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January wrote: » My apologies I read your post wrong and thought you had said up to and not after 22 weeks. Must go back to specsavers. Apologies again!
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » That's because it's not legislation, it's a clause in the constitution and requires a referendum to change it.
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » That's because it's not legislation, it's a clause in the constitution and requires a referendum to change it. Very bad idea to put what should be in legislation into the constitution, because it's so awkward to change it when it needs to be changed. e.g. there is a five year separation requirement for a divorce written into the constitution, many people regard this as ridiculous now but it can't be changed without a referendum. There is also a ridiculous clause requiring blasphemy to be a crime, we're stuck with that too along with a load of other outdated catholic guff about a woman's place being in the home, power deriving not from the people but from the christian god, 'due homage and worship' being due to that god. Also religious oaths for the presidency and judges. Basically if you're not a christian you're not really Irish according to our constitution - lovely.
mahamageehad wrote: » Slightly beside the point, but we are also due more referendums over the next 2 years including a vote on removing the blasphemy thing, a vote on reducing the divorce waiting time and one about the wording of the "place of the women in the home" thing. So, plenty of fun to come! :P
Dotsie~tmp wrote: » Oh that wont be the end. The family will have to be redefined and destroyed. Gender fluid mental disorders will codified. Various other marxist or post-moderist rot.
kylith wrote: » Dogs will marry cats, birds will fly upside down, and the seas will turn to crème brulee!
Tigger wrote: » whats the place of women in the home one
PopePalpatine wrote: » ^The campaigning for that one (as well as a blasphemy referendum) should be a barrel of laughs thanks to 50-50 representation, we might get John Waters back on the airwaves.
Hotblack Desiato wrote: » "Balance" :rolleyes: this just gives unwarranted credibility to lunatic fringes.
Press_Start wrote: » You're signed on with the GP or whoever on prescription birth control. You're using it properly with a practical prevention change of 80-90% effectiveness. You become pregnant, and report this to the doctor. The doctor can make the descision and either go ahead with the abortion, giving you the options, or advise you to have the child and give it up through foster care. I'm fully aware that Birth Control fails, so do seatbelts, airbags and brakes but we still keep them and use them, and deal with the issues that arise after failure. I humbly believe that it will carry eventually, but I can't comprehend why people on the repeal argument can't understand why the moral implications make those of us on the other side feel uncmfortable. *I'm on the side for heavy modification and reassessment of the 8th, not pro-life, abortion is nessessary at times*
Huntergonzo wrote: » This is true, but those lunatics are often experts at shooting themselves in the foot, so while it may be unbearable listening to their outdated rubbish, they serve an important purpose = driving undecided people the other way.
mrkiscool2 wrote: » Wait, are you seriously suggesting that there shouldn't be balance? It's a referendum, no matter your personal believes it's important the electorate is informed of both sides.
Zubeneschamali wrote: » I can't wait to see who they wheel out to defend the references to the Holy Trinity and our Divine Lord, Jesus Christ.
NuMarvel wrote: » Broadcasters will have no problem finding someone for the No side for even the most unobjectionable referendum.
spookwoman wrote: » That goes for the "sane" side as well. Like it or not the no choice lot are very united with the same views whereas the pro choice are not. There are those that are for limited abortions, there are those who are for abortion on demand and then there are the ones in between and all are nearly at each others throats because they all think they are right. Anyone with a different view no matter how slight is nearly seen as the enemy and the more vocal ones what you might call Social Justice Warriors are probably the worst especially on social media and are turning people off.
