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Storm Ophelia - General Discussion/Local reports - See MOD NOTE Post #1

Samaris

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'Scuse me if I'm breaking any rules of Weather here with another thread, but didn't want to derail the main thread with too much chatter.

Guessing a lot of people (particularly us mostly-lurkers) might be in the same boat as me - not really sure what this all means on the ground in terms of preparation - and even if it's not too awful, I for one would prefer to be over-prepared rather than under-prepared! (At the moment, I don't feel that prepared at all!)

I'm living in a pretty exposed place for this particular set of indicators (on a narrow, south-west jutting peninsula off the Galway coast) and thus somewhat nervous about it. We're moving the bedroom to the sitting room as I've always been a bit dubious about the tall trees on that side of the house, but apart from that, sheltering the car (somehow) and ensuring there's as little potential debris as possible, I'm a bit at a loss. Water, candles might be an idea to get in.

Any more experienced people have ideas? Or what are others in the firing line doing?

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ninebeanrows

lawred2 wrote: »

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/14/europe/hurricane-ophelia/index.html

this video graphic shows the storm passing up the east coast... Is Dublin still a yellow warning?

Dublin is orange - potential to go red this evening/ tomorrow AM.

Cantona's Collars

Cloudio9 wrote: »

Yes they emphasised that and for people not to be out in the peak of the storm but if that's their advice surely they should be advising all schools to close.

We got a text yesterday evening that our school would monitor warnings, now status red for Waterford and Wexford.The roads to the school are tree lined,I for one would be very reticent to drive along them after playing dodgeball with boughs during Darwin.

lawred2

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/14/europe/hurricane-ophelia/index.html

this video graphic shows the storm passing up the east coast... Is Dublin still a yellow warning?

Samaris

fergus1001 wrote: »

How is it going to dispatch from a catagory 3 hurricane to a tropical storm this close to landfall it sounds like met is trying to safe face after its earlier downplay, and in doing so it could cost lives as people don't seem to be taking this seriously !

I think there's two concepts being confused there - hurricanes do degrade to "tropical storms" in the tropics, so that's to do with wind speeds and intensity, but there is a natural transition moving away from the equatorial regions up into the mid-lats of a hurricane becoming an extratropical storm, which is a technical description of its structure, not to do with its intensity.

It is expected to downgrade in intensity as well to Cat 1 or so before it hits land (and maybe lower - hopefully!), but the technical terms are kinda unrelated as I understand it.

floorpie

Calina wrote: »

Weather predictions tend to be based on experience and data from previous similar events. The last one was 1961. The message is fairly simple, we have a major weather event approaching but we cannot be certain about the detail of how it will behave.

And we are lucky. 1961 was found by an aircraft. Now we can at least track these most of the way.

That makes sense.

It looks to me like they're underplaying it to save face in the event that it's not severe. But given that the worst-case outcome is a class of weather which endangers lives, surely it's better to err on the side of caution and just make a firm statement/prediction?

Harry Palmr

BillyBobBS wrote: »

I'm guessing we'll have the usual few twits out on harbours and piers taking pics etc... Should be arrested and thrown in the slammer if caught. If they go in they put the emergency services lives at risk attempting to save them.

if they end up in the briny they should be left to drown.

alroley

Got notification from school in Limerick City that they're open tomorrow

peasant

The government should just cancel the October bank holiday Monday and have it tomorrow instead

BillyBobBS

I'm guessing we'll have the usual few twits out on harbours and piers taking pics etc... Should be arrested and thrown in the slammer if caught. If they go in they put the emergency services lives at risk attempting to save them.

uck51js9zml2yt

Cloudio9 wrote: »

Yes they emphasised that and for people not to be out in the peak of the storm but if that's their advice surely they should be advising all schools to close.

I've just sent my son's principal a text advising same. My kids are staying home in Dublin.

fergus1001

How is it going to dispatch from a catagory 3 hurricane to a tropical storm this close to landfall it sounds like met is trying to safe face after its earlier downplay, and in doing so it could cost lives as people don't seem to be taking this seriously !

irish1967

https://www.pscp.tv/w/bLHwBDU1MDk0NDV8MVJER2xuRW52TGx4TLiGwQCjC044sJkECz0nY6pLAAGtvWkgWjHkGWUNU3vv

Emergency Management Press Briefing

Cloudio9

Weathercheck wrote: »

I believe the main message the media need to be told to convey is that this is a Countrywide event, not just restricted to the south and west. This systems goes up through the country with a very tight pressure gradient - all regions can expect damaging wind gusts.

Yes they emphasised that and for people not to be out in the peak of the storm but if that's their advice surely they should be advising all schools to close.

_Whimsical_

Samaris wrote: »

Anyone know if one can see the RTE weather forecasts online anywhere? I don't have access to TV.

You can watch live rte1 on rte player via the Pc or the phone apps. I'm sure they're there to watch later too.

MJohnston

dropzone wrote: »

Met Eireann should really update their forecast graphics. Not much information and hard to read compared to graphics used in the UK, USA and online.

Same problem with a lot of the main weather apps people will use. For example the Weather app built into iOS is utterly useless, tomorrow it shows a raincloud icon and the max/min temps, and there are no warnings or alerts in it. I fear a lot of people will be using those kinds of apps.

Cloudio9

Joan Blackburn actually said at the press conference that it was unprecedented for them to issue a red warning 48 hours in advance. Previously always <24 hours.

ninebeanrows

I believe the main message the media need to be told to convey is that this is a Countrywide event, not just restricted to the south and west. This systems goes up through the country with a very tight pressure gradient - all regions can expect damaging wind gusts.

0byme75341jo28

I can't understand why schools wouldn't be shut. It's a day off which will have little to no impact in the scheme of things when compared to the risks associated with having people travelling in a red warning area.

If anything it would make most sense to just shut all schools and be done with it.

uck51js9zml2yt

squarecircles wrote: »

I think Joanna's serious tone has really got the point across.

Let's hope so.
We can be sure to see the 6 news tomorrow laden with swimmers/ surfers and high board jumpers!

Mr E

Limerick expected to be upgraded to Red tonight.

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/276208/ophelia-experts-advise-to-prepareto-protect-lives-as-cycloneapproaches-limerick.html

(Sorry if already posted)

Harry Palmr

Missed the forecast as was watching the NECC feed, very crisp and lucid. I think I'll just go out and put another slab on the shed roof!

Calina

floorpie wrote: »

Why are they so scared to make firm statements in this press conference. The weather "forecaster" has verbatim said that she can't make predictions about what will happen, is that not her job? Absolutely bizarre.

Weather predictions tend to be based on experience and data from previous similar events. The last one was 1961. The message is fairly simple, we have a major weather event approaching but we cannot be certain about the detail of how it will behave.

And we are lucky. 1961 was found by an aircraft. Now we can at least track these most of the way.

dropzone

Met Eireann should really update their forecast graphics. Not much information and hard to read compared to graphics used in the UK, USA and online.

jasper100

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

It's a bit odd that Status Red is given to Western Counties when they are now saying the coastal counties further East are to get the stronger winds.This could catch people out as they think "ah sure,the worst will be in the West".

Obviously the warnings will be upgraded and downgraded when necessary.

This is the problem with people demanding warnings 3 days ago.

It's possible that places placed on red yesterday will now have not a lot of wind.

It's really only in the final 24 hours or so that actual accurate specific county by county warnings can be made.

Samaris

Anyone know if one can see the RTE weather forecasts online anywhere? I don't have access to TV.

fraxinus1

200motels wrote: »

Waterford and Wexford upgraded to red warning status.

Met eireann app doesn't have wexford or Waterford under red

squarecircles

I think Joanna's serious tone has really got the point across.

MJohnston

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Good point on the weatherabout this not being a tail end of a hurricane. That's the sense I'm getting that people are assuming this will be the same.

SO many people use that “tail end of a Hurricane” phrase without actually knowing what they’re meaning. This is not the tail end of anything, this isn’t even what you could call the remnants of a hurricane. Ophelia is still, right now, a category 2 hurricane, and less than 24 hours until it reaches the Irish coast. It will almost certainly transition to extra-tropical, but ultimately that has more to do with it’s structure than the energy it will possess when it strikes Ireland.

munsterlegend

pad199207 wrote: »

Well I must say an absolutely stunning forecast from Joanna there on the 1pm news.

Getting the message through very clear.

Kudos to her.

Yeah she was very clear on the dangerous situation. I wish a lot of my neighbours would start preparing.

Daz_

I totally agree! How can this be ?

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

It's a bit odd that Status Red is given to Western Counties when they are now saying the coastal counties further East are to get the stronger winds.This could catch people out as they think "ah sure,the worst will be in the West".