Sebastian Dangerfield wrote: » Not once this week has the Dart in or out of work been less than 10 mins late. Its late every single day, either in or out, or both, but less than 10 mins seems to be taken as acceptable. The thought of paying more for this **** in any form turns my stomach
ziggy wrote: » Indeed. The company is €160 million in debt and losing money. Let’s strike for more money. WTF?!!
keith_sixteen wrote: » The rail network in Ireland is an embarrassment to the country. It's just so fucking drab.
ChikiChiki wrote: » IR struggle to run the tiny suburban network of about four lines in Dublin. Trains rarely on time (despite their high punctuality propaganda waffle) and very overcrowded at rush hour. Infrastructure failings such as signl faults are also quite common. They are an absolute embarressment in this day in age. There should be no pay increases until they sort their **** out. Once again commuters will be hit in the pocket for any increases awarded and the working classes will be further squeezed needlessly. This has to reach a tipping point some day.
Alf Veedersane wrote: » If you're heading out of the city? Plenty of buses were too full to pick anyone up in city centre heading in the direction I work the last time there was a strike. And very few going out my direction.
gimli2112 wrote: » what kills me about these things is they're looking for 3.75% and being offered 1.75%, say €20 a week in the difference on a relatively small workforce. Yet there's no chance of any resolution or compromise, so an all out strike it is then.
Riva10 wrote: » Fair would be to get rid of the management team who has allowed the debt to continue to increase.
Giselle Black Gumdrop wrote: » You do realise that €20 per week amounts to an additional €4 million per year for a company already losing €2.2 million a year?
wakka12 wrote: » The sooner robots replace these tossers the better..their days are numbered. Id actually feel sorry for them if they werent holding the country for ransom every other yearWhat makes it even more infuritating is the fact that they are already highly overpaid for a job involving no skill what so ever
jaxxx wrote: » I wouldn't say no skill whatsoever but it's hardly a high stress job like nursing, emergency services, etc. As an unemployed person it really p*sses me off; train, the LUAS and Bus Eireann drivers. The lot of them are overpaid to begin with. I would kill to be on the money they're on, even before the whole kick up started with LUAS there a few years ago. Compare a bus driver for BE to one working for a private company. It's actually disgusting and in my opinion is nothing short of pure greed. Whatever good that trade unions were originally imagined to be, they've become what I can only describe as a cancer on this country (and I don't use that word easily as I had that f*ck*r many years ago)
Deleted User wrote: » I'd hazard a guess the average joe can swap out a train with a bus fairly easily these days, with the motorway network as it is, and not be put out by much.
Deleted User wrote: » If you're travelling any kind of a distance at all, to a big event, you'd get a private coach.
Deleted User wrote: » Either organised by yourself, or by private companies who see the train strike as a great opportunity to make some cash. Be no shortage of buses dropping directly at the event/s on in the city.
Deleted User wrote: » And you can be confident that if the rail strike lasts more than a day or two the public buses (BE/DB) will be off sick, too, with their sympathy strikes.
Deleted User wrote: » Private operators will be sitting around humming Shane McMahon's theme tune:
end of the road wrote: » not always. in fact, extra trains for special events are often hugely loaded they won't as they will have to come up with lots of capacity they don't have.
HandsomeBob wrote: » I don't blame them and targeting specific days is the right thing to do. Irish Rail have been treating both their staff and customers with contempt for a long time, essentially closing down some stations by no longer having them manned. Looked after instead by unreliable machines that will potentially lead to fines. God help you if you dare have the gall to assume someone on the other end will see logic and let you pay when you get off.
eeguy wrote: » Extra trains are hugely loaded as they don't put on enough extra trains or carriages, probably due to union crap.
eeguy wrote: » The BE strike showed that privates can get access to plenty of capacity if they want. Matthews doubled up to take the extra demand. Kavanaghs did the same.
eeguy wrote: » AFAIK Aircoach were flat out since the BE f*ckers were out intimidating the GoBe drivers.
eeguy wrote: » Again they'll make a killing when the strike hits.
eeguy wrote: » Let them strike. People will find a way and adapt they're constantly running themselves into uselessness.
eeguy wrote: » Even if privatisation is a bad idea, people will push for it over constant strikes.
Specialun wrote: » https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1020/913807-iarnrod-eireann-dispute/ One of the strike days is ire vs denmark...maximum impact one there Really sick of the overpaid and under productive public sector striking the second things dont go their way
The_Kew_Tour wrote: » Sure what's new with them. another whinge and get few days off for themselves, while people who actually want to work cant cause they wont. Thank Flip I don't have use Trains as my means of Transport.
Assetbacked wrote: » The Irish Rail twitter is getting more and more replies to its "service from X is delayed due to Y" which is indicative of how fed up people are of the service being provided. The excuse is that it's the time of year but that is a complete cop out; every single day for the past couple of weeks there have been train and dart delays. It's inexcusable in a supposed modern time to just allow trains to be delayed so regularly. We have now taken to leaving 30 minutes earlier in order to make sure that we can factor in delays. Luckily we've signed a lease for a city centre place as of the past few days so will gladly not have to use the train anymore but I sympathise with commuters and not with drivers and staff.
wakka12 wrote: » The sooner robots replace these tossers the better..their days are numbered. Id actually feel sorry for them if they werent holding the country for ransom every other year What makes it even more infuritating is the fact that they are already highly overpaid for a job involving no skill what so ever
Deleted User wrote: » In fairness, Bus drivers in Dublin city deserve the wage they get. A bus driver plodding along the motorway all day, a train driver, or a LUAS driver all have much easier jobs, in my opinion. I'm self employed at the moment, and things are going alright. Not gonna be rich anytime soon, but im happy enough (not earning as much as any of the above drivers). As soon as my self employment comes crashing down, which im sure it will eventually, i'll be applying for LUAS repeatedly. If I was in retail, on the dole, in an office, etc. or doing any other normal 9-5, i'd be applying to LUAS. Seems like the best job in the world. Minimal responsibility, lots to see each day to keep you entertained, and a great wage to go with it. In an absolute heartbeat I would be applying for that job.
baylah17 wrote: » Fair would be a pay cut until the company stops running multi million deficits. Fair would be the Gov as the only shareholder just let Irish Rail go onto liquidation and let it be privatised.
baylah17 wrote: » Fair would be put it into liquidation See how the lazy bums cope with 188 a week on the dole while new staff are hired on realistic terms and conditions
Nout123 wrote: » And you can pay at the stop you get off....
end of the road wrote: » the time of year being a major reason for delays is not a copout but a fact. at this time of year there is substancial leaf fall. when leaves go onto the line, they are crushed by the trains and turn into a greecy mulch. this in turn causes the wheels to have less grip on the tracks, meaning wheelslip and sliding. these are facts.
Assetbacked wrote: » While I accept that's a valid reason for the problem, I don't accept that it should result in delays.
Assetbacked wrote: » It is not a new problem however it seems as if Irish Rail just accept it on a year to year basis.
Assetbacked wrote: » In addition, there seems to be no plan to combat against it, for example, reducing the number of trees along the lines.
Assetbacked wrote: » The biggest reason for me being annoyed at them and the delays is that there are only two tracks to maintain in Dublin with the Dart; Two!
Assetbacked wrote: » Surely they could be more reactive to the problem given we only have two rail lines on the Dart? That is the biggest grievance and the reason I think the delays are inexcusable to the point where there will be zero sympathy and support for the striking workers.
Assetbacked wrote: » It's at least ten minutes delay per journey recently which is an extra hour and a half per week. This is not on.
end of the road wrote: » sorry but you will have to accept it. if a train is having trouble gripping the tracks and the wheels are slipping, meaning the train is struggling to actually move at all, never mind at low speed, the train is not going to run as normal and there will be delays. this is the case for the stock that has sanding equipment fitted, which still struggles. there isn't much that can be done about it. they could be more active in dealing with foliage near the railway and fit sand equipment to any bit of rolling stock that doesn't have it, but they can all only do so much. i would agree, and that needs to change. but that isn't going to remove the problem. it will lessen it however, but delays will still be a fact of life unfortunately. 2 tracks also means little riggel room when things go wrong. it's not maintenence that is the issue but not enough places for other trains to pass. extra tracking is needed, and users need to bring that up when candidates come knocking to the door at election time. if people are going to decide whether they have sympathy for striking workers based on a completely different issue, rather then the merrits of the dispute, then i'd suggest their support is not wanted, as they won't know what the strike is about so can't make any informed decisian. if one can't make an informed decisian, their decisian isn't valid. well it will have to be on. it's unfortunate but only so much can be done. more does need to be done but expecting these delays to be no more or be a lot less at this time of year is not a wish that can be granted. all railways suffer from this to a greater or lesser extent but suffer they do unfortunately.
Assetbacked wrote: » From the Irish Rail twitter, I note that they are currently utilising all available carriages at peak time and that new carriages won't appear before 2019.
Assetbacked wrote: » This, to me, means that the budget doesn't extend to dealing with the low-adhesion, leaf problem. As a result, we are told that such delays as a result of this problem are an unavoidable fact. I therefore do not accept these delays because the problem has a solution.
Assetbacked wrote: » Luckily I have taken matters into my own hands by moving into the city centre so I don't need to worry about it anymore but I still think it's inexcusable.
Specialun wrote: » https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1020/913807-iarnrod-eireann-dispute/ One of the strike days is ire vs denmark...maximum impact one there
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