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Storm Ophelia - General Discussion/Local reports - See MOD NOTE Post #1

Samaris

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'Scuse me if I'm breaking any rules of Weather here with another thread, but didn't want to derail the main thread with too much chatter.

Guessing a lot of people (particularly us mostly-lurkers) might be in the same boat as me - not really sure what this all means on the ground in terms of preparation - and even if it's not too awful, I for one would prefer to be over-prepared rather than under-prepared! (At the moment, I don't feel that prepared at all!)

I'm living in a pretty exposed place for this particular set of indicators (on a narrow, south-west jutting peninsula off the Galway coast) and thus somewhat nervous about it. We're moving the bedroom to the sitting room as I've always been a bit dubious about the tall trees on that side of the house, but apart from that, sheltering the car (somehow) and ensuring there's as little potential debris as possible, I'm a bit at a loss. Water, candles might be an idea to get in.

Any more experienced people have ideas? Or what are others in the firing line doing?

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aidanodr

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/this-is-not-the-remnants-of-a-hurricane-this-is-a-hurricane-all-counties-may-have-red-weather-warning-issued-tonight-36228710.html

'This is not the remnants of a hurricane, this IS a hurricane' - All counties may have red weather warning issued tonight

- Very high winds, flooding and structural damage predicted over next 48 hours
- Forecaster Evelyn Cusack: Weather event almost unprecedented for this country
- Aer Lingus cancel over 50 flights
- UL, NUI Galway and GMIT all to close
- Schools told to close, and ESB on alert with winds of more than 130km/h expected Monday
- Army on standby over fears storm damage could paralyse communities
- Courts in red warning areas will not sit

My name is URL

ooompie5 wrote: »

They can... but they have to make up the day if its not a Red area as Dept Education compulsiory closure instruction applies only to Reds.

Thanks for clarifying.

What happens if amber areas are upgraded to red after school has started tomorrow... can the schools that open claim a day back?

SusieBlue

namloc1980 wrote: »

Work in Cork too and got a message from the boss saying opening as normal tomorrow. Can't believe it to be honest. Puts staff in a terrible predicament.

I got the same. Don't have a particularly long commute but will be relying on public transport to get me there, which I don't feel will be reliable.

Really don't want to take the risk but have colleagues with much longer commutes and will be mortified if I were to not go in and others further away made it in.

I'm in two minds as to what to do.

Widdershins

It's skipping Clare, Limerick and Kerry?

Lenny5

Could there be any unusual cloud formations, lightning, hail, or other weird events with this storm tmrow? Just wondering as its such an unusual event.

Autochange

crustybla wrote: »

How many little Irelands would fit into Australia? Bit different when that thing is barrelling towards an island of our size.

Who said the storms missed where i was living?

Im regretting writing it at all now. People having a go for no reason. Ophelia isnt my fault guys and im sorry im not panicking as much as the rest of some you.

But if im wrong then so be it. I hope I am

Cantona's Collars

__..__ wrote: »

Where do you check the alert status for your area?

Your local authority should have a sign up page for text alerts. Met.ie will have them too.

cherryghost

Lenny5 wrote: »

Could there be any unusual cloud formations, lightning, hail, or other weird events with this storm tmrow? Just wondering as its such an unusual event.

Yup, localized flooding is possible.
showforecast.cgi?lightningmap=yes&fcstfile=2017101706_201710141859_1_extendedforecast.xml

MidMan25

Autochange wrote: »

Who said the storms missed where i was living?

Im regretting writing it at all now. People having a go for no reason. Ophelia isnt my fault guys and im sorry im not panicking as much as the rest of some you.

But if im wrong then so be it. I hope I am

Who's panicking? There's a difference between panicking and having some respect for the force of nature that is going to hit us tomorrow.

Unearthly

Anyone in red would be bonkers to go to work. Corporate greed can take the day off

knipex

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That would require a decision one way or another and we have a Taoiseach too concerned about his public image and bending to lobbying as a result. You can be sure the discussions ARE taking place.. they just want "someone else" to make the call.

Even if they get it wrong and it's not as bad as expected (fingers crossed) then they claim credit for acting in the interests of public safety.. but that would upset the business folk.

I reckon they'll wait till 9pm and make a statement on the news.

So you want politicans doing weather forecasting events ???

Sweet Jeebus..

adox

StringerBell wrote: »

The wife works in the hospital here in Waterford, I am a bit worried about her going to work tomorrow. The getting there seems like it will be ok but I don't like the idea of her coming home in the late evening. How does she stand if she just does not go in? Is a red alert warning a valid excuse to not go in or will she be in trouble? Missing a days pay wouldn't be ideal but I would rather that then take unnecessary risks for her. She intends to go though as she hasn't heard anything from her employer saying its an option to stay home.

A red warning is purely a weather related warning based on predicted wind speeds. When a county or area is predicted to exceed a certain wind speed it’s automatically categorized as tha appropriate colored warning. Red weather warnings have been issued before in the country.

Any advice related to the colour warnings is from Met Eireann not from the government. There is no protocol for a red warning. Individual authorities may take decisions to close institutions, cancel services etc based on the warning but it doesn’t activate anything.

All schools in red warning areas are closing after official instruction from the minister for education earlier today, although many of those warnings were in place since yesterday.

The point I’m trying to make is these warnings aren’t warnings from government level or anything like that. They have been introduced in themlast few years by Met Eireann to distinguish levels of threatening winds, rain etc and that only.

Obviously a red level warning increases the chances of others deciding to close places but it doesn’t activate anything.

LordSutch

__..__ wrote: »

Where do you check the alert status for your area?

All will be revealed in about an hours time @ 9pm/ RTE NEWS.

Weather update, Red zone, Orange zone etc ....

mossie

WhiteRoses wrote: »

I got the same. Don't have a particularly long commute but will be relying on public transport to get me there, which I don't feel will be reliable.

Really don't want to take the risk but have colleagues with much longer commutes and will be mortified if I were to not go in and others further away made it in.

I'm in two minds as to what to do.

I have a 30km drive, half on narrow rural roads, probably get there OK but getting home might be a whole other story.

crashadder

Is there any possibility of this being blown out of proportion ? (No pun intended) As per everything else that happens in Ireland which isnt the norm

. I totally agree with you are saying. I just didnt know the phrase "blown out of proportion" or i would have said the same thing myself.

My name is URL

namloc1980 wrote: »

Work in Cork too and got a message from the boss saying opening as normal tomorrow. Can't believe it to be honest. Puts staff in a terrible predicament.

This is going to come back and bite a lot of employers and line managers. There are some unbelievably bad decisions being made.

Telling workers it's business as usual and intimating that they must turn up despite the warnings is leaving businesses wide open to legal action should anything happen to workers on the day.

mossie

crashadder wrote: »

. I totally agree with you are saying. I just didnt know the phrase "blown out of proportion" or i would have said the same thing myself.

I get the feeling that this is the real thing and even if not quite as bad as expected will still be a major storm.

_Kaiser_

knipex wrote: »

So you want politicans doing weather forecasting events ???

Sweet Jeebus..

I expect politicians - especially those in Government - to show LEADERSHIP yes, especially when it comes to unusual and potentially very damaging/threatening events like this.

Can't all be twitter posts and cool vids ya know! :rolleyes:

Autochange

MidMan25 wrote: »

Who's panicking? There's a difference between panicking and having some respect for the force of nature that is going to hit us tomorrow.

Yes panicking.Read the posts. Some people think it is an Armageddon end of days event.

knipex

__..__ wrote: »

I've been warned by text twice to turn up for work in Dublin. 2hr drive. Now I have to be in work or be fired. Because it will be fine when I am on my way in and lethal for me to drive home.
The decision should be taken out of mine and my employers hands so we can all be safe.

So you want a nanny State.. Literally a Nanny State ??

You will not be fired for not turning up for work in a red warning area.. If you are then your employer is a moron..

crustybla

Autochange wrote: »

Who said the storms missed where i was living?

Im regretting writing it at all now. People having a go for no reason. Ophelia isnt my fault guys and im sorry im not panicking as much as the rest of some you.

But if im wrong then so be it. I hope I am

No need for regrets, you're entitled to your opinion. We're not used to hurricanes in this part of the world is all. Wouldn't mind being in Australia now.:)

sdanseo

Just to be clear on the warnings as well, the red means Met.ie expect either or both of
Winds in excess of mean speed (10 minute sustained) 80km/h, 50mph, 43kts
Gusts in excess of 130km/h, 80mph, 69kts at any time.

They won't issue a red warning even if it is likely there will be 129km/h gusts. They are fixed criteria.

On the other hand, if there were 129km/h gusts nationwide tomorrow (and there probably will be) then it is still a very serious weather event.

Turtwig

Autochange wrote: »

Who said the storms missed where i was living?

Im regretting writing it at all now. People having a go for no reason. Ophelia isnt my fault guys and im sorry im not panicking as much as the rest of some you.

But if im wrong then so be it. I hope I am

not to be that guy but shouldn't we all, yourself included, be hoping you are right? As you are basically saying this won't be as severe as the models are indicating?

blanch152

Flying Fox wrote: »

The storm is coming after people will have trekked into work tomorrow morning, the issue is how are they supposed to get home if roads are closed due to fallen trees, buses and trains cancelled, etc. The responsible thing for the Govt to do is to issue a directive. You can argue all you like that adults should make their own decisions, but people have a real fear of getting into trouble at work if they don't come in. Ultimately people are concerned about their livelihoods, and are being put in a position where they have to weigh this up against their safety. Nothing childish about that.

The responsible thing is for people to act sensibly and make up their own mind.

If you are living in, working in, or commuting through a red alert area, during the times they are covered by the red alert, you have enough information to make decisions.

What trouble will people get for not coming into work? If you are there longer than a year, you are covered by the UDA and a dismissal for not working tomorrow won't stand. At worst, it will cost a day's pay, and honestly, if you don't believe your own safety is worth a day's pay, what can anyone do for you?

esposito

Where has this gone?? I cannot find it on IOS.
Anybody know? The app will be very useful tomorrow when i'm on the go

stevenup7002

Status red across the country now https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/919640927920062464

Samaris

Autochange wrote: »

Yes panicking.Read the posts. Some people think it is an Armageddon end of days event.

I've been reading them, and not seen anything of the sort. Worried people, yes. People looking for advice, yes. Panicking, not so much.

John Mason

right, i need to drive across the M50 tomorrow afternoon to get my mother to Chemo.

how bad is it going to be ? i am driving from J5 to Bray south in a very light car that usually gets shaken around at Kilternan on a normal day

goat2

when this thing hits us here on the south west coast, how long will it last for or how long will we feel the intensity of it, , right now feel this awful calm here,

Autochange

Turtwig wrote: »

not to be that guy but shouldn't we all, yourself included, be hoping you are right? As you are basically saying this won't be as severe as the models are indicating?

I hope i am right. I hope its not as bad a predicted.