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lou91

Never posted on this forum before, but it seems a bit strange that there's no off-topic/general conversation thread, especially if meet ups take place. It could be a good addition, considering how a lot of the topics here are a bit heavy...

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Ten of Swords

This news story made for some very uncomfortable reading today, I actually found it quite disturbing. Two 17 year old lads secretly fool around a few times, word gets out so one lures the other to a meeting and stabs him six times with a kitchen knife. The victim survived the attack two years ago and the sentencing hearing was last week.

Two years, suspended.

https://waterford-news.ie/2019/03/20/scorned-lover-victim-of-frenzied-stabbing/

JackTaylorFan

My favourite one was the very furry friendly drama troupe version

wakka12

Ten of Swords wrote: »

The governor of Ulyanovsk has now said he doesn't want the cadets expelled (but his language actually made me feel sorry for them if you read between the lines). Regardless of his opinion though it is still up to the academy to decide and they will all have to face the disciplinary board.

http://tass.com/society/985717

Translation - The senior students and alumni are going to kick the ѕhit out of you

That petition to save the cadets went from 4,000 sigs to 40,000 and there are tribute videos popping up everywhere. Some of them are really good actually! The one the Ukrainian swim team put up is brilliant, go to 0.55 - creative!!!

Haha that ending was gas! I like all these response videos..I guess its horrible stereotyping on my part( which is ever worse seeing as I know plenty of russian people who good humoured just like any of us) but all those response videos made me a lot warmer to russia since I heard about them

Ten of Swords

The governor of Ulyanovsk has now said he doesn't want the cadets expelled (but his language actually made me feel sorry for them if you read between the lines). Regardless of his opinion though it is still up to the academy to decide and they will all have to face the disciplinary board.

http://tass.com/society/985717

I believe that the institute’s veterans and teachers will manage to present quite a few arguments to explain to the cadets what respect for the uniform and traditions means

Translation - The senior students and alumni are going to kick the ѕhit out of you

That petition to save the cadets went from 4,000 sigs to 40,000 and there are tribute videos popping up everywhere. Some of them are really good actually! The one the Ukrainian swim team put up is brilliant, go to 0.55 - creative!!!

Chorcai

Ash885 wrote: »

Those videos have played havoc with my recommended to watch on YouTube this whole week >_< Hilarious vids though, sad turn of events for the Russian one though.

Seems to have gathered momentum in Russia

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/how-russias-hilarious-homoerotic-satisfaction-became-a-nationwide-meme-of-solidarity

Ash885

Those videos have played havoc with my recommended to watch on YouTube this whole week >_< Hilarious vids though, sad turn of events for the Russian one though.

Ten of Swords

wakka12 wrote: »

Haha that looks like it'd be fun to be in!
Im shocked a bunch of russian lads decided to make that video? I would have thought surely you wouldn't be able to gather such a random assortment of young russian men who'd all willingly decide to make a homo erotic video and post it , especially given the anti lgbt climate there

Anyway what are they in trouble for?IS it actual legal trouble, the anti lgbt propaganda law?

I don't think it was ever meant to be released, it was shared on VK (Russian Facebook) and obviously got out of hand but it was just meant to be a dorm prank. It's escalated very quickly anyway, not so many news outlets in Europe reporting on it but it's huge in Russia and causing a lot of red faces. The college is the most prestigious flight school in Russia and word is that the 14 cadets who participated in it will be expelled sadly. Russian press is reporting that they are all first year cadets except the guy at the end of the video wearing trousers, he is a senior cadet and most likely the dorm prefect.

The Ulyanovsk Oblast (province) governor has ordered an investigation into the students in the video and their teachers too so they are out for blood. Russian newspapers say that most people polled on the issue believe it was just harmless fun, their reasoning is that there is no swearing or alcohol in the video which would have made it much more of a taboo. A petition with 4,000 signatures asking to keep the cadets in the school has been handed in, doubt it will save them though

As for why, it's a Russian spin on a video made about 3 years ago by British army recruits. I couldn't work out why Russian students would use an english language song until I saw the British video. Needless to say the British recruits don't have a patch on the Russians (in looks or moves haha!)

Looks like Russia's next Eurovision entry is sorted!!!

wakka12

cgcsb wrote: »

????
There are 195 countries in the world. 73 of them criminalise homosexuality, 7 of which carry the death penalty. That's 37% of the countries of the world. Russia is far from a rosey place for gay people but it's nowhere near the bottom of the pile.

Yes a lot of countries are extremely ****ty places for lgbt people to live in and russia may not be the worst at all but its still a horrible place to live if you're gay

wakka12

Ten of Swords wrote: »

A video has surfaced on Youtube today of Russian Air Cadets at the Ulyanovsk Institute of Civil Aviation stripping down to their underwear and producing a very provocative video to the tune of Benny Benassi - Satisfaction

Anyway long story short there all in craploads of trouble now etc etc

The vid is fricking hilarious!

***NSFW*** (Mods, be cool)

Haha that looks like it'd be fun to be in!
Im shocked a bunch of russian lads decided to make that video? I would have thought surely you wouldn't be able to gather such a random assortment of young russian men who'd all willingly decide to make a homo erotic video and post it , especially given the anti lgbt climate there

Anyway what are they in trouble for?IS it actual legal trouble, the anti lgbt propaganda law?

cgcsb

JupiterKid wrote: »

Very brave thing for them to do in Russia, one of the most homophobic countries in the world at the moment.

????
There are 195 countries in the world. 73 of them criminalise homosexuality, 7 of which carry the death penalty. That's 37% of the countries of the world. Russia is far from a rosey place for gay people but it's nowhere near the bottom of the pile.

JupiterKid

Very brave thing for them to do in Russia, one of the most homophobic countries in the world at the moment.

lottpaul

That really is hilarious

Good luck to them -- hope they don't get thrown out for it all - but if they do some of them definitely have prospects for a career in entertainment

JackTaylorFan

Brave lads

Ten of Swords

A video has surfaced on Youtube today of Russian Air Cadets at the Ulyanovsk Institute of Civil Aviation stripping down to their underwear and producing a very provocative video to the tune of Benny Benassi - Satisfaction

Anyway long story short there all in craploads of trouble now etc etc

The vid is fricking hilarious!

***NSFW*** (Mods, be cool)

robyntmorton

<rant>
Is there any service in the HSE where a psychiatrist sending a letter saying effectively "we'll get to you eventually" is acceptable? That's the letter I got today.

We can't give you an appointment. You're (big number) on a waiting list. We'll be in touch.

If it was for any other aspect of mental health it would be grand, but in healthcare for transgender patients it is apparently par for the course.

I've already had one consultant give a diagnosis of gender dysphoria. Do I now have to wait an unspecified time for another to say "yeah, I agree" before anything else happens? When that happens do I go to the back of the next doctor's waiting list, and get to wait another long time to be seen? Or is there joined up thinking that I can be seen by the endocrinologist at the same time?

Is it any wonder that trans* patients have such issues with mental health and suicide, that it takes years to start treating them for their diagnosed condition? A condition that with adequate sympathetic treatment can massively improve their physical and mental health?

I'm not blaming the doctors involved though. They are working within a system. That system is fu**ed up though.
</rant>
And breathe...

Ten of Swords

JackTaylorFan I hope you're managing OK, that was an appalling thing to happen to you on that bus.

I'm not looking to reignite the discussion on that thread as it was closed by the mods.

Just wanted to wish you well.

L1011

Her appointment was of questionable democracy, but she's certainly forcing LGBT rights and discrimination to be a more important topic over there

Serbia actually has decent enough LGBT rights on paper - how easy it is for those living there to use them is another question; and being open wasn't really an option for most.

Ten of Swords

I honestly did not expect to see this but I'm very impressed.

The Prime Minister of Serbia marched in the Belgrade Pride parade today. It's really encouraging to see this. Ana Brnabic is openly gay and she faced opposition from the more conservative politicians when she was elected. Serbia had a pretty poor reputation for LGBT rights in the past, I really hope this is a turning point.

Well done to Ana!

And her bodyguard wearing the cap, OMFG!!

gizmo81

I just noticed Netflix Gay and Lesbian section is now titled LGBTQ.

baby and crumble

Dunno if this is of interest but there's a new video series starting tomorrow on the topic of Queer Body Love- I think it's something that a lot of gay folks struggle with but often the resources that are out there are focused on really hetero-normative ideals- a la if you're a lady you'll want to try lacy lingerie to feel sexy, etc.

I have NO IDEA if it'll be any good but I signed up purely because Sinclair Sexsmith is involved and I love a lot of their stuff (some of it is a bit outside my comfort zone but hey!)

The details are here anyway.

Gremlinertia

Haven't posted here in a long time, thought i might give it a go again.

On a related note, i will totally buy a penneys t-shirt if it says purple monkey dishwasher

robyntmorton

In all fairness, the Penneys creative process, and you can try this yourself, is:

Pick
Three
Words

Add glitter

Print it.

For example: Unicorn Flapjack Snapchat

gizmo81

baby and crumble wrote: »

I have to admit I felt the same.

My high femme girlfriend got quite annoyed.

Glad someone else saw it too.

It feels like it's exploiting identity. But a feckin Kardashian could of said it or something that it ended up on a Penny's bag.

baby and crumble

I have to admit I felt the same.

My high femme girlfriend got quite annoyed.

gizmo81

Today in Penny's I notice little rucksacks with FEMME written on them.

I did a little double take and thought FEMME is a word I'd regard as part of LGBTQ+ language. Femme to me was always associated on the binary with butch in lesbian culture and more recently in regards to men (albeit in the negative) with No fats, no femmes, etc.

I'm not screaming 'cultural appropriation' it just made me double take.

robyntmorton

Had a mental health assessment today, as part of working to a diagnosis of gender dysphoria, allowing me to proceed to aligning my physical self with my mental self.

Went well I think. Still don't know if I need to be referred to someone else, or if it can be handled by the current service, but, and this is good news...

I wasn't deemed to have a mental problem.
I wasn't deemed to be a danger to myself or others.
I wasn't sectioned.
I was treated as a relatively normal person, with relatively normal things I need to get through.

One more step done anyway.

AllForIt

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I'd say it wont be a one off. Pride has never really been a one off. An organisational committee would I dont think decide to have a one off pride but their 1st

Yeah you could be right. I just read that it was organized by OUTWEST who thought they would do something special in recognition of the anniversary of 20 years of their existence. I can't see it being a regular event myself but ya I could be wrong.

Annasopra

AllForIt wrote: »

There is going to be a gay pride march in Castlebar Mayo this weekend. A small affair of course but I never though I'd see the day. Probably a one off but nonetheless.

I'd say it wont be a one off. Pride has never really been a one off. An organisational committee would I dont think decide to have a one off pride but their 1st

AllForIt

There is going to be a gay pride march in Castlebar Mayo this weekend. A small affair of course but I never though I'd see the day. Probably a one off but nonetheless.

JackTaylorFan

robyntmorton wrote: »

Post Junior Cert, pre Leaving Cert. Not old enough to be an adult, but old enough to at least have some understanding (or so I would have thought)

Nope. I have a nephew and niece, similar age - they don't get it, despite the education on LGBT in most schools - they don't really go into the nuance of what might actually cause offence. Admittedly, their parent's attitudes don't help.

As I'm sure you know, teenagers lack empathy to begin with, so totally overlooking the fact lyrics might actually cause offence to trans people is not a surprise to me, in the least.

The most empathetic teenager I have ever met was gay and he just got it. Straight kids rarely do. Maybe when they are a little older. Who knows.