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STOVES questions and answers here(see mod note in post 1)

paddy147

The amount of threads getting posted each day about stoves is unreal and taking away from other plumbing issues.

Can I suggest to the members and also the mods a dedicated "sticky" thread about stoves and nothing else.

Thanks.:)

Hi Folks. This sticky has been suggested by a regular poster and contributed to quite well. It seems to have generated a lot of interest. While advertising is not permitted under forum charter a balanced view of multiple suppliers is allowed. The rule of thumb is if you are unsure just ask. But keeping it simple and discussing the techanical details of multiple suppliers will be safe. Keep pricing out of the thread and only reply if requested to by PM -Personal message. An instant permant ban will result for breach of charter on advertising.

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BarneyMc

Turner wrote: »

Could anybody point me in the direction of an installation guide for connecting a wood stove >> vitreous enamel pipe >> clay flue adaptor>>clay flue.

I need to know about sealing the clay flue adapter to the clay flue. Its an insert adapter, one you push into the clay flue.

And once everything is sealed there is no need for a registration plate?

What I was going to do was apply fire cement (1200 degrees) to the outside of the clay adapter, push adapter into clay flue. Sealing again with fire cement from the outside.

Reaching through clay adapter and applying fire cement to to any lip or gap between clay adapter clay flue.

Connecting vitreous enamel pipe to clay adapter sealing with fire cement inside and outside. Connecting other end of enamel pipe to the back of stove, enamel pipe has graduated 90 degree elbow. Horizontal pipe into back of stove no more than 6 inches.

Sealing enamel pipe into rear of stove with fire cement at the join?

Anybody advise me on this install..

Is fire cement air tight? I assume it is.

Turner

Yes it creates an air tight seal once done properly.

mobby

Looking to get a small insert 4kw 5kw stove installed into a existing fireplace, and have been to 4 or 5 suppliers, However seem to be getting conflicting advice,2 have told me to get my chimney cleaned and pressure checked and if it passes I wont need a flexi flue pipe, Others have told me its building regulations to install a Flexi Flue piping for a stove install. I am confused and would appreciate some advice.

Mickeroo

mobby wrote: »

Looking to get a small 4kw 5kw stove installed and have been to 4 or 5 suppliers, However seem to be getting conflicting advice,2 have told me to get my chimney cleaned and pressure checked and if it passes I wont need a flexi flue pipe, Others have told me its building regulations to install a Flexi Flue piping for a stove install. I am confused and would appreciate some advice.

As far as I know if your clay liner is found to be in good condition you don't necessarily need the flexi liner. There are arguments for and against whether you should get one though but it's not a violation of building regulations if you don't.

Wearb

You really need to check the manufacturer installation manual. Different outputs will have different size requirements. It’s possiple to have EITHER too big or too small flue/air intake.

mp31

Skippy along wrote: »

Here they are!!!! bloody phone

That looks great and is exactly the same thing we want to get.

Can you please PM me the details of the supplier/fitter.

Also, did the shop say that it was OK to keep the wooden fire surround - will the heat from the stove have any impact on it?

MeAuldSegotia

We are having a Henley stove with a log store fitted. We have a tiled floor and my questions is do we have to have it sit on some sort of stand -marble or slate? Can we just put it on the tiles as they are. Ascetically I would prefer this but if it is going to wreck the floor or cause the tiles to be marked I'd get a stand.
TIA

BarneyMc

MeAuldSegotia wrote: »

We are having a Henley stove with a log store fitted. We have a tiled floor and my questions is do we have to have it sit on some sort of stand -marble or slate? Can we just put it on the tiles as they are. Ascetically I would prefer this but if it is going to wreck the floor or cause the tiles to be marked I'd get a stand.
TIA

I asked my stove fitter the same question and he said there was no need for a plinth. He is a professional fitter. I hope to get it fitted this weekend. If anyone knows otherwise then please shout!

bigronnie9

Hi Lads,

Couple of newbie questions I'd appreciate some help with.

Recently got a stove installed (Heritage Dromore 5kw), the original fireplace had been plastered shut so they cracked it open and were able to set it back into the hearth like we wanted as its a small enough room

Currently it just has the original brickwork in the fireplace, but we are thinking of changing it. Apparently the options are:

Plaster it and paint it (i assume some kind of heat proof stuff)
Tile inside the fireplace

So just wondering is there any difference besides aesthetics between the two approaches? And is it normal (stove installer said it was) to get these done after the stove has been installed? I'd say it could be awkward working around it for both?

And last question...have lit the stove the last two nights now, using just wood and not going too mad as our meant to break it in apparently.... how do I know once its broken in enough???

I can post a pic if that would help, not sure if this is standard?

Thanks!

bigronnie9

Wheety wrote: »

Keep the glass clean. Looks great when you get a big fire going.

Any tips for keeping the glass clean on a stove? Just a case of wiping it down every now and again?

evolving_doors

bigronnie9 wrote: »

Any tips for keeping the glass clean on a stove? Just a case of wiping it down every now and again?

Cheap aldi Baby wipes at as good as any.
Minor adjustments with airwash system to find the sweet spot.

Uriel.

bigronnie9 wrote: »

Any tips for keeping the glass clean on a stove? Just a case of wiping it down every now and again?

Damp newspaper dipped in ashes works absolutely great. It's free and contains no artificial chemicals etc

ronn

I'm installing a Stanley stove and I want to install a stone effect clad/tile behind the stove with a stone effect tile, what adhesive should I use to fix the stone with,

leck

Skippy along wrote: »

Finally got my Henley arklow 7kw fitted delighted with it, here's the before and after pics Tidy job ... Fitter arrived at 9 gone at 1

How are you doing with the Henley Arklow? Thanks for sharing the before and after pics.

Could you tell me the total cost you paid? I'm looking at getting a Henley Arklow 5kW.

LirW

Can anyone give me an idea how much the fitting of a 5kw inset stove would cost?

Skippy along

leck wrote: »

How are you doing with the Henley Arklow? Thanks for sharing the before and after pics.

Could you tell me the total cost you paid? I'm looking at getting a Henley Arklow 5kW.

Hi it was 1,290 for the stove and bits that I needed see attached below,the labour was 320 euro so 1610euro all in, fitter arrived at 9am done and dusted by 1pm very happy with the work done
If your able try and get the 7kw it's not that much bigger, i have specs if you need, anything else fire away.

leck

Skippy along wrote: »

Hi it was 1,290 for the stove and bits that I needed see attached below,the labour was 320 euro so 1610euro all in, fitter arrived at 9am done and dusted by 1pm very happy with the work done
If your able try and get the 7kw it's not that much bigger, i have specs if you need, anything else fire away.

I think 7kW might be too much for the room, but might look at the specs to see if it would fit.

...just looked and see the difference is in the depth of the 5kW vs 7kW. The 7kW wouldn't fit.

Skippy along

leck wrote: »

I think 7kW might be too much for the room, but might look at the specs to see if it would fit.

...just looked and see the difference is in the depth of the 5kW vs 7kW. The 7kW wouldn't fit.

Big difference in heat if you can

Tombo2001

Skippy along wrote: »

Big difference in heat if you can

For the same amount of fuel - does a 7kw give off more heat than a 5kw.....?

mp31

Tombo2001 wrote: »

For the same amount of fuel - does a 7kw give off more heat than a 5kw.....?

I would say no. If both stoves are set to the same airflow then both will give off the same amount of heat for the same amount of fuel (assuming both have warmed up equally)

I reckon the 7kw stove can take more fuel and hence generates more heat however I'm sure someone who understands the physics of these things will be able to give an accurate answer.

soap1978

can anyone tell the best 8kw mutli stove to buy please

Juwwi

Hi I got a quote from a installer to take out old fire place ,remove hearth and back boiler and make the opening bigger,install a new support beam.

Clean the chimney and line chimney with flue.

Tile the chamber with stone and fit a new hearth .

Also fit a oak wooden mantle

I'd get the breast plastered and I'd get a plumber to disconnect back boiler .

Quote was 1750 with me supplying the stove .

Does this seem reasonable or a bit on the dear side ?

savemejebus

Anyone know how hamco stoves compare to heritage stoves quality wise? Am looking at Hamco Allen vs Heritage skellig specifically. Cheers

leck

Had a Henley Arklow 5kW installed yesterday. Delighted with the result.

Before and after pics attached. There had been an open fire in the fireplace originally, then an oil burner was fitted about 12 years ago, followed by an electric fire most recently.

The stove was fitted into the existing opening although the granite slab at the back was removed. This allowed more room for insulation too. The brass fender has to go as it doesn't allow the door of the stove to open.

Gastric Apple

Hello,

Got a stove fitted a few weeks back and it's been going great. However, just this evening I've noticed a crack in the board above the stove. There's a hole cut out that the flue goes up, but there's now a crack from this hole to the edge of the board. I think it's called the skamolex board?

Is this something I should be worried about / need to get fixed? You can't see it unless you're looking up from the stove.

Any help appreciated. Thanks!

GY A1

looks well
how much was that stove
and wouild you know what flue size

leck wrote: »

Had a Henley Arklow 5kW installed yesterday. Delighted with the result.

Before and after pics attached. There had been an open fire in the fireplace originally, then an oil burner was fitted about 12 years ago, followed by an electric fire most recently.

The stove was fitted into the existing opening although the granite slab at the back was removed. This allowed more room for insulation too. The brass fender has to go as it doesn't allow the door of the stove to open.

leck

GY A1 wrote: »

looks well
how much was that stove
and would you know what flue size

That stove retails between €500 and €999 depending on where you go, so do shop around. I found it hard to compare prices online as that stove seems to be newer version of Henley Achill.

Sorry, I don't know about flue size. The installer pulled out the old flexiflue liner that was for the oil stove and replace with new and then added vermiculite between that and clay pots.

I was warned to only have three small fires before going full tilt. Last night the fire was an enormous blaze and all I had in there was a firelighter to start, one Aldi firelog, 4-5 bits of kindling and one briquette. Even after closing the air down, it was really blazing, so wondering if there's too much air getting in.

jaffa20

leck wrote: »

That stove retails between €500 and €999 depending on where you go, so do shop around. I found it hard to compare prices online as that stove seems to be newer version of Henley Achill.

Sorry, I don't know about flue size. The installer pulled out the old flexiflue liner that was for the oil stove and replace with new and then added vermiculite between that and clay pots.

I was warned to only have three small fires before going full tilt. Last night the fire was an enormous blaze and all I had in there was a firelighter to start, one Aldi firelog, 4-5 bits of kindling and one briquette. Even after closing the air down, it was really blazing, so wondering if there's too much air getting in.

Be careful with firelogs. I thought they couldn't be used i stoves.

darrenp363

Hi guys, hoping someone can help me here, moved in to a new house a few months ago that has a stanley ashling stove along with oil central heating, lit the stove for the first time tonight but no heat in the radiators, the water in the cylinder was heating but not the rads, thermostat is set at 40, is it just a case that the circulation pump is not kicking in? the house had been idle for a few years before we moved in.

ronn

When I light my stove, there’s a lot of smoke coming out the door, until the fire takes hold, would it be I’m not using enough firefighters, the kindling is bone dry,
Any suggestions,??