hatrickpatrick wrote: » Predictably, this entirely innocuous statement has led to everything from news articles describing it as "racist" to actual police investigations. Mission roundly accomplished.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » If anyone wanted to know why the alt-right might find it easy to recruit young people, this is your answer. Identity politics and the enforcement of a sort of "if you're white, you must feel ashamed about it" ideology particularly in college spaces have gone off the deep end, and based on what I've heard from friends who are in college in the states, it's become an absolutely toxic environment in many cases.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » I've said it before and I'll keep saying it - from a committed leftist, I'd personally like to thank these extremist identity politics muppets calling themselves leftists for making it ridiculously easy for the alt-right to sway young people who have developed a legitimate resentment against being attacked for their demographic identity. In Ireland, it's more centred around man-shaming from the likes of Una Mullally and Louise O'Neill, but it would seem that among young liberals in the states, "white guilt" is the mainstay of identity politics and is causing many people who would probably otherwise sympathise with the left in terms of economic policy and permissive societal liberalism to align themselves with the alt-right.
hatrickpatrick wrote: » Thanks a whole bunch, ye muppets.
WinnyThePoo wrote: » Well i say Bravo to people who will stand against rascism.
Sweetemotion wrote: » Is that not what the alt right are doing?
WinnyThePoo wrote: » Really? Your really asking that question?
demfad wrote: » Antifa are not who you believe them to be:https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/fake-antifa-twitter-accounts?utm_term=.tbjRwM5R4#.obE3e9a3X The majority of protestors don't identify as antifa. It is rightwingers who call them this to exagerate the political violence: Here is more:https://twitter.com/conspirator0/status/913588459847208961 Remember political violence does not just mean physical violence: it can mean using political power to hurt people. Almost all the political violence is being carried out by the US State now, with help from minions in the far-right.
Obvious Otter wrote: » Do you have a better source?
Noel82 wrote: » The FBI and DHS have classified them a domestic terrorist group since 2016.https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235 "Federal authorities have been warning state and local officials since early 2016 that leftist extremists known as “antifa” had become increasingly confrontational and dangerous, so much so that the Department of Homeland Security formally classified their activities as “domestic terrorist violence,” according to interviews and confidential law enforcement documents obtained by POLITICO." "Previously unreported documents disclose that by April 2016, authorities believed that “anarchist extremists” were the primary instigators of violence at public rallies against a range of targets. They were blamed by authorities for attacks on the police, government and political institutions, along with symbols of “the capitalist system,” racism, social injustice and fascism, according to a confidential 2016 joint intelligence assessment by DHS and the FBI."
Half of what people think about antifa comes from alt right trolls pretending to be them.
Noel82 wrote: » Got any proof of that? Antifa and these black bloc groups are all the same to me, the fact you're making excuses for them is pretty disturbing. You're going against what the DHS/FBI viewpoint is too. What would you say if I made excuses for a White supremacist group?
20Cent wrote: » Yes. There wasn't a civil war today.
Noel82 wrote: » I don't know what you're talking about.
20Cent wrote: » Maybe this isn't the thread for you then. It's been the biggest antifa story in a long time.
A document calling them domestic terrorists is a very different thing to them being classified domestic terrorists.
Brian? wrote: » You think he alt-right are standing against racism? Do tell.
WinnyThePoo wrote: » I dont think the poster has it in him/her to answer. Just like when they bring up antifa. They don't want to talk about about the alt right on an alt right thread. Theie ashamed of themselves.
Sweetemotion wrote: » I'm not ashamed of myself thank you very much. Hating white is the big thing in America now. Why should white people be made feel guilty for what they where born?
WinnyThePoo wrote: » I'll refer to brians question. Which you've ignored. You think the alt right are against racism? Do tell.
Sweetemotion wrote: » By fighting against the racism of the white race. Racism is rascim doesn't matter what colour you are.
PopePalpatine wrote: » Screw it, I'll bite - there's a reason why firefighters don't use flamethrowers, or why bomb squads don't use bombs.
Sweetemotion wrote: » By fighting against the racism of the white race.
oscarBravo wrote: » You're not expressing yourself very clearly, but I'll infer from context that you're complaining about racism towards white people. That's not what the alt-right is about. I don't think anyone who's capable of tying their shoes without pictorial instructions genuinely believes that that's what it's about, which leaves me wondering why anyone would go to the effort of pretending that that's what it's about. This idea of the white man as the greatest victim of oppression in history isn't just absurd, it's pathetic.
PopePalpatine wrote: » I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're here to discuss the thread subject in good faith. The point I was trying to make is that you don't fight racism with more racism, which you'd expect from a movement which is barely more than tech-savvy Nazism.
pitifulgod wrote: » Given what you have previously said in relation to a terror attack that involved a white nationalist in Charlottesville, I'm inclined to not take you very seriously. White people are not subject to racism on a daily basis because they are white... This is a fact. Pretty simple really.
