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Storm Ophelia - General Discussion/Local reports - See MOD NOTE Post #1

Samaris

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'Scuse me if I'm breaking any rules of Weather here with another thread, but didn't want to derail the main thread with too much chatter.

Guessing a lot of people (particularly us mostly-lurkers) might be in the same boat as me - not really sure what this all means on the ground in terms of preparation - and even if it's not too awful, I for one would prefer to be over-prepared rather than under-prepared! (At the moment, I don't feel that prepared at all!)

I'm living in a pretty exposed place for this particular set of indicators (on a narrow, south-west jutting peninsula off the Galway coast) and thus somewhat nervous about it. We're moving the bedroom to the sitting room as I've always been a bit dubious about the tall trees on that side of the house, but apart from that, sheltering the car (somehow) and ensuring there's as little potential debris as possible, I'm a bit at a loss. Water, candles might be an idea to get in.

Any more experienced people have ideas? Or what are others in the firing line doing?

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spookwoman

Minister wrote: »

I am due to leave Waterford at eight am for meetings in Kilkenny, Carlow and then on to Wicklow for a meeting at eight and leave Wicklow for Waterford, via N11, intending to arrive back about 12.30 am. Should I chance or cancel? I am not a nervous driver in any way.

I'd cancel crosswinds on the motorway can be bad enough on a very windy day. If its going to hit the south east then the N11 will be fin on the way back

Wesser

I'm going to a wedding tomorrow!!!!!ðŸ€”ðŸ€”ðŸ€”

New Home

Is it just me, or does it look like a yo-yo with the string drawing it back up right through Ireland?

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-1.78,49.26,1500

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MJohnston wrote: »

Here are the most recent Wind Arrival Time estimates from the NHC - as always, times are displayed in AST, so you will need to add 5 hours to them to get Irish time:

Essentially boil the kettle as soon as you get up 8am circa, fill up a fair few flasks. You'll have enough tea for the rest of the day if power goes out, can always be poured into hot-water bottles if power still out by nightfall or used for cooking.

Now's a good time to top-up all those AA re-chargeable (nimh) batteries for torches, radios etc.

babybuilder

Minister wrote: »

I am due to leave Waterford at eight am for meetings in Kilkenny, Carlow and then on to Wicklow for a meeting at eight and leave Wicklow for Waterford, via N11, intending to arrive back about 12.30 am. Should I chance or cancel? I am not a nervous driver in any way.

STATUS RED - Severe Weather Warning - Take Action

The issue of RED level severe weather warnings should be a comparatively rare event and implies that recipients take action to protect themselves and/or their properties; this could be by moving their families out of the danger zone temporarily; by staying indoors; or by other specific actions aimed at mitigating the effects of the weather conditions.

Samaris

Minister wrote: »

I am due to leave Waterford at eight am for meetings in Kilkenny, Carlow and then on to Wicklow for a meeting at eight and leave Wicklow for Waterford, via N11, intending to arrive back about 12.30 am. Should I chance or cancel? I am not a nervous driver in any way.

For 8AM tomorrow, honestly, I would cancel unless it is absolutely imperative to be there. I don't know much about how exposed the motorway is, but I really wouldn't take unnecessary journeys tomorrow, particularly out of Waterford.

_Kaiser_

Minister wrote: »

I am due to leave Waterford at eight am for meetings in Kilkenny, Carlow and then on to Wicklow for a meeting at eight and leave Wicklow for Waterford, via N11, intending to arrive back about 12.30 am. Should I chance or cancel? I am not a nervous driver in any way.

I'd say cancel or do it by phone. Even if you're ok driving yourself, I'd expect the roads to be chaos.

Put it this way.. I normally work from home Mondays anyway, but if I didn't I would be tomorrow.

KathleenF

babybuilder wrote: »

Why just schools? What about people going to work?

I was referring to a post about schools specifically, forgot to quote it.

H3llR4iser

tinkerbell wrote: »

I'm trying to interpret these charts but having a bit of difficulty ... Is Dublin going to be hit in the afternoon or will it be bad in the morning also?

Looks like more in the afternoon; Theoretically won't be nearly as bad as the west coast/south, so it should actually be a case of a "very windy and rainy" situation here, as opposed to the real deal Galway/Cork/Wexford will probably get.

That said, we can probably bet on being stranded somewhere when we'll be trying to come home from work tomorrow as the public transport system will be affected by the winds, some trucks will likely overturn on the M50, a lot of people will elect to drive in the morning seeing the sh1tty weather and whatnot...

Rega

kala85 wrote: »

If schools close for the storm , do they have to make the day up later on in the year?

Not if they close for one day. If it's a sustained closure (like the snow in 2010) they're now required to make up the days

Minister

I am due to leave Waterford at eight am for meetings in Kilkenny, Carlow and then on to Wicklow for a meeting at eight and leave Wicklow for Waterford, via N11, intending to arrive back about 12.30 am. Should I chance or cancel? I am not a nervous driver in any way.

kona

Colby Tall Shootout wrote: »

They have to make up the lost time - not necessarily by opening another day. First they should look at cancelling tours/events/activities to prioritise classroom learning, cut house exam periods, keep 3rd/6th years to end of year. Any more than a one day closure would probably require opening during holidays. It is agreed that this would be during first two days of Feb midterm and/or first three days of Easter.

Cant be having that, eating into the 3 months off.

KathleenF

kala85 wrote: »

If schools close for the storm , do they have to make the day up later on in the year?

Not necessarily. More details here. https://www.education.ie/en/Circulars-and-Forms/Active-Circulars/cl0009_2017.pdf

BoJack Horseman

tinkerbell wrote: »

I'm trying to interpret these charts but having a bit of difficulty ... Is Dublin going to be hit in the afternoon or will it be bad in the morning also?

Morning should be ok, though obviously still quite windy.

By the late afternoon the winds will be extremely strong across the capital

see:
https://www.ventusky.com/?p=53.338;-6.099;9&l=gust&t=20171016/15

MJohnston

Here are the most recent Wind Arrival Time estimates from the NHC - as always, times are displayed in AST, so you will need to add 5 hours to them to get Irish time:

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kala85 wrote: »

If schools close for the storm , do they have to make the day up later on in the year?

They have to make up the lost time - not necessarily by opening another day. First they should look at cancelling tours/events/activities to prioritise classroom learning, cut house exam periods, keep 3rd/6th years to end of year. Any more than a one day closure would probably require opening during holidays. It is agreed that this would be during first two days of Feb midterm and/or first three days of Easter.

babybuilder

KathleenF wrote: »

Couldn't agree more. Red alert should equal closed school. Not the first time Dept want to shove responsibility to school instead of taking it on themselves. It would make everything much clearer for parents/staff/students and give more time for parents to prepare for childcare issues etc.

Why just schools? What about people going to work?

_Kaiser_

So how bad are we talking in the midlands (Laois/Kildare area). Some of the charts look ominous but hard to tell with the fast moving updates.

tinkerbell

I'm trying to interpret these charts but having a bit of difficulty ... Is Dublin going to be hit in the afternoon or will it be bad in the morning also?

KathleenF

sdanseo wrote: »

Dept of Education have a huge amount of responsibility here. Saw a very defensive tweet yesterday stating that there was "clear guidance" on their website.

Clicked the link which brought me to the homepage, had to do a search for weather, found the document, had to scroll down to find a paragraph which said schools should consider not opening in red areas but that the decision is down to each school.

That situation is an absolute recipe for disaster. You're leaving it up to thousands of individuals. There should be a government alert - either open or closed. No doubt should be left.

Couldn't agree more. Red alert should equal closed school. Not the first time Dept want to shove responsibility to school instead of taking it on themselves. It would make everything much clearer for parents/staff/students and give more time for parents to prepare for childcare issues etc.

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I cleared my back yard and dismantled the trampoline this morning. Bins are locked to the railings. I'm in Dublin

babybuilder

Lia_lia wrote: »

I’m at my Mothers house in Killarney and she’s debating whether or not to being in her garden furniture. It’s quite a lot of furtiture and there is not much space to store it. I’m saying yes, find somewhere to put it. Would you lot say bring it in?

I'd sell it and get some money for it. Otherwise it'll be gone tomorrow.
Seriously, jam it in the house. I assume it's wooden or maybe aluminium.

kala85

If schools close for the storm , do they have to make the day up later on in the year?

spookwoman

Lia_lia wrote: »

I’m at my Mothers house in Killarney and she’s debating whether or not to being in her garden furniture. It’s quite a lot of furtiture and there is not much space to store it. I’m saying yes, find somewhere to put it. Would you lot say bring it in?

Does she live in an estate with houses next door tell her she doesnt want to damage their property. I'd be bringing it in eve if i lived in the boonies

marno21

Lia_lia wrote: »

I’m at my Mothers house in Killarney and she’s debating whether or not to being in her garden furniture. It’s quite a lot of furtiture and there is not much space to store it. I’m saying yes, find somewhere to put it. Would you lot say bring it in?

Yes I would. I'll be doing the same (Killarney). No point in saying "I should've brought it in" on Tuesday

uck51js9zml2yt

jirafa wrote: »

They have just posted the they will close

marno21

I can see there being a rush to get fallen trees off the roads - plenty of firewood up for grabs

Samaris

I think a lot of it is just that Ireland does not expect these storms. We also seem to have a large proportion of the population who downplay any given warning as much as possible (or, if they were not too badly affected by past storms that did cause damage elsewhere, take their own experience as obviously being what everyone else should expect).

RTE etc are downplaying it, likely for fear of getting it wrong and a massive backlash. That is partly the fault of RTE for not taking a sturdier position based on the models and partly the fault of this ridiculous blase attitude of ordinary people who will be the first to demand heads roll if there's large-scale damage.

Lia_lia wrote: »

I’m at my Mothers house in Killarney and she’s debating whether or not to being in her garden furniture. It’s quite a lot of furtiture and there is not much space to store it. I’m saying yes, find somewhere to put it. Would you lot say bring it in?

Definitely. At best, it will likely be scattered or damaged. At worst, some of the smaller stuff could become flying debris at least as dangerous as slates.

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I’m at my Mothers house in Killarney and she’s debating whether or not to being in her garden furniture. It’s quite a lot of furtiture and there is not much space to store it. I’m saying yes, find somewhere to put it. Would you lot say bring it in?

PLL

Xenji wrote: »

GMIT Castlebar is officially closed tomorrow.

GMIT Galway had a crane across the road where the Garda HQ is being built. A little worried about that.