NIMAN wrote: » sorry to hear this, but its a great example. Why on Earth would the authorities want to resus such a person? for what purpose? We are all going to die, would there have been any point resus'ing your Dad to have him live another few hours or days in that state, especially when he was so close to the end anyway?
CaSCaDe711 wrote: » It will never be legal in Ireland. Why? Because we continue to be backward regarding all things judicial. Our system is an absolute joke, an embarrassing joke, and has been for a very long time. Year after year we appear to be totally useless when it comes to thinking sensibly regarding victims of crime, penalties the perpetrators receive etc. Regarding someone calling it a day legally on their own terms? No matter how much pain the individual may be in physically/mentally etc, it will always be forbidden in Ireland. Thanks to the church, and the older generation that will live in the past until they "call it a day"
NIMAN wrote: » corner of hells wrote: » I think at the moment we have an informal "do not resuscitate " at the moment. I remember with my own father in his final years he was effectively a vegetable with dementia we made an agreement with the nursing home manager and his GP that he was not to be resuscitated. Everyone had to be in agreement. I do also remember another resident's family insisting she was to be resuscitated despite the fact she was in her ninties and at latter stages of dementia. sorry to hear this, but its a great example. Why on Earth would the authorities want to resus such a person? for what purpose? We are all going to die, would there have been any point resus'ing your Dad to have him live another few hours or days in that state, especially when he was so close to the end anyway?
corner of hells wrote: » I think at the moment we have an informal "do not resuscitate " at the moment. I remember with my own father in his final years he was effectively a vegetable with dementia we made an agreement with the nursing home manager and his GP that he was not to be resuscitated. Everyone had to be in agreement. I do also remember another resident's family insisting she was to be resuscitated despite the fact she was in her ninties and at latter stages of dementia.
Hannibal_Smith wrote: » Apparently, that medical staff can quicken a death? A friend of mine told me that when her dad was in the final stages of cancer and about to go any minute the nurses in the hospice moved him in such a way to quicken the process? I don't know how accurate that is, but along with the DNR, if it is true it would seem there are forms of euthanasia here already.
gctest50 wrote: » NIMAN wrote: » sorry to hear this, but its a great example. Why on Earth would the authorities want to resus such a person? for what purpose? We are all going to die, would there have been any point resus'ing your Dad to have him live another few hours or days in that state, especially when he was so close to the end anyway? One reason in some cases is every extra week they spend in a nursing home is an extra few grand It is also low risk -they probably won't be wandering off - wrong medication and they die ? oh they slipped away in the small hours etc .
MonkieSocks wrote: » This one?
mickoneill31 wrote: » You know you don't just wake up one day with full blown alzheimer's.
corner of hells wrote: » Maybe I'm picking you up wrong but as far as I know a significant amount of residents contribute to there keep in some way in nursing homes whether privately , fair deal or subvention. In regard to the "wrong medication" comment and a resident dying ,that's astonishing , your hardly suggesting there's some form of collusion to and residents lives ?
RobbingBandit wrote: » That's pretty much a Do Not Resuscitate order, it's a tricky subject is possible to set one up but not an open topic in most cases.
gctest50 wrote: » That's misleading - it's for terminally ill kids.]
Lone Stone wrote: » you cant even get an abortion so i doubt euthanasia will be a thing in my life time
corner of hells wrote: » In regard to the "wrong medication" comment and a resident dying ,that's astonishing , your hardly suggesting there's some form of collusion to and residents lives ?
lazybones32 wrote: » In Jan this year, a female doctor was found to have acted "in good faith" after sedating a patient (slipped it in her coffee) and got family members to hold her down as she was euthanized - against her will. The patient had expressed a desire for euthanasia but only "when i feel the time is right for me" but in the days prior to her death, she had indicated a clear desire to continue living. The doctor decided and the patients resistance was futile. Collusion, you ask? Lol.
lazybones32 wrote: » Pic is hilarious!😅Kids can seek it. Or can they not?
The Belgian law has very strict rules for the euthanasia to be approved. It requires the minor to be in the final stages of a terminal illness, to understand the difference between life and death rationally and to have asked to end his or her life on repeated occasions. It also requires parental consent and finally the approval of two doctors, including a psychiatrist.
lazybones32 wrote: » Pic is hilarious!😅 Kids can seek it. Or can they not?
server down wrote: » You got a link for that?
lazybones32 wrote: » corner of hells wrote: » In regard to the "wrong medication" comment and a resident dying ,that's astonishing , your hardly suggesting there's some form of collusion to and residents lives ? In Jan this year, a female doctor was found to have acted "in good faith" after sedating a patient (slipped it in her coffee) and got family members to hold her down as she was euthanized - against her will. The patient had expressed a desire for euthanasia but only "when i feel the time is right for me" but in the days prior to her death, she had indicated a clear desire to continue living. The doctor decided and the patients resistance was futile. Collusion, you ask? Lol.
lazybones32 wrote: » Google it. I'm on the phone, so i can't link and if i was on the laptop i wouldn't link. You are able to use search engines, so choose a few words and you'll find it if you want.
server down wrote: » the picture of a dying child in extreme pain, pain that contorts her so much her veins bulge - you find that hilarious? That’s pretty sick.
server down wrote: » lazybones32 wrote: » Google it. I'm on the phone, so i can't link and if i was on the laptop i wouldn't link. You are able to use search engines, so choose a few words and you'll find it if you want. I take it then there is no link or you can’t use a search engine. (Tip: search engines work on mobiles). It isn’t up to me or anybody else on this forum to prove your story. You’ve already proven yourself to be the kind of man who laughs at a dying child though, so this failure is not surprising
lazybones32 wrote: » My disdain is for the poster, not the picture. 150,000 people, on average, die every day. How many of them can be saved by me having sympathy or empathy or crying the most heartfelt tears that i'm capable of?
server down wrote: » I take it then there is no link or you can’t use a search engine. (Tip: search engines work on mobiles). It isn’t up to me or anybody else on this forum to prove your story. You’ve already proven yourself to be the kind of man who laughs at a dying child though, so this failure is not surprising
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