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Do you think Euthanasia will ever be legal in Ireland?

NIMAN

I heard a report today saying that our already crumbling health service is going to have another third of a workload placed on it by 2030 due to people living longer and an aging population.

It doesn't bode well.

Got to thinking about how many people are a strain on the system when they are barely living or have major health issues, and many might decide to take the assisted suicide route if it was available.

I know it can sound cruel, but is it a viable future option for us as a nation? We have been progressive in so many other issues, why not euthanasia?

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NIMAN

I see a parallel with this and the 8th amendment.

We are being told it is a woman's right to do whatever she wants with her body, and apparently a large section of the population agree with this.

So why isn't it my decision if I have a terminal, painful illness to let me decide what to do with my own body?

Firblog

I'd hope that it will be made legal; I see no point in exhausting huge resources trying to keep people alive in poor health for years. I believe that if someone wishes to die in a dignified manner, either to escape pain, or living in a way that is abhorrent to them, they should have the right.

Perhaps if people could register that wish, say in a will that is updated / reaffirmed yearly - for 3 or more years, then it should be recognised and facilitated.

gctest50

lazybones32 wrote: »

The Belgians have gone loop-the-loop with euthanasia: kids can seek it, mentally-ill people (depression), people with non-terminal diseases or illnesses get it. They killed about 4,000 people in 14/15 and the British Medical Journal found that proper procedure was not always followed - nurses reported that certain doctors skipped certain important bits, like getting the consent of the patient (that was either Holland or Belgium or both). Google it instead of aksing me for links.

lazybones32 wrote: »

kids can seek it.

That's misleading - it's for terminally ill kids

The Belgian law has very strict rules for the euthanasia to be approved. It requires the minor to be in the final stages of a terminal illness, to understand the difference between life and death rationally and to have asked to end his or her life on repeated occasions. It also requires parental consent and finally the approval of two doctors, including a psychiatrist.

Sephiroth_dude

No chance!

lazybones32

The Belgians have gone loop-the-loop with euthanasia: kids can seek it, mentally-ill people (depression), people with non-terminal diseases or illnesses get it. They killed about 4,000 people in 14/15 and the British Medical Journal found that proper procedure was not always followed - nurses reported that certain doctors skipped certain important bits, like getting the consent of the patient (that was either Holland or Belgium or both). Google it instead of aksing me for links.

NIMAN

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Nope too many brain washed crazies who can't accept some people just want to die rather than suffer through endless fruitless torture. People or their loved ones should have a right to chose how it ends for them same as a woman should have the right to choose but not here unfortunately.

I've got a lot of medical issues myself the past few years thankfully none of them terminal if they were I'd like to have the opportunity whilst still able to end things on my own terms and I'm sure many others would think the same in the same boat.

This is the scenario I envisage it being involved in, if it was ever to happen.

Not the silly options so many people argue against.

RobbingBandit

Nope too many brain washed crazies who can't accept some people just want to die rather than suffer through endless fruitless torture. People or their loved ones should have a right to chose how it ends for them same as a woman should have the right to choose but not here unfortunately.

I've got a lot of medical issues myself the past few years thankfully none of them terminal if they were I'd like to have the opportunity whilst still able to end things on my own terms and I'm sure many others would think the same in the same boat.

Hitman3000

Johngoose wrote:

Bertie Aherne advocated suicide. So maybe if he gets back in power. Don't see Sinn Fein having an issue with it either.

No fan of Bertie but that's not true. The youtube clip is still out there.

Hector Bellend

nice bit of an aul euthanasia

eviltwin

I would be in favour of assisted suicide. Euthanasia conjures up images of people being bumped off because it's the wish of someone else.

Gwynplaine

Waiting on Ali G quote.

SEPT 23 1989

When the pain at the end becomes too much

I want the power to say enough is enough

branie2

It's legal in Switzerland

mickoneill31

Hitman3000 wrote: »

So you think someone with Alzheimer's would be in a fully cognitive state to want to end their days? Sure why stop there what about those in a coma?

You know you don't just wake up one day with full blown alzheimer's.

Johngoose

Bertie Aherne advocated suicide. So maybe if he gets back in power. Don't see Sinn Fein having an issue with it either.

Hitman3000

NIMAN wrote:

Well obviously there would be rules. That's must madness. You'd have to have some sort of terminal disease or else alzheimers or something.

So you think someone with Alzheimer's would be in a fully cognitive state to want to end their days? Sure why stop there what about those in a coma?

Jimbob1977

We need a system like Logan's Run

Our life clock will extinguish at age 30.

The crystal in our palm will turn black.

Then we need to renew in Carousel

branie2

I doubt it

harry Bailey esq

Over my dead body :mad:

buried

Good luck trying to find any politician who is looking forward to living off 10 or 12 pensions legislating for that sort of program

NIMAN

freshpopcorn wrote: »

It's hard to know to be honest but I know people who want to keep he 8th amendment but they'd support Euthanasia being allowed.
However selling it as a way take strain off the health system wouldn't want to mentioned.
The other issue you'd encounter would be stories from other countries about people choosing euthanasia because the cat died.

Well obviously there would be rules. That's must madness. You'd have to have some sort of terminal disease or else alzheimers or something.

freshpopcorn

It's hard to know to be honest but I know people who want to keep he 8th amendment but they'd support Euthanasia being allowed.
However selling it as a way take strain off the health system wouldn't want to mentioned.
The other issue you'd encounter would be stories from other countries about people choosing euthanasia because the cat died.