Washington Commanders thread

MileHighGuy wrote: »

Yes, Vick is the closest analogue, but he didn't light it up in his NFL debut the same way, he was eased in and had plenty of growing pains. Griffin just came in and blew away a good Saints team.

Also, in Griffin's case, he was using his athleticism and putting himself in terrible situations, trying to beat players to the edge and getting blown up, thinking he could juke two and three defenders in the middle of the field and getting blindsided. He just didn't seem to have awareness on the field, exciting as hell, but he was no Cam Newton when it came to absorbing hits (Newton is now finding out that even he can't take that level of punishment week in, week out)

Newton is 6-5 and 250ish, Griffen is 6-2 and 215 ,

Regardless of their size you cant take those hits in the NFL. One of the reasons Vick was so electric, he was so hard to hit.

But it's all off the main stay of focus at the moment. Can we beat the Raiders at home this weekend?

Personally I think we can. As long as Reed gets over this chest contusion thing and suits up, if he doesnt it makes it more difficult. This one could turn into a shoot out.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

. Can we beat the Raiders at home this weekend?

Hopefully they can but there are two things you can be sure of in the Jay Gruden era.

1 they will come out flat in week 1, and
2 more often than not, they don’t turn up for prime time games (3-6)

jack presley wrote: »

Hopefully they can but there are two things you can be sure of in the Jay Gruden era.

1 they will come out flat in week 1, and
2 more often than not, they don’t turn up for prime time games (3-6)

I think the team is better this year, the Philly game they could easily have won, some big mistakes at the wrong time and a couple of horrible calls(both by refs and the offensive coordinator) were all that was the difference there.

The Raiders are good though.

MileHighGuy

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

But it's all off the main stay of focus at the moment. Can we beat the Raiders at home this weekend?

Personally I think we can. As long as Reed gets over this chest contusion thing and suits up, if he doesnt it makes it more difficult. This one could turn into a shoot out.

....from a Broncos fan, I'll be rooting for you guys!

I don't know what to make of the Redskins so far this year, they seem quite inconsistant, and don't seem to have hit their stride yet. The Raiders have picked up where they left off (before the Carr injury obv.) last year, and will be a good yardstick for where you are this year.

Just waking up and am pleasantly surprised. Looking forward to watching this game later.

Looks like they were dominant. Well played lads.

Raiders 0-11 on third downs. Wow.

jack presley wrote: »

Raiders 0-11 on third downs. Wow.

Just watched the condensed game there and ok, they did give up one 4th down but that was one dominant performance by the defence. The 2 scores the Raiders got both came after Redskins turnovers when they got the ball within the Redskins 20. Apart from that they did nothing.

And Chris Thompson was everywhere on the other side of the ball.

shamrock55

Looks like defence was on fire last night,I saw the first QTR,and they wereðŸ˜

Well , that was excellent. I hate Sunday night games though, am exhausted in work today. Terrific performance all round. Have to say I thought Cousins was exceptional last night and Thompson was just brilliant everywhere.

Amazing the difference when you've a defensive coordinator who knows what he's doing. Joe Barry and Jim Haslett held us back for years.

Morrison J wrote: »

Amazing the difference when you've a defensive coordinator who knows what he's doing. Joe Barry and Jim Haslett held us back for years.

Eh lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Last night was decent but the Raiders were shockingly bad.

The key for me though is that we're definitely moving in the right direction.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Morrison J wrote: »

Amazing the difference when you've a defensive coordinator who knows what he's doing. Joe Barry and Jim Haslett held us back for years.

Eh lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Last night was decent but the Raiders were shockingly bad.

The key for me though is that we're definitely moving in the right direction.

Is saying Joe Barry and Jim Haslett were completely inept getting ahead of myself? I have quite the evidence to back that up!

Morrison J wrote: »

Is saying Joe Barry and Jim Haslett were completely inept getting ahead of myself? I have quite the evidence to back that up!

Ah now I'm not saying you are wrong on their ineptitude, but I guess I am a Redskins fan, as are you and i just don't believe in our defence being "not inept" quite yet!

Jay Gruden is growing on me massively. Play calling spot on since he's taken over the role offensively. Actually running the ball with some consistency.

And then Gruden ****s up the clock management at the end..

Tough loss but we actually look pretty good. Penalties and injuries cost us big time. Pretty positive stuff.

Morrison J wrote: »

And then Gruden ****s up the clock management at the end..

Tough loss but we actually look pretty good. Penalties and injuries cost us big time. Pretty positive stuff.

Haven’t watch yet but just looking at the box score and reading the report, allowing that 37 yard pass after tying the game up with 47 seconds to go seemed to be the killer. Can’t be letting them drive into FG position in 30 seconds.

Having said that, the fact that they were still in the game on the road in KC has to be a positive. The penalties and Doctson’s dropped pass* the obvious negatives

I’d have taken a 2-2 start at the beginning of the season but ideally hope they drive on from this now.

Edit - *still haven’t seen it but listening to the post game, some are saying it wasn’t a drop, he just didn’t catch it.

Great to see the burgundy pants making an appearance too!

gerryfed

Great first half, but the penalties and injuries killed us in that 2nd.

Doctson has to complete that catch though, that's the game won

Reed was open too on that play, might have been the safer option but hard to lay any blame on Cousins, he put the ball where it needed to be for Doctson. Clock management was awful too, terrible time out called. Should have had that play dialed up already in case the short run on 2nd down didn't work.

2-2 after 4 tough games isn't bad though. Especially considering we were done by that terrible call against the Eagles at the end, and we took the unbeaten Chiefs to the last minute of the game.

Hopefully the defense can get healthy, good time for a bye! #HTTR

shamrock55

With doctsons catch,he had controll until he hit the ground when it then squirmed out,where's the problem?

gerryfed

shamrock55 wrote: »

With doctsons catch,he had controll until he hit the ground when it then squirmed out,where's the problem?

You have to maintain full control of the ball after you go to ground to complete the catch.

He should have turned his body more I guess so that the ball didn’t come lose after hitting the ground

Enjoyable day at FedEx. Great tailgate, exciting game but a game that should have been out of sight at half time. Crazy that the 49ers has a chance to win it in the end.

View from my seat last week (was great except when they snapped the ball from the left hash!)

I'd also recommend the 'HailBBQ' crew if you're ever at a game and looking to hook up with a tailgate.

Dropping like flies.

Mason Foster done for the year.

jack presley wrote: »

Dropping like flies.

Mason Foster done for the year.

3/5s of the OL not going today and now Niles Paul goes down heavily. Awful luck with injuries these past few weeks.

It had been a good half but failure to turn good drives into TDs (as usual) and having to take FG attempts has come back to bite them.

I can’t believe they’re going to a point down after the first 28 minutes of this game.

And now sicknote is gone to the sideline again.

I don't know what to make of that game last night. With all the players missing before the game even started and then them losing a couple of others in the first half, they shouldn't have had a chance to win that game and I was expecting a loss but they actually could have and maybe even should have won the game.

But as usual (and I'm like a scratched record here), the inability to turn good drives into TDs killed them again and a few stupid mistakes and they let another one slip away.

Gonna be tough now, Seattle on the road then Minnesota and NO, could be 3-7 in a few weeks.

gerryfed

jack presley wrote: »

I don't know what to make of that game last night. With all the players missing before the game even started and then them losing a couple of others in the first half, they shouldn't have had a chance to win that game and I was expecting a loss but they actually could have and maybe even should have won the game.

But as usual (and I'm like a scratched record here), the inability to turn good drives into TDs killed them again and a few stupid mistakes and they let another one slip away.

Gonna be tough now, Seattle on the road then Minnesota and NO, could be 3-7 in a few weeks.

I'd take an L this week if it gave us another bye week :P no team can compete with all those injuries, specially on the OLine.

The blocked field goal was huge for me. Then the weather kicked in and it made coming from behind even tougher. Passing game is so up and down, it's insane.

gerryfed wrote: »

I'd take an L this week if it gave us another bye week :P no team can compete with all those injuries, specially on the OLine.

The blocked field goal was huge for me. Then the weather kicked in and it made coming from behind even tougher. Passing game is so up and down, it's insane.

It’s all up and down unfortunately but when you’ve no OL you’re up against it from the get go. But yeah, that drive stalling and having to take the FG that was blocked changed the game completely.

I heard Kirk being interviewed yesterday and he was saying the first time he met one of the new backup linemen was in the dressing room before the game.

Sad to see Mack Brown leave as I don’t rate Rob Kelly and would have liked to see him get a shot.

One less team in the mix now for Cousins with the NE/SF trade but I still see him walking next season.