after been flattened.
Until the choke that is.
He was always a brilliant watch.

Mellor

Bobby hits harder than Bisping. Has a better chin. And is better offensive grappler.
I was quite impressed with how well Bisping handled GSP in his guard. Not only did he stop him passing he did damage from the bottom. I'd fancy Bobby to do more

Paully D

Mellor wrote: »

GSP loses Bobby.

I'm probably overreacting to Saturday night as I admittedly thought Bisping would win, but I'd definitely favour GSP over Whittaker now.

Both he and Bisping are similar in size and stature and as a former welterweight, I think Georges will be very confident here and get the job done. I don't think Georges will mess around with any of the bigger middleweights like a Weidman or Rockhold for example.

GSP to beat Whittaker in Perth, vacate the title and move down to welterweight would be my shout.

Mellor

I think GSP winning is a real spanner in the McG v GSP fight.

Would Nevada license a 172lb fighter for MW title fight verses a 200+lb GSP. It's not guaranteed imo. What is it worth to them verses a LW defense? Anything?

UFF Perth is booked. It's needs to be PPV.

Where as if he lost. Bisping fights in Perth. GSP fight Conor at 170lbs.

How I see 2018
Conor beats Tony.e
GSP loses Bobby.
Khabib misses weight again.
No LW contender exists. Conor fight GSP at WW. Winner gets a title shot.

Alternate version;
Khabib/Gaethe or whoever emerges as a contender.
Conor fights the above.
GSP reclaims the WW title

Sets up Conor V George at WW for strap 3.

wonderfullife

Firas Zahabi, May 2017:

"I don't believe Georges is interested in defending titles at this stage of his career. He wants fun fights. Bisping is an opportunity for a 2nd belt and McGregor would be the biggest fight in UFC history. I believe those are the only two fights that make sense".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIXbMWVeQfw

JK, this week:

"I would love a Conor-GSP fight, it would be great. I'm a fan of GSP's but he has a tough task ahead of him this weekend. Overlooking Bisping would be a mistake. I'm very interested to see how it goes".

Freddie Roach, this week:

"McGregor is a coc.ky kid but he did ok against Floyd. I would just say ok no more than that. I would like to see the McGregor fight happen, I would enjoy (camp) for the fight and I believe it's very possible".

Olivier Aubin-Mercier (main training partner for Bisping camp), this week:

"If Georges wins he will fight McGregor next. It's a win-win for the UFC. If Georges beats Conor he's the biggest MMA fighter of all-time. If Conor wins, then he is. If Conor loses, nobody will hold it against him (outside his weight class)"

If all of that wasn't enough proof:

Dana White:

"GSP will fight Whittaker next. Conor will defend against Ferguson".

pastorbarrett

If on-going contract negotiations are to be believed, it's likely McGregor's demands for equity may be holding up the show - no doubt there's back and forth on this, probably around what guise his equity or stake may take.

That said, GSP v McGregor was in the crosshairs for post-Nate 1, though we all know what happened there.

Everybody by now has noted that GSP's star-power is still very much intact. Conor more than anyone has noticed this, especially if the Canadian PPV numbers are to be believed.

It all looks good for him, really:

Fight Tony, win/lose, doesn't matter.

Go fight GSP, win/lose, doesn't matter.

Fight Nate. Trilogy retirement fight. Win/lose, doesn't matter.

When I say 'doesn't matter', obviously it does - ideally he wins - but I mean in the context of him being a draw, of having a natural steady progression in terms of the stature of fight. It's a very conceivable, lucrative path for him.

Also, crazy as it may seem, I see Conor having a Dana role down the line. It could be the price he pays for equity.

Mellor

The Nal wrote: »

Its a year next week since he beat Alvarez and he hasnt even alluded to defending it. Fairly disgraceful that its allowed really.

You haven't been paying attention.
He said, last week, that he feels Tony will be next. Defense. Unification.

hewhoscares

The Nal wrote: »

LastLagoon wrote: »

Nearly time to strip him of the LW title surely

Its a year next week since he beat Alvarez and he hasnt even alluded to defending it. Fairly disgraceful that its allowed really.

When he tweeted the name of the interim champion pretty much straight after Tony won, I'd class that as alluding to who he's fighting next.

[Deleted User]

Also yeah Conor should be stripped.

The Nal

LastLagoon wrote: »

Nearly time to strip him of the LW title surely

Its a year next week since he beat Alvarez and he hasnt even alluded to defending it. Fairly disgraceful that its allowed really.

[Deleted User]

GSP would eat Mcgregor. The strength difference would be way to much, GSP would take him down and finish him fairlys swiftly.

JohnMc1

rob316 wrote: »

MW for mcgregor? That's nonsense WW is his absolute limit. He'd be a natural WW but woodley walks around at 200 then cuts to 170.

GSP and Conor are multiple weight Ufc champions, this is the money fight that WME will make.

Georges can knock off another cocky and obnoxious fighter.

rob316

MW for mcgregor? That's nonsense WW is his absolute limit. He'd be a natural WW but woodley walks around at 200 then cuts to 170.

GSP and Conor are multiple weight Ufc champions, this is the money fight that WME will make.

sonofenoch

Given this has become the Official anti McGregor thread can we not have some balance on who Conor could actually beat in his next fight?

what about Joanna Jedrzejczyk she looks punchy right now .....or do the naysayers have some doubts

LastLagoon

Nearly time to strip him of the LW title surely

JohnMc1

Asus X540L wrote: »

He hasn't defended a title ever I don't think

Nope. He won the Cage Warriors [not Cage Rage] FW title and then fought for the LW title and then left for the UFC. No defenses for either before jumping to the UFC.

[Deleted User]

rob316 wrote: »

I reckon the UFC are going to work towards a GSP vs Mcgregor fight. Gsp will go back to 170 and if he beats Woodley that will set it up. I think it would be a bad fight for mcgregor to take but money will talk.

I agree. Dana immediately comes out saying this card beat Mayweather v McGregor in Canada. Such a random stat to come out with.

I think Conor basically wanted to know how big of a draw GSP is (today) and if he proved to be sufficiently big they'll do a mega-fight in Canada.

LastLagoon

rob316 wrote: »

I reckon the UFC are going to work towards a GSP vs Mcgregor fight. Gsp will go back to 170 and if he beats Woodley that will set it up. I think it would be a bad fight for mcgregor to take but money will talk.

As said on other thread mcgregor might go up to mw so he can write of a loss as just taking a shot.we’re onto his scam now,defend a title against a legit contender you weasel

rob316

I reckon the UFC are going to work towards a GSP vs Mcgregor fight. Gsp will go back to 170 and if he beats Woodley that will set it up. I think it would be a bad fight for mcgregor to take but money will talk.