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beef price tracker

49801

any interest in having a factory beef price tracker on here?

got 4 hiefers to go, 3rs and 1o

got the following quotes for base price on Mon 23 Jan

4.10e/kg aibp bandon
4.15e/kg aibp cahir

quotes including bord bia
am holding tough as hoping for 4.25e/kg

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blue5000

I reckon the further north you are the better chance you have of a price rise. Lot of cattle housed and have a dose got in the last couple of weeks, and not so many that can be killed off grass. Just my €0.02.

CloughCasey1

Willfarman wrote: »

I have a notion that yes there will be a fractional improvement in 3 weeks time or so.

Your "notions" are usually good second hand facts/info.☺

Willfarman

I have a notion that yes there will be a fractional improvement in 3 weeks time or so.

CloughCasey1

Jack C wrote: »

Any stir in base price for steers.
Housed a few a couple of weeks ago that I'd normally finish off grass. Starting to go over 30 in a month. Can't see any change myself in the short term.

There wont be much of a stir till possibly start of Dec and if they fill their feedlots with cheap aax/hex that are being panic sold in last few and next few weeks, there will be feck all of a rise.

Jack C

Any stir in base price for steers.
Housed a few a couple of weeks ago that I'd normally finish off grass. Starting to go over 30 in a month. Can't see any change myself in the short term.

squinn2912

WE did use grovite but this and last year gave calves boluses. Gave store cattle them as well last year more on neighbor's advice than anything. The difference is that they buy in all their stock while we rear ours so the difference of night and day was because the cattle bought in were likely only half dosed if at all. Noticed very little difference with bolus. We were late this year getting a dose on calves and I certainly noticed that, it took them a while to respond and bloom up again, meaning that we kept all of our weanlings. It was a bad year weather wise as well so there are several factors but the ones you can control you need to. The bolus' are an awful undertaking as well trying to hold cattle. There are some suggesting that cows should get them too but I don't fancy trying to talk them into it. We'll have to join this millennium and get a bar for the crush!

White Clover

20silkcut wrote: »

My vet swears by a dose of bovitrace down the mouth once a month to ensure they all get it.

I do similar myself, using grovite forte every 3 months or so. Only sure way that you know they have it got.

Cavanjack

How much are these blouses? It's hardly worth giving to dry stock is it, unless your land is severely deficient in something.

20silkcut

nhg wrote: »

Who2 wrote: »

How do you know they are still working? That they haven't chewed them up and shat them back out? That they didn't throw them up two minutes after you put them in? Do you really believe the bonus will sit there and release a set amount of minerals per day?

That's why I threw that comment out there... To find out what people's opinion is on them..

I have often seen bolus scattered around the field shat out whole after dosing.

20silkcut

My vet swears by a dose of bovitrace down the mouth once a month to ensure they all get it.

nhg

Who2 wrote: »

How do you know they are still working? That they haven't chewed them up and shat them back out? That they didn't throw them up two minutes after you put them in? Do you really believe the bonus will sit there and release a set amount of minerals per day?

That's why I threw that comment out there... To find out what people's opinion is on them..

Who2

nhg wrote: »

How can you be sure each animal gets the correct amount of minerals each day, we give the allsure bolus that way we know that every bullock has had the correct amount.

How do you know they are still working? That they haven't chewed them up and shat them back out? That they didn't throw them up two minutes after you put them in? Do you really believe the bonus will sit there and release a set amount of minerals per day?

nhg

How can you be sure each animal gets the correct amount of minerals each day, we give the allsure bolus that way we know that every bullock has had the correct amount.

squinn2912

I wouldn't claim to have any expertise in this so I'm hoping to learn a bit on what other people are doing. I can tell you what we usually do. Younger cattle that are getting only a lick of meal along with silage won't get minerals until they go into the sheds. Cows are getting pre calver minerals and high mag lick buckets for those with calves on them. Forward cattle that we're finishing get beef minerals once a day and get (I'd need to double check) 50% maize mixed with meal twice a day. They are staying out and get good quality silage. I always doubted how effective the minerals were and in fact we fed two pens minerals and two none then asked the provider to pick out the pens getting them. His jaw dropped. We stopped buying from him but still get minerals. One thing that sticks in my mind was at a Better Farm walk at Willy Treacy's (I hope naming him is ok) where he spoke at length about the minerals for fattening cattle to keep the stomach cool and regulate the acidity levels to allow the animal to thrive. I don't know that it makes the world of difference but if he's at it and lots of the advice on here seems to agree then I'll bow to the more knowledgable than I! We have had finishing cattle getting no minerals and they did more than well so plenty of contradiction but for all the cost there is it's probably as well give them.
For yourself I'd be interested to see what the other guys on here think. Shaking the minerals into the feeder sounds through other to me you're bound to lose a lot of them through the bale. You could put a crumb of meal down to hold the minerals and perhaps do it every other day? It depends on the amount of cattle feeding at the feeder. Can they all get around it at the same time? If not then it's hard to know how they will all get them. Plenty to consider but you know your own set up better than anyone

tatoo

squinn2912 wrote: »

No id put it on the trough along with whatever meal they get

Trough ? What trough ??

Good quality baled silage is all they get, and plenty of fresh air, I give any of the cattle approaching their 30 month date rolled barley and beef meal/maize mix from September onwards , but that's the first rations they would get unless they were in need of a bit of tlc.

I suppose I could shake some beef mineral onto the bale once they'd have it well started ?

larthehar

Thanks for the replys.. mixed opinions.. i have two pens if them so maybe i will squeeze 1 pen and see how they go.. they are fairly even at the moment so prob the best thing to do.. i will only lose on half!!

gerryirl

Cavanjack wrote: »

If your selling weanlings don't squeeze them. Let the next man worry about that. They'll thrive better all winter for you too.

ya and don't dose them either let the next man worry about that too..lol.. seriously though I'm buying weanlings the last month and Id say 80% of them haven't seen a dose. When weaning it goes very hard on the ones that had no dose.You can tell the ones that were dosed.

Bass Reeves

larthehar wrote: »

I.l compromise.. i brought the heaviest to the mart and will see how they go.. the rest i will winter.. should i squeeze or not is the next thing..

My inclination would be to squeeze them. Yearling bulls sell at a fairly good discount to bullocks. way less buyers around the ring.

CHOPS01 wrote: »

Could this be fed on a shake of rolled barley.

Yes it could be fed on rolled barley it could also be used to top up minerals in a ration where you are only feeding low amounts/head(1 KGish)

CloughCasey1

Cavanjack wrote: »

Plenty of non armchair farmers that will want bulls too, they could still be squeezed at that age too.

Plenty to be sure but the same lads buy by weight not colour.

CHOPS01

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Bagged minerals I usually buy from Dairygold they have a good general purpose beef mineral at present tvey ha e a 6 for the price of 5 and it works out 15-16/25kg bag. 100 grams/ head forcattle over 500kgs costs 6c/head/day or about 7 euro/ winter.

Could this be fed on a shake of rolled barley.

Cavanjack

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

They will thrive better alright. But when the AFB (armchair farmer brigade) come out in force after their fill for paddys day will they want to buy yearling bulls for their grass? Would there not be a better market on golden/white/red bullocks?

Plenty of non armchair farmers that will want bulls too, they could still be squeezed at that age too.

CloughCasey1

Cavanjack wrote: »

If your selling weanlings don't squeeze them. Let the next man worry about that. They'll thrive better all winter for you too.

They will thrive better alright. But when the AFB (armchair farmer brigade) come out in force after their fill for paddys day will they want to buy yearling bulls for their grass? Would there not be a better market on golden/white/red bullocks?

Cavanjack

larthehar wrote: »

I.l compromise.. i brought the heaviest to the mart and will see how they go.. the rest i will winter.. should i squeeze or not is the next thing..

If your selling weanlings don't squeeze them. Let the next man worry about that. They'll thrive better all winter for you too.

squinn2912

larthehar wrote: »

squinn2912 wrote: »

I agree. If you have space and feeding and can do without the money for a while I'd hang on. Those cubs probably didn't put much on in the last 6 weeks and prices in marts down a bit

I.l compromise.. i brought the heaviest to the mart and will see how they go.. the rest i will winter.. should i squeeze or not is the next thing..

I can only tell you that we squeezed last week main reason is we're not going for bull beef the question is whether or not you want to push them all winter

larthehar

squinn2912 wrote: »

I agree. If you have space and feeding and can do without the money for a while I'd hang on. Those cubs probably didn't put much on in the last 6 weeks and prices in marts down a bit

I.l compromise.. i brought the heaviest to the mart and will see how they go.. the rest i will winter.. should i squeeze or not is the next thing..

squinn2912

I agree. If you have space and feeding and can do without the money for a while I'd hang on. Those cubs probably didn't put much on in the last 6 weeks and prices in marts down a bit

grange mac

gerryirl wrote: »

If there good quality and are good weights and the right age I'd load them up now. You could get as much for them now as you will in spring. It's all a chance to know what to do.

Probably6 weeks too late to be selling them, bought number U grade Char/Lim paid 500+weight recently .....had been looking since August....export buyers stopped for moment down southwestern so dont throw them away....next march/ ground drys people be tearing for them....unless brexit or mercuser throws a spanner in works.

gerryirl

If there good quality and are good weights and the right age I'd load them up now. You could get as much for them now as you will in spring. It's all a chance to know what to do.

larthehar

gerryirl wrote: »

Are you buying them in or are they your own calves and what type of cattle are they,

home bred, Charolais X.. whites and golds..

gerryirl

Are you buying them in or are they your own calves and what type of cattle are they,