end of the road wrote: » there is a difference between looking for work while on JSb and the system in britain which is effectively a try but fail to get it done on the cheap system, by using private companies who are still paid a lot more then the staff as a whole would have been when the lot was operated in public hands.
proof please. the evidence says otherwise.
more rabel rabel nonsense. it's not cost effective to simply cut off people. being tough doesn't work with these people.
Dr Brown wrote: » They wanted him to give his personal data to a private company.
Sonics2k wrote: » What personal data? His name and number?
Stonedpilot wrote: » So if you have like a Masters in chemistry or a PhD or something (many unemployed highly educated) you personally would talk a zero hour minimum wage job in a chippie?. Of course you would pal. Come on. Work your way up to what. Dead end jobs are called that for a reason!. Aint nowhere to go in them.
Ryker Tight Stammerer wrote: » Better for your mental well being than on the dole. I'm dead serious when I say I have told myself if I end up unemployed that I'll take any job. It would keep me sane and no matter what job it is, I could spin it well in an interview to explain that I wanted to work and that I learned transferable skills in this seemingly unrelated field. I work in IT but a fast food job could teach me about efficiency and the importance of processes in the kitchen. Retail would improve my customer facing skills.
midlandsmissus wrote: » I too think seetec is terrible. I was unemployed. For 2 weeks when I got called in. The office is 40 minutes away by car.my nearest one. What is demeaning, frightening and inconvenient is that they say you must attend every meeting or your dole will be cut. I have no control. To add to this , the last time I was called in for an inconvenient workshop the woman was very condescending, and I left the office feeling demeaned. I came away from the process feeling that I have no control, I am treated in there like someone who is not looking for work, (complete opposite) and I am treated like ****. Iam pushed to go for jobs thattey want me to go for, I am not allowed to say no, or my money will be cut. I want to choose my own job, money location etc! These companies get money for each person that they put into a job so we are pushed to do what they want with no choice of our own. how is it fair.
Dr Brown wrote: » They wanted his PPS number which you should never give out to private individuals.
server down wrote: » There’s no way I would do that unless I needed the money. I’d work on personal projects and apply for a lot of positions and spend the time practicing interviews. Can’t see it helping much.
server down wrote: » midlandsmissus wrote: » I too think seetec is terrible. I was unemployed. For 2 weeks when I got called in. The office is 40 minutes away by car.my nearest one. What is demeaning, frightening and inconvenient is that they say you must attend every meeting or your dole will be cut. I have no control. To add to this , the last time I was called in for an inconvenient workshop the woman was very condescending, and I left the office feeling demeaned. I came away from the process feeling that I have no control, I am treated in there like someone who is not looking for work, (complete opposite) and I am treated like ****. Iam pushed to go for jobs thattey want me to go for, I am not allowed to say no, or my money will be cut. I want to choose my own job, money location etc! These companies get money for each person that they put into a job so we are pushed to do what they want with no choice of our own. how is it fair. Did you not have stamps?
Jawgap wrote: » Yeah, I would actually. When I finished college originally I worked in a hotel bar and we used to joke about it being the best graduate school in the country.....I'd a BSc and there was a BComm, a couple of BAs, a Masters in Theology (now a priest) and, literally, a rocket scientist (Masters in Flight Dynamics). When I finished my Masters I spent 2 years working back with the same hotel group.....then one rugby weekend decided, "Feck it, I've a masters I don't need to do this" - and emigrated ......and when I arrived in the country I'd emigrated to I took another bar job for a couple of months while I got sorted and got a job in the field I trained for.
Yawns wrote: » Just for arguments sake, can I have your name, address, phone number and pps number? Just pm it to me there.
Kylee Small Volt wrote: » I'd say he's alright giving it to sky and whatnot People have an issue with data protection only in certain circumstances. It's a weak argument, and if it's really genuine, he can take a case up with the data commissioner.
Kylee Small Volt wrote: » Strawman. There's no private individual here, just a private company. The debating in AH has really gone to crap.
BillyBobBS wrote: » Looks in After Hours, see's another dole thread and closes boards.
Yawns wrote: » So is that a no then? It's a big enough deal that you won't give your information to me. Cool.
Rosie Crashing Suds wrote: » Doesn't matter what you have a masters in, if you're unemployed you're unemployed and anyone with any self respect would rather earn their living than think they're above earning their own crust. You take what you can get until you're where you want to be. In my present role I hire people. I look at cvs. If a cv tells me they've been unemployed but have been volunteering or doing some sort of a scheme that would put someone a good bit ahead of a cv who's been unemployed and has done nothing at all with their time because they feel they're above it. I'm 29. The economy was in bits when I left college with my degree so I went and did something else, ended up finding a job in that industry and have never been on the dole or seeking assistance for being unemployed. Others my age have never worked and blame the government/foreigners/the recession for them not having jobs but even in the toughest time for people my age, there was work to be found if you looked hard enough.
Huntergonzo wrote: » midlandsmissus wrote: » I too think seetec is terrible. I was unemployed. For 2 weeks when I got called in. The office is 40 minutes away by car.my nearest one. What is demeaning, frightening and inconvenient is that they say you must attend every meeting or your dole will be cut. I have no control. To add to this , the last time I was called in for an inconvenient workshop the woman was very condescending, and I left the office feeling demeaned. I came away from the process feeling that I have no control, I am treated in there like someone who is not looking for work, (complete opposite) and I am treated like ****. Iam pushed to go for jobs thattey want me to go for, I am not allowed to say no, or my money will be cut. I want to choose my own job, money location etc! These companies get money for each person that they put into a job so we are pushed to do what they want with no choice of our own. how is it fair. Well look you should never feel demeaned or mistreated by anyone, if you do then you should raise this issue with them."I want to choose my own job, money location etc!" Well that's fine when you're in a position to do so but anyone seeking work should be more flexible than that, granted it isn't always easy but I think jobseekers who are very picky about where they work may actually just be reluctant to work. As a matter of interest did you manage to find a suitable job in the end?
end of the road wrote: » it's not a weak argument but a very very strong one. sky and others are irrelevant to the conversation.
a private company who is not entitled to such information.
end of the road wrote: » In this country it is a right whether you like it or not. it's one most of the people have availed of at some stage whether it be a very short period years ago in mine and many other's cases or a long period because you are unemployable. and? no point in wasting time with these companies who bring nothing to the pie. we all know the people engaging with these companies will highly likely gain little if anything from it. a waste of tax payers money. no point, not cost effective. the dole lifers don't need this kick in the hole as the kick in the hole isn't going to work. they cannot be punished as there is nothing to punish them for, and the punishment can easily be got around. it's throwing money down the drain, as the dole lifers are unemployable and employers don't want them, which is their right. we all love rabel rabel soundbites but they don't make reality.
midlandsmissus wrote: » I did raise the issue with them. Why should I who has studied and paid for four years of university take a low paying job. It makes no sense rhyme or reason to an economy! What Galled me is that they were not trying to help me. They were trying to rush me into any job because they get financial rewards (as a private company) for taking people off the social welfare system. Load of bollox. Why would I be rushed into a low paying job by them when I can get a better paid job in another country. I took another job in another country.
