Are Am Eye wrote: » Do you have a sequence of events as they played out at the shooting? Who was where? Who shot who? Who was in on the conspiracy and what was the motivation or objective of the conspiracy?
Cheerful Spring wrote: » All i know is this. All four police officers who found the rifle swore they found a Mauser 7.65. Least two of them we now know and most importantly Capt Fritz a commanding officer said he knew the rifle was a Mauser. How? No, sir; I knew--you can read on the rifle what it was and you could also see on the cartridge what caliber it was. So his clearly stating a cover up! Official record only 1 rifle was found and it belonged to Lee Harvey Oswald.
Are Am Eye wrote: » Cheerful Spring who are you saying was in the DBD at the time of the shooting. Was it Oswald or someone else who fired this mauser. Or were they both there. Was Oswald part of the conspiracy group? Was there also someone on the grassy knoll? Do you maintain shot 2 came from the front?
ohnonotgmail wrote: » are you this poor on facts in real life? If it said 7.65 Mauser then it wasn't a german mauser. It was argentinian. Craig was a layman. He had no particular expertise in identifying firearms.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » We have photographs of a rifle found at the Texas School book Depository. The police officers at the scene identified as 7.65 calibre Mauser rifle. Here is a Photograph ( below) of both guns Carcano and Mauser. Mauser and Carcano resemble each other. The build quality is not as good with the Carcano. Of course it possible Roger Craig a decorated Deputy Sheriff was mistaken? I don't believe that though. Capt Fritz his commanding officer backed up his story at the Warren Commission. The Warren Commission was never about finding out the truth, the main purpose was set to blame Lee Oswald for the shooting of Kennedy no matter what the evidence showed. Capt Fritz:Crucial part you see he clearly says Mauser was written on the rifle they found at the scene. So how can two officers be wrong? Mr. FRITZ. I don't know, I am not sure, I don't think so. Mr. BALL. Was there any conversation you heard that this rifle was a Mauser? Mr. FRITZ. I heard all kinds of reports about that rifle. They called it most everything. Mr. BALL. Did you hear any conversation right there that day? Mr. FRITZ. Right at that time? Mr. BALL. Yes Mr. FRITZ. I just wouldn't be sure because there were so many people talking at the same time, I might have; I am not sure whether I did or not. ]Mr. BALL. Did you think it was a Mauser? Mr. FRITZ. No, sir; I knew--you can read on the rifle what it was and you could also see on the cartridge what caliber it was. Mr. BALL. Well, did you ever make any---did you ever say that it was a 7.65 Mauser? Mr. FRITZ. No, sir; I am sure I did not. Mr. BALL. Or did you think it was such a thing? Mr. FRITZ. No, sir; I did not. If I did, the Mauser part, I won't be too positive about Mauser because I am not too sure about Mauser rifles myself. But I am certainly sure that I never did give anyone any different caliber than the one that shows on the cartridges.
The Nal wrote: » We do, but the video shows them holding up the Carcano. The initial police reports and news reports are clearly wrong. Yep. CS has ignored that photo though in favour of a drawing because he wants to believe in a conspiracy. A pig headed failure to look at undeniable facts in the face.
The Nal wrote: » I have indeed. Craig is torn apart in it over a couple of pages. Reading Bugliosi's Outrage at the moment. About the OJ case. Really enjoying it.
Tipsy McSwagger wrote: » Have you read Bugliosi’s Reclaiming History?
Cheerful Spring wrote: » False, why are you continuing with this. We have the news reports a German Mauser was found.
Charmeleon wrote: » From what I remember the confusion of the back entry wound is partly due to the location of the hole in JFKs jacket, which had bunched up behind him as he sat in the car. This made the wound entry look like it had to be lower than it actually was when the jacket was laid out flat. The photo posted previously shows it was definitely at the base of his neck and not lower on the back.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Are you this annoying in real life?. What difference does it make if it had German Mauser or Mauser on the rifle. Roger Craig was just saying it was a German Mauser rifle he saw. This is accurate as Mauser is stamped near the barrel.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » It be only confusing to the layman if 7.65 Mauser was not a unique weapon.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Are you this annoying in real life?. What difference does it make if it had German Mauser or Mauser on the rifle. Roger Craig was just saying it was a German Mauser rifle he saw. This is accurate as Mauser is stamped near the barrel. It be only confusing to the layman if 7.65 Mauser was not a unique weapon.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » but it doesnt say "german mauser" as you insisted.
The Nal wrote: » Craig, as the only person who says he saw that, years after I might add, is not reliable. He changed his story later to say that they found the Mauser on the roof. Theres news footage of them holding the Carcano up in the TSBD. Although I'm sure you'll claim this was "re-shot" with the Carcano. How many people do you actually think are in on this conspiracy? Oswald, all the Dallas cops, Marina, Ruth Paine, Ruby, President Ford, all of the Warren Commission, most eye witnesses to the assassination and the Tippet killing, the mob....... Sounds to me like you've just read Rush to Judgement and flicked through Crossfire and taken it as gospel. Ill say it again - you haven't produced one piece of credible evidence in all of your posts. P.S Your're still ignoring the photo of Kennedys back wound in favour of a drawing which isn't accurate and isn't to scale.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Go to specsavers then it says Mauser.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » you said he saw "german mauser" stamped on the barrel. that link doesnt show "german mauser" stamped on the barrel.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » False. 7.65 Mauser the gun Craig said he saw. A firearms forum even has photographs showing identifying markers along the barrel.https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/7-65-mauser-marking.170943/
ohnonotgmail wrote: » no mauser type rifles have german mauser stamped on the barrel. so craig is lying.
Cheerful Spring wrote: » It easy to mistake the make of the gun, and yes i would believe it he just mixed his guns. Only Roger Craig said the along the barrel of the gun, it had a stamp a identifier marked German Mauser. If this is true they found a German Mauser. So someone is lying and covering up!
The Nal wrote: » No it has not. Read thishttp://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/ford.htm
ohnonotgmail wrote: » well he must have been some expert then to identify it on sight as a german mauser. what exactly are his qualifications for this?
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Well you have not researched enough. It established beyond all doubt the Warren Commission changed the position of the original back would. We have artist drawings of the autopsy, that show the difference. The government withheld x rays so we never find out the real truth how many wounds Kennedy had.
The Nal wrote: » I've been studying the assassination for 20 years. Forget about the Warren Commission. Forget about Mark Lane. Although do read about how his nutty conspiracy theories helped cause the Jonestown massacre. Do your own research. Theres pictures and videos you can look at. Such as the picture I posted that you keep ignoring because it doesn't suit you're agenda. .
Cheerful Spring wrote: » Did you even watch the videos you post? Seymour Weitzman says on video he identified it as a German Mauser. He was asked then when you last see the rifle . Well it was taken from the Lab and i was told it was a Carcano Italian made rifle, so i must have made a mistake identifying it?. So no Seymour statement actually backs up Roger Craig story of finding a German Mauser rifle. Roger Craig said the rifle he saw had a identifying stamp along the barrel of the gun marked German Mauser! Are Italian Carcano rifles stamped with German Mauser Identifying/stamp markers?
