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Xiaomi Smart Home

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Anyone on here have experience of the Xiaomi Smart Home stuff? It all runs on ZigBee and requires yet another hub but the pricing seems very attractive!
For example €6 for a Door/Windows sensor

€6 for a smart button

€40 for a dual paddle zigbee wall switch with local control

There is also a custom component to plug all this into Home Assistant (& SmartThings)

I'd like to hear if anyone has first hand experience with this stuff before I make the plunge.

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THE ALM

jmBuildExt wrote: »

2 types: wireless and wired. Wireless is battery operated so no.
And according to this post
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=103515689&postcount=21
wired version doesnt either.

That what I was thinking as I don't see a neutral being mentioned and it would be the wired version I would be more interested in. Will probably take a chance on them and trial them out, if I could replace a couple of switches with these and integrate with HA then I could look to add to it.

Also mentioned in another post but I am keeping an eye out to see how the Echo Plus performs when it is launched, with the built in zigbee hub it could be a great way of controlling these without having to get a separate hub.

jmBuildExt

THE ALM wrote: »

Been looking at a few of these items as well and just wondering before taking the plunge if the light switches require a neutral if replacing existing switches?

Thanks

2 types: wireless and wired. Wireless is battery operated so no.
And according to this post
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=103515689&postcount=21
wired version doesnt either.

THE ALM

Been looking at a few of these items as well and just wondering before taking the plunge if the light switches require a neutral if replacing existing switches?

Thanks

matrim wrote: »

Does the hub work over WiFi or do you need a wired connection (like the hue hub)?

Wifi

matrim

Does the hub work over WiFi or do you need a wired connection (like the hue hub)?

eringobragh

Just ordered this and the wired 2 way switch - been waiting for something I can use to replace the light switch without running a neutral.

FrankGrimes

paulbok wrote: »

Have it on a Pi 3, with an Aeotec z-wave stick. These Xiaomi zigbee devices will be picked up by it's gateway hub. You would need a zigbee stick if not using the Xiaomi kit, but the Smartthings hub is zigbee so you could use that as a dumb hub to pick up devices, but you are then relying on it to have cloud access to work.
Any half decent spec will run HA, the new Hass-io build is a doddle to install (on a Pi anyway). If your spare pc is suitable to run a nas or file server, it'll be grand, you just need to make sure it stays on permanently.

Check out a guy called Ben / Bruh automation on YouTube for good tutorials on HA,

Thanks for that. Not sure what you mean about needing a zigbee stick if not using the Xaomi kit, is it a case of if using Xaomi then HA works with the Xaomi hub directly? I’d probably get a Zigbee stick anyway as I have a few Hue devices already (and a load of zwave Fibaro modules I’ve prepurchased for ceiling light control and led strips). Like the idea of the Xaomi motion and window and door sensors. Overall though, reliability is key, I want set it and forget it and if HA is more likely to give that, I’d opt for it over ST. Thanks again, will check out that guy on YouTube.

paulbok

Have it on a Pi 3, with an Aeotec z-wave stick. These Xiaomi zigbee devices will be picked up by it's gateway hub. You would need a zigbee stick if not using the Xiaomi kit, but the Smartthings hub is zigbee so you could use that as a dumb hub to pick up devices, but you are then relying on it to have cloud access to work.
Any half decent spec will run HA, the new Hass-io build is a doddle to install (on a Pi anyway). If your spare pc is suitable to run a nas or file server, it'll be grand, you just need to make sure it stays on permanently.

Check out a guy called Ben / Bruh automation on YouTube for good tutorials on HA,

FrankGrimes

paulbok wrote: »

What turned you off them?
I was a big fan at the start but the more I added bits that didn't natively work with ST, the less enamoured I became. Then when routines etc kept failing, that was the last straw.

That’s interesting to hear, I’ve only implemented a few standalone items with ST so far and was planning on using it for my full house solution in our new build but sounds like it may be worth looking at HA.

What are you running HA on? If I have to have an extra machine, I’d like it to be HA hub, NAS/file server, NVR for IP cameras all in one (and have a spare PC that should be powerful enough) is that feasible? I have a zwave USB stick (cant recall which one) is it a case of adding a Zigbee USB stick, installing HA and away you go?

paulbok

Stoner wrote: »

I've removed smartthings too.

What turned you off them?
I was a big fan at the start but the more I added bits that didn't natively work with ST, the less enamoured I became. Then when routines etc kept failing, that was the last straw.

Stoner

paulbok wrote:

Ordered from Gearbest, (Link on 1st post). Paid extra 9 Euros for 5-7 day delivery. Did have free delivery but that was I think 15-22 days delivery. Going to setup on Home Assistant, kinda giving up on Smartthings. If these are a success, I'll replace the remaining ST gear I have and flog it.

I've removed smartthings too.

paulbok

Smartthings in general. Routines are constantly failing on me, they work for a week or two, then a random light goes on/off when it triggers then it stops working.
I've messed around with HA over the summer and like that I can customise routines the way I want them, I find ST restrictive on what you can do.
More native component integration on HA compared to ST.
I also prefer not to have to depend on the ST hub having a broadband connection to work.
I'm hoping the Xiaomi kits prove more reliable.

FrankGrimes

paulbok wrote: »

Ordered from Gearbest, (Link on 1st post). Paid extra 9 Euros for 5-7 day delivery. Did have free delivery but that was I think 15-22 days delivery. Going to setup on Home Assistant, kinda giving up on Smartthings.
If these are a success, I'll replace the remaining ST gear I have and flog it.

Giving up on SmartThings in general or just for Xaomi? Have found ST good so far and the community gives encouragement it’ll only improve, but disappointed to see the Xaomi reliability issues seem fairly widespread

paulbok

I went with the home security bundle, a couple of extra sensors and one wired double light switch. Like yourself BK, if I'm happy with them I'll get a few more sensors and will change all my light switches with them.

I ordered the hub, wireless switch, 2 x door/window sensors, 2 x motion sensors from Gearbest a few days ago. Going to give it a go as a basic connected security system.

If it goes well I'll probably add at least one wired switch and some more sensors.

I really like that you can cheaply add sensors as you need.

paulbok

Ordered from Gearbest, (Link on 1st post). Paid extra 9 Euros for 5-7 day delivery. Did have free delivery but that was I think 15-22 days delivery. Going to setup on Home Assistant, kinda giving up on Smartthings.
If these are a success, I'll replace the remaining ST gear I have and flog it.

FrankGrimes

paulbok wrote: »

Ordered some kit from Xiaomi last night, the hub and some sensors. Also got one light switch to try out, I'm hoping it will be what I'm looking for in a switch - local, remote & automated control of non smart lights. I believe it will, I want to have smart control and eliminate accidental turning off of the traditional switch .
Had been tempted by the G2 Lightwaverf kit, but there is no comparison on price

Who did you buy from and what’s the anticipated delivery timeframe? Will order some to test how well they actually work with SmartThings

paulbok

Ordered some kit from Xiaomi last night, the hub and some sensors. Also got one light switch to try out, I'm hoping it will be what I'm looking for in a switch - local, remote & automated control of non smart lights. I believe it will, I want to have smart control and eliminate accidental turning off of the traditional switch .
Had been tempted by the G2 Lightwaverf kit, but there is no comparison on price

tipperary

Currently considering one of these and looking for some advice on what I need to get. Currently have a number of outside lights all controlled by a single switch. I would like to replace the switch with a 'smart switch' that I can configure to turn on when it gets dark, and turn off at a set time (say 11pm).
Questions are is this the system that will best suit my needs, and what parts do I need to make this work?

Gimme Stitches

Xiaomi's answer to Alexa: https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/26/xiaomi-mi-ai-speaker-smart-assistant/

jmBuildExt

Stoner wrote: »

You still need the hub

Not necessarily.
I dont use smartthings but it has the hardware to talk directly to the sensors (it uses zigbee).

@FrankGrimes - During my brief googling I came across a thread where a bunch of people in the smartthings community got them working directly with smartthings hub (i.e. no need for xiaomi hub), but there were issues with them "dropping off" or "unpairing" - I'm not sure whether it was resolved.
Heres the link
https://community.smartthings.com/t/xiaomi-zigbee-door-window-sensor-motion-sensor-smart-button-device-type-beta/31948/1

Its quite long, I didn't get to the end so im not sure whether they resolved the issue. It seemed to change with different versions of smartthings firmware.

jmBuildExt

Hi - took delivery of a 4 in 1 kit yesterday (gateway, door sensor, motion, wireless switch). Got it going on the phone, then I used some python scripts to start talking to the gateway to send commands and see the status of the sensors.

Anyway, I can see a voltage status coming back from each of the sensors. Its in the 3100 range for each sensor - so I assume its mili volts.

I'm looking to know at what voltage you should swap the batteries out at so I can set up something to flag that its running low.
Im sure openHab must take care of this? Maybe one of the guys who use it can tell me what it does (although its prob configurable).

Cheers.

pjproby

I am having trouble with the Xiaomi gateway hub. it stopped working about four weeks ago-the yellow light flashes-a message is given in Chinese-but obviously I have no idea what the message is. i have deleted the gateway but the app cannot find it now despite repeated attempts I emailed Xiaomi support to no avail. App is set to mainland China and the gateway is used to control two censors.
Any suggestions appreciated.

the heathen

pastor wrote: »

Xiaomi Yeelights now have Google Home integration as well as Amazon Echo. I have not set it up yet but will do so over the weekend.

I've a single Xiaomi Yeelight bulb which I set up last night with Google Home. Works well although I couldn't get it to activate the preset scenes like 'sunrise' etc or my own self-created favourites.

Xiaomi do say that they should be usable with GH so I'm probably just not asking it correctly. It does turn on/off, dim/brighten and change colour perfectly though.

Let me know if you have more luck Pastor.

Xiaomi post on new Google Home integration - http://forum.yeelight.com/t/yeelight-work-with-google-home/1768

pastor

Xiaomi Yeelights now have Google Home integration as well as Amazon Echo. I have not set it up yet but will do so over the weekend.

Stoner

FrankGrimes wrote:

Will be controlling everything via Smartthings, do I still need the Xiaomi hub? Planning to buy a range of sensors to test them each out (motion, door, humidity etc.), any particular models to avoid?

You still need the hub

FrankGrimes

Going to take a punt and gamble on a few different Xiaomi sensors to try them out in my current house tonseenif they'll prove a reliable option for widescake use when we move to our new house in 6mths. How long does delivery from Gearbest generally take?

Will be controlling everything via Smartthings, do I still need the Xiaomi hub? Planning to buy a range of sensors to test them each out (motion, door, humidity etc.), any particular models to avoid?

paulbok

BionicRasher wrote: »

As opposed to a smarter version?

Gets coat.......and leaving now......

No one likes a smart-ar$e.....

Unless it's z-wave & zigbee compatible and works with Home Assistant 😉

Del007

Does anyone know if the ZigBee Version wall switch will work with the wemo hub? I already have the wemo hub so that would be handy.

BionicRasher

paulbok wrote: »

Is there a dimmer version?

As opposed to a smarter version?

Gets coat.......and leaving now......