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Carna Co Galway

Anti Anorak

A very chilling story in yesterday's Irish Times which has gotten very little media attention, in June 1985 a 33 year old mother of 7 disappeared from a house party in Carna Co Galway, however she wasn't reported missing until 7 days later and no real investigation was made into her disappearance until this year. Smells like a cover up within an insular community.

irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/a-30-year-old-mystery-in-carna-holds-on-to-its-secrets-1.2420584

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KERSPLAT!

Can you fire up a link to the story?

Anti Anorak

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Can you fire up a link to the story?

irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/a-30-year-old-mystery-in-carna-holds-on-to-its-secrets-1.2420584

Buona Fortuna

Quite shocking

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/a-30-year-old-mystery-in-carna-holds-on-to-its-secrets-1.2420584

cnocbui

Not terribly hard to come up with a theory by reading between the lines of that account.

Slightly more difficult to understand the apparent lack of Gardai response. Of course if she had been French....

[Deleted User]

Lack of Gardaí response is pretty normal in these places.

Anti Anorak

Deleted User wrote: »

Lack of Gardaí response is pretty normal in these places.

If it was 1935 I could understand but 1985 wasn't that long ago.

Galwayguy35

There must have been no mention of it at all in the news at the time, I never remember hearing anything at all about it.

Although it doesn't say it straight out in the article what happened it's kinda obvious what is being hinted at.

Fleawuss

Anti Anorak wrote: »

If it was 1935 I could understand but 1985 wasn't that long ago.

It's a bit like dog years compared to human years. In parts of Ireland it's still 1735 let alone 1935.

pmasterson95

Story is well known in Galway.

john.han

Deleted User wrote: »

Lack of Gardaí response is pretty normal in these places.

Less to do with "these places" and more to do with the presence of two off duty Gardai at the party at which she was last seen I'd suggest.

Orange Pants

Rural Ireland was such a bleak place back then, The Ann Lovett tragedy would have been around then as well.

marklazarcovic

lived in galway last 40 years and never heard this story

somefeen

Carna is still a bit of wild place. The people that know what happened are probably still there.
Gairda station got petrol bombed there to a few years back. All the locals know who did it

Orange Pants

somefeen wrote: »

Carna is still a bit of wild place. The people that know what happened are probably still there.
Gairda station got petrol bombed there to a few years back. All the locals know who did it

A Sargents uniform went missing from the same station a few weeks before it was burned down.

William Murphy Smith

This cover-up will feature on Prime Time tonight @ 9.30pm. This first time it has ever been covered on television

Ipso

Tis a grand wee country.

etselbbuns

somefeen wrote: »

Carna is still a bit of wild place. The people that know what happened are probably still there.
Gairda station got petrol bombed there to a few years back. All the locals know who did it

Drugs packages regularly floating undetected from the magic sea to shore
http://connachttribune.ie/no-arrests-after-70-thousand-euro-worth-of-cocaine-is-washed-up-on-ballyconneely-beach-090/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ireland-used-as-drugs-gateway-to-britain-1581182.html

Rumpy Pumpy

Connies are extremely strange and superstitious people.

etselbbuns

Of course our current garda commissioner is from the area too ...

mahamageehad

Crazy story, my first time hearing it! That her sibling was told it was a "domestic affair" and the husband never referred to her again sounds ominous, but that could well just be the author injecting in some drama. I hope they find out what happened to her.

topcat72

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

Connies are extremely strange and superstitious people.

Amadán.

Arsemageddon

etselbbuns wrote: »

Drugs packages regularly floating undetected from the magic sea to shore
http://connachttribune.ie/no-arrests-after-70-thousand-euro-worth-of-cocaine-is-washed-up-on-ballyconneely-beach-090/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ireland-used-as-drugs-gateway-to-britain-1581182.html

The second story you linked to is
(a) 22 years old
(b) Refers to a drug seizure in Kilkenny
(c) Was caused by a Garda Intelligence operation that went wrong

What either story you have linked has to do with the presumed murder of the woman in Carna is beyond me.

[Deleted User]

mahamageehad wrote: »

Crazy story, my first time hearing it! That her sibling was told it was a "domestic affair" and the husband never referred to her again sounds ominous, but that could well just be the author injecting in some drama. I hope they find out what happened to her.

The never referring to her again thing is strange. I mean...how would they know? It can hardly be asserted as a fact in the way that article suggests.

mrsdewinter

This Prime Time makes for desperately sad viewing.

tomwaterford

Something seriously fishy going on there

branie2

Very sad story

Ipso

For those of us who can't see it, could someone give a run down.

mrsdewinter

Ipso wrote: »

For those of us who can't see it, could someone give a run down.

To follow on from the Irish Times' stories linked above, Prime Time interviewed the daughters and brother of the missing woman. One of the daughters spoke about the night her mother disappeared in 1985. There was a bit of a party in the house (really, just tea and sandwiches after the pub), and mother Barbara brought a female friend into the girls' room to 'show' her the new baby, a 9-month-old daughter. The older girls remember their mother cooing over the baby. Then, very early the following day, one of the daughters happened to get out of bed. She found her mother asleep on a settee and so she brought her a pillow and blanket, to make her more comfortable. That was the last time she saw her mother. It was desperately sad.
The daughters noted that their father did a great job bringing them up, and would get upset at Christmastime and around the time of his wife's birthday.
Primetime also noted that a man who lived nearby/in Connemara was later charged with a sex offence against a woman.
One garda who was interviewed (who had no involvement in the original case) said there was little point judging the 1985 investigation by today's standards. The programme noted that the 1980s investigation was conducted in English, and raised the possibility that, given the lingua franca in the area was Gaeilge, something may have been lost in translation.
I'd recommend looking it up on the Player, if you can.

Ipso

mrsdewinter wrote: »

To follow on from the Irish Times' stories linked above, Prime Time interviewed the daughters and brother of the missing woman. One of the daughters spoke about the night her mother disappeared in 1985. There was a bit of a party in the house (really, just tea and sandwiches after the pub), and mother Barbara brought a female friend into the girls' room to 'show' her the new baby, a 9-month-old daughter. The older girls remember their mother cooing over the baby. Then, very early the following day, one of the daughters happened to get out of bed. She found her mother asleep on a settee and so she brought her a pillow and blanket, to make her more comfortable. That was the last time she saw her mother. It was desperately sad.
The daughters noted that their father did a great job bringing them up, and would get upset at Christmastime and around the time of his wife's birthday.
Primetime also noted that a man who lived nearby/in Connemara was later charged with a sex offence against a woman.
One garda who was interviewed (who had no involvement in the original case) said there was little point judging the 1985 investigation by today's standards. The programme noted that the 1980s investigation was conducted in English, and raised the possibility that, given the lingua franca in the area was Gaeilge, something may have been lost in translation.
I'd recommend looking it up on the Player, if you can.

Thanks. I'll try to watch it. The bit I bolded seems odd.

mynamejeff

etselbbuns wrote: »

Of course our current garda commissioner is from the area too ...

do you think he might be a suspect ?