Deleted User wrote: » No idea. I was walking the prom a few weeks back and took a good look at it, it's in a disastrous state on the exterior now. Whoever is managing it now need to look at dipping into the sinking fund ASAP before serious structural damage is done
youngrun wrote: » Not forgetting the Oasis , tourist office, the old Kitty o sheas pub, site beside burrenmount etc etc Surely some kind of Tourist Area or Urban renewal scheme needed . or even Apartment developments overhead commercials, they sell or rent all day
Celestial12 wrote: » Yep, it would be nice to see something happen with it over the next few years. Especially seeing as Salthill is considered to be one of the nicer parts of the city. There hasn't been much investment in the city over the past decade.
youngrun wrote: » There could be another massive thread on this very point, the city is basically maxed out at present, not enough road infrastructure/public transport, very little housing or new build commercial since 2006 . I guess it needs private investors to push on but there must be a role for government, regional agencies and city and county council in an overall action plan . Salthill seems to be going ok, food wise /coffee etc but a lot more potential there
Mrs OBumble wrote: » Galway City Development Plan information is available here: http://www.galwaycity.ie/development-plan-downloads-2017/ The County Council has a similar plan - not so relevant to this thread, because Salthill is in the city. AFAIK, the council's role is to set the strategy and make planning decisions, not to make investments.
Nettle Soup wrote: » I think Salthill has come on a lot in the past 5 years. Great pubs, cafes and restaurants now.
Bredabe wrote: » Salthill needs to decide what it is, most of the time its all about the tourists, businesses. locals, who keep said businesses going in the summer have very few facilities. .... For example, there is no direct bus to the family shop type shops if you don't want to go into town.
Mrs OBumble wrote: » I presume you mean winter. Church. Bingo hall. Several doctors surgeries. Big physio clinic. Osteopath. GAA club. Tennis club. Golf course. Quincentenniary (? Spelling) park. Several schools, primary and secondary. Post office. Women's refuge. Several respite care homes. Accountancy firm. All more useful to locals than tourists. Bus 410 runs from Eyre Square to Knocknacarra, via Salthill and Joyce. Currently a 6-day service, with Sunday buses being trialed this month.[/QUO As I say, very little there for residence if they were not interested in schools/churches/gaa. The rest are either businesses or services that are available in most areas. Today, I cant get a bus on the Salthill road to say, Dunnes or Joyce and I don't believe that trial will take off, not that once an hour is enough anyway. That does not negate the need for family shop type outlets, even more important now there will be more BUSINESSES that cater to older people and self-catering. I for one would not call a refuge/hardstand/DPC, facilities, more a sad reflection on how this country treats it's vulnerable. While the parks can be lovely, they have issues with broken glass/vandalism/anti-social behavior. As I say, it needs to decide what it is, and build accordingly.
Bredabe wrote: » Mrs OBumble wrote: » I presume you mean winter. Church. Bingo hall. Several doctors surgeries. Big physio clinic. Osteopath. GAA club. Tennis club. Golf course. Quincentenniary (? Spelling) park. Several schools, primary and secondary. Post office. Women's refuge. Several respite care homes. Accountancy firm. All more useful to locals than tourists. Bus 410 runs from Eyre Square to Knocknacarra, via Salthill and Joyce. Currently a 6-day service, with Sunday buses being trialed this month.[/QUO As I say, very little there for residence if they were not interested in schools/churches/gaa. The rest are either businesses or services that are available in most areas. Today, I cant get a bus on the Salthill road to say, Dunnes or Joyce and I don't believe that trial will take off, not that once an hour is enough anyway. That does not negate the need for family shop type outlets, even more important now there will be more BUSINESSES that cater to older people and self-catering. I for one would not call a refuge/hardstand/DPC, facilities, more a sad reflection on how this country treats it's vulnerable. While the parks can be lovely, they have issues with broken glass/vandalism/anti-social behavior. As I say, it needs to decide what it is, and build accordingly. Youre looking for a large supermarket to sort Salthills woes? Its just that thats all youve really mentioned in your posts. Salthill is a 'village' catering to tourists for large swathes of the year, locals keep the businesses ticking over for the rest of the year. Some private investment in the derelict buildings would improve the work of recent years. There are nice places to eat, drink and relax out there, moreso than most other city suburbs too.
ben.schlomo wrote: » Bredabe wrote: » Youre looking for a large supermarket to sort Salthills woes? Its just that thats all youve really mentioned in your posts. Salthill is a 'village' catering to tourists for large swathes of the year, locals keep the businesses ticking over for the rest of the year. Some private investment in the derelict buildings would improve the work of recent years. There are nice places to eat, drink and relax out there, moreso than most other city suburbs too. Not sure who this is aimed at, as MOB didn't mention a supermarket, but I'll answer that anyway, yes I'm looking for a supermarket, a cinema, indoor play facilities for children and a covered cycle/running/jogging lane to name a few. All of these will benefit tourists and locals alike. Given that there will be another largish retirement home/hostel/apartments in the area shortly, I think a family shop supermarket is the least these people will want. If they get into the habit of going to knocknacarra or into town, they will shop local less, not more. I'm told there are nice places to eat and drink in Salthill, but as there a people who have lived there for generations, there should, in my opinion, be more facilities like those for ppl who actually shop local when the tourists leave. Many many resorts in the world manage to blend the needs of the local population with the wants of tourists. Salthill is getting left behind in this regard, such a shame as ppl believe that home-based holidays will boom in the near future.
Bredabe wrote: » Youre looking for a large supermarket to sort Salthills woes? Its just that thats all youve really mentioned in your posts. Salthill is a 'village' catering to tourists for large swathes of the year, locals keep the businesses ticking over for the rest of the year. Some private investment in the derelict buildings would improve the work of recent years. There are nice places to eat, drink and relax out there, moreso than most other city suburbs too.
Bredabe wrote: » ben.schlomo wrote: » Not sure who this is aimed at, as MOB didn't mention a supermarket, but I'll answer that anyway, yes I'm looking for a supermarket, a cinema, indoor play facilities for children and a covered cycle/running/jogging lane to name a few. All of these will benefit tourists and locals alike. Given that there will be another largish retirement home/hostel/apartments in the area shortly, I think a family shop supermarket is the least these people will want. If they get into the habit of going to knocknacarra or into town, they will shop local less, not more. I'm told there are nice places to eat and drink in Salthill, but as there a people who have lived there for generations, there should, in my opinion, be more facilities like those for ppl who actually shop local when the tourists leave. Many many resorts in the world manage to blend the needs of the local population with the wants of tourists. Salthill is getting left behind in this regard, such a shame as ppl believe that home-based holidays will boom in the near future. I suppose SuperValu (soon to be Joyce's) could be counted as Salthill at a push. You couldn't really have one right in the village due to traffic issues.
ben.schlomo wrote: » Not sure who this is aimed at, as MOB didn't mention a supermarket, but I'll answer that anyway, yes I'm looking for a supermarket, a cinema, indoor play facilities for children and a covered cycle/running/jogging lane to name a few. All of these will benefit tourists and locals alike. Given that there will be another largish retirement home/hostel/apartments in the area shortly, I think a family shop supermarket is the least these people will want. If they get into the habit of going to knocknacarra or into town, they will shop local less, not more. I'm told there are nice places to eat and drink in Salthill, but as there a people who have lived there for generations, there should, in my opinion, be more facilities like those for ppl who actually shop local when the tourists leave. Many many resorts in the world manage to blend the needs of the local population with the wants of tourists. Salthill is getting left behind in this regard, such a shame as ppl believe that home-based holidays will boom in the near future.
thesandeman wrote: » Bredabe wrote: » I suppose SuperValu (soon to be Joyce's) could be counted as Salthill at a push. You couldn't really have one right in the village due to traffic issues. Its 20-minute walk from the old Warwick(where the new retirement village is due to be) so a bit far for more elderly or fragile people, esp when they have a bus stop within feet and a free travel pass. The way I see it, if its a centrally situated supermarket, fewer people will bring their cars but places like the old Burrenmount/Marian house have a lot of space around them and could work. They could probably use that old casino close to the fisherman either, tho I feel that would be better used for a village market type operation.
Bredabe wrote: » I suppose SuperValu (soon to be Joyce's) could be counted as Salthill at a push. You couldn't really have one right in the village due to traffic issues.
thesandeman wrote: » People will still drive there if it's a 'name' supermarket. Old habits die hard. Nothing is going to happen with the Burrenmount for a while. Ditto for the casino, the licence is still being kept alive for the future. The only place would be the back of Salthill but the residents won't have that. While I agree Salthill needs regeneration (always has done), a supermarket wouldn't be near the top of my priorities. Centra etc have pretty much anything the locals need.
Bredabe wrote: » As I say, very little there for residence if they were not interested in schools/churches/gaa. The rest are either businesses or services that are available in most areas. Today, I cant get a bus on the Salthill road to say, Dunnes or Joyce...
Mrs OBumble wrote: » Ahh, today is Tuesday. So yes, you can. Bus 401 goes from Pearce Stadium, down the hill, then most of the length of Salthill and will drop you outside the former SuperValu in the Claddagh, now also a Joyces. Bus 410 runs the length of Salthill, and will drop you outside Joyces Knocknacarra - or in the other direction at the hospital, a very important feature for an aging neighbourhood! Agree that an hourly service on it isn't great - but it's not the only option A large supermarket is never going to be built on prime sea-front land. And the amount of space that it would require for carparking is large - are you aware that the parking behind Bailey point already gets substantial use, I assume from people living there. Far more would be needed. Underground parking would be a flooding nightmare. And large trucks with late night / early morning delivery noises may upset delicate ears. Re your other facilities: Cinema - yeah, I can see that being handy. Not sure how viable it would be, though, with three other cinemas in town. Also not a building that could capitalise on the seafront views, so best located elsewhere. Covered running track - I'm not sure how that would work, cannot see people being happy with losing regular park-space to covered park space, and surely it would be a magnet for covered bush-drinking. Are there similar facilities anywhere else in the country? Indoor children's play area - you mean like there is in Seapoint? Or maybe the Monkey-Business type thing that is in Galway Shopping Centre? There would be space for such a thing in Leisureland, surprised the management there haven't tried it already - or maybe they did, and know that it would be a zoo. (Actually, I have a feeling that Leisureland has an indoor play area near the cafe ... maybe that was pre-storm-refurb though.) Comparing Salthill to other suburbs, say, Newcastle or Renmore, it looks to me Salthill already has an impressive array of facilities.
Celestial12 wrote: » People park along the prom/Salthill though so that would make it difficult to facilitate a bike lane, especially during summer months. With cars parked on both sides near the aquarium the road really isn't that wide.
what_traffic wrote: » It's plenty wide - just need to remove all the car parking on the Prom side. All the cars can park on the other side of the road. It is the norm in most European country's with a promenade to have a cycle, roller blade section like this. All these cars are doing is blocking views of the sea. It was in one of the City Development plans - of course no political will to do it by the Council.
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