A Little Pony wrote: » What you are saying is if someone wears an Israeli pin or a Star of David and you find it offensive it means they are forcing it upon you. That is the core of the argument you are making which is as I said is preposterous.
FrancieBrady wrote: » A Little Pony wrote: » What you are saying is if someone wears an Israeli pin or a Star of David and you find it offensive it means they are forcing it upon you. That is the core of the argument you are making which is as I said is preposterous. If I tell them I find it offensive and they continue to wear it, they are forcing it on me. It doesn't matter how much you try to re-write what I said, how many questions you refuse to go near, it isn't going to change the point ALP.
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A Little Pony wrote: » Which makes no logical sense. If someone walks into a shop you are in wearing a football top of a team you hate and you tell them that is offensive and they keep it on, the conclusion of your own argument is it is being forced upon you. It makes absolutely no sense unless you agree with an authoritarian state and think free thought and freedom of expression should be banned.
FrancieBrady wrote: » A Little Pony wrote: » Which makes no logical sense. If someone walks into a shop you are in wearing a football top of a team you hate and you tell them that is offensive and they keep it on, the conclusion of your own argument is it is being forced upon you. It makes absolutely no sense unless you agree with an authoritarian state and think free thought and freedom of expression should be banned. What would a newsreader who wears a swastika be told? What would they be doing if they continued to wear after being told people found it offensive? It is a very simple concept.
A Little Pony wrote: » Answer the question, if the star of David offended you and you asked it to be removed and it wasn't would that mean it is being forced upon you. You keep coming out with false equivalencies.
FrancieBrady wrote: » A Little Pony wrote: » Answer the question, if the star of David offended you and you asked it to be removed and it wasn't would that mean it is being forced upon you. You keep coming out with false equivalencies. what is false equivalency about referring to another lapel symbol that people find offensive?Yes the person wearing anything I told them I found offensive would be forcing me to look at it. Could you answer the questions about a newsreader wearing a swastika now? What would happen if a BBC reader wore one and after being requested to remove it, what would they 'be doing' if they insisted on wearing it? What would the BBC be forcing people viewing to do if they allowed it to be worn?
A Little Pony wrote: » Very funny. Not only do you take offense but the person can also control your mind and make you look at him/her. The basics of the argument is from you that if it is offensive (to you) they are forcing it upon you. Something which holds no intellectual merit.
FrancieBrady wrote: » A Little Pony wrote: » Very funny. Not only do you take offense but the person can also control your mind and make you look at him/her. The basics of the argument is from you that if it is offensive (to you) they are forcing it upon you. Something which holds no intellectual merit. Yet you won't answer the question because you know what the answer will confirm.
A Little Pony wrote: » I did answer it, people wearing symbols doesn't effect me and it's certainly not being forced upon me. I have a mind of my own and I watch what I want to watch. If I disagree with something and can avoid listening to them, that is what I do. I'm not one for these protests who whine about something being 'offensive' when I have the choice to take offense and don't have to take any notice of it.
What would happen if a BBC reader wore one and after being requested to remove it, what would they 'be doing' if they insisted on wearing it? What would the BBC be forcing people viewing to do if they allowed it to be worn?
FrancieBrady wrote: » A Little Pony wrote: » I did answer it, people wearing symbols doesn't effect me and it's certainly not being forced upon me. I have a mind of my own and I watch what I want to watch. If I disagree with something and can avoid listening to them, that is what I do. I'm not one for these protests who whine about something being 'offensive' when I have the choice to take offense and don't have to take any notice of it. I didn't ask about 'your' reaction, which in this instance is self serving for the purposes of ranting about my opinion.. Here are the questions again. Try again. What would happen if a BBC reader wore one and after being requested to remove it, what would they 'be doing' if they insisted on wearing it? What would the BBC be forcing people viewing to do if they allowed it to be worn?
A Little Pony wrote: » They wouldn't be forcing the viewers to do anything, those viewers are human beings, they have brains and can decide to watch or not. I detest the BBC personally, if you don't like a certain presenter on a radio show or a TV show, don't watch it. If the person wants to be a dickhead, crack on.
FrancieBrady wrote: » A Little Pony wrote: » They wouldn't be forcing the viewers to do anything, those viewers are human beings, they have brains and can decide to watch or not. I detest the BBC personally, if you don't like a certain presenter on a radio show or a TV show, don't watch it. If the person wants to be a dickhead, crack on. Why are you refusing to answer the question? Here it is again. What would happen if a BBC reader wore one and after being requested to remove it, what would they 'be doing' if they insisted on wearing it? What would the BBC be forcing people viewing to do if they allowed it to be worn?
A Little Pony wrote: » I did just answer it, look above you.
FrancieBrady wrote: » A Little Pony wrote: » I did just answer it, look above you. No you didn't, you prescribed a solution for the viewer. You didn't say what would happen if somebody wore one. Nor did you say what the BBC would be doing by allowing it to be worn after objections.
A Little Pony wrote: » The BBC wouldn't be doing anything, viewers won't watch, simple as that. It's not difficult to figure out what viewers would do if a Nazi sign was on a main news channel.
FrancieBrady wrote: » What would a newsreader who wears a swastika be told? What would they be doing if they continued to wear after being told people found it offensive? It is a very simple concept.
shaunr68 wrote: » Where is poll option three, that this thread is one great big
tomwaterford wrote: » Leave donald trump outta this :pac:
markodaly wrote: » I am still puzzled to why FrancieBrady thinks that seeing a Poppy on a street is somehow forcing it on him.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Why are you still puzzled by something I didn't say? It must be misquote Francie day around here.
markodaly wrote: » Isnt that what you said? Or sorry, first you would politely ask them to remove it, then if they refused you would say that its being forced on you. Still utterly crazy but there you have it.
FrancieBrady wrote: » You do some ducking to avoid accepting something obvious. I'll give you that. I'll let the thread readers make their own assessment.
Omackeral wrote: » you're very precious if you think someone wearing what they want to wear is forcing anything on you. You can take offence all you want, but that's very much on you.
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